THIS HAS GOT TO STOP

DEADLYDEEDZ·Nov 21, 2015·56 votes·3,567 views

I was just in a game where a player was spamming, trolling and feeding AND being very toxic. My team reported him but he accused me and others of doing the same thing he was doing. In turn he told the other team during game that I was the one who was toxic and the other team all reported me. I DID NOTHING WORNG AND GOT A WARNING. THIS IS NUTTS. ITS RUINGING THIS GAME. Please stop giving the other team the right to vote on opposing team when they have no clue what is being said in chat. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.

51 Comments

o Maui oNov 21, 201525 votes

If you haven't done anything wrong, you can relax. Reports are always verified before a punishment is handed down. They are not verified for warnings--warnings are triggered purely by having a high number of reports in your recent matches (this takes more than one game, by the way). It's mostly a heads up that you're being reported more than usual; this is designed to give players who have been losing their cool a signal to take it easy for a while. False reports can trigger a warning but they won't trigger a punishment.

KüramaNov 21, 20154 votes

This.

Dan AbnormalNov 22, 20152 votes

also your first report will trigger a warning so don't worry.

Clown ApocalypseNov 21, 201524 votes

I played a game a day or two ago where I muted all as soon as the game started because of troll picks and raging in champ select. One of those situations I probably should have dodged regardless of the 30 minute timer but said screw it because I think it was the last game I was playing for the night. I literally never said a word in chat. Nothing. All I did was ping all game. The end of the game comes and I was support with a good score and everyone else had gotten stomped. Post game lobby all I see is "report nunu". Now of course normally this wouldn't mean shit. But a few seconds later I get a warning for verbal abuse. They can't make a system that can tell when you say nothing?

I report people for racist statements and wishing diseases and terrorism upon people all the time and never even get a message saying someone was punished. I play a game and say absolutely nothing and get warnings. IDk wtf to think about their system. Supposedly it's automated and understands words so when someone types n*gger in chat it should be a pretty open and shut case if I report them. Just like it should be a pretty open and shut case about false reports if I never say a word. Funny thing is I made a thread about this that day and got downvoted to shit.

Nowhere ManNov 22, 20157 votes

I don't think it honestly matters, it was an automated warning because people were reporting you, but you aren't getting a penalty, just a spooky pop up that does nothing. Also the last thing we need is for them to put more focus on banning people who call other people "mean names" that shit's stupid, this is a video game. If you can't handle it get rid of internet and never leave your house again.

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20152 votes

Oh I can handle it, but if I cant talk shit back to them without fear of being reported, I'm reporting EVERYTHING I thinks reportable because I know other people are just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks. Back when I just used to simply rage at people doing stupid shit and afk in games that were 4 vs 5 I used to get banned ALL the time. When in Rome you do as the Romans do. I'm black and I bet if I started saying n*gger in chat all the time I'd get banned even though I'm not racist at all. The shit I've been banned for doesn't hold a candle to the shit I report that goes unnoticed. Havent been banned at all this season because I mute people as soon as they start running their mouths and report em. Shit, sometimes I just /mute all just for the hell of it.

As far as never leaving the house again......is that some sort of jab? You'd probably lock your car doors if I pulled into the parking spot next to you. lol. What you imagine on the other end of this keyboard and reality are probably complete opposites. I report people because it's my only source of retribution. In a perfect world I'd be able to instantly trace their i.p. addresses, get on a plane, and feed them their keyboard. Unfortunately that's against numerous state, local , federal, and international laws currently.

SnowbrgerNov 22, 20155 votes

get a counselor

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20153 votes

Don't need counseling. IRL call me or any other grown able bodied black man a n*gger to their face and see how that works out for you. Not saying YOU would but just hypothetically. It wouldn't work out so well. The only reason it works out well for people in league is because they know the person they are talking shit to isn't going to go through the time or effort to make them see the error of their ways. If you think that makes me crazy to daydream about smacking a racist troll in the mouth with his keyboard one good time, so be it. I take the high road & report, and they still do nothing. Let me wish man.

SnowbrgerMay 26, 20161 votes

If they are racist report them, but if it makes you think about violence all the time then perhaps you are not solving the issue. Racism and bullying are alarming and angering, but to think about viciously harming someone is psychopathic.

Nowhere ManNov 22, 20152 votes

I can honestly say I don't know what you are getting at, but I can tell you are a HUGE bad ass.

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20151 votes

Nothing to do with being a bad ass. I just know half the people who spout racist shit and say they hope your mother gets raped and shit like that are pathetic little douchebags who probably get picked on all the time in real life. I don't think it would take too tough a person to slap them around. I'm just positive the only reason they say the things they say is because they know no one is coming to look for them. If you'd let some guy just stand directly in front of you and say all kinds of crazy shit to you like threaten family members etc., and you don't get at least an urge to put your hands on them....you've been thoroughly emasculated.

PrefixNov 22, 20151 votes

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Oh I can handle it, but if I cant talk shit to them without fear of being reported, I'm reporting EVERYTHING. Back when I just used to simply rage at people doing stupid shit and afk in games that were 4 vs 5 I used to get banned ALL the time. When in Rome you do as the Romans do. I'm black and I bet if I started saying n*gger in chat all the time I'd get banned even though I'm not racist at all. The shit I've been banned for doesn't hold a candle to the shit I report that goes unnoticed. Havent been banned at all this season because I mute people as soon as they start running their mouths and report em. Shit, sometimes I just /mute all just for the hell of it.

As far as never leaving the house again......is that some sort of jab? You'd probably lock your car doors if I pulled into the parking spot next to you. lol. What you imagine on the other end of this keyboard and reality are probably complete opposites. I report people because it's my only source of retribution. In a perfect world I'd be able to instantly trace their i.p. addresses, get on a plane, and feed them their keyboard. Unfortunately that's against numerous state, local , federal, and international laws currently.

I lost ranked rewards because of this. I even just stopped typing in chat recently because I thought hey I was banned in early August I can still get rewards but nope its based on ban end time. I tried my best to improve and the only way I could do this was by no longer using chat at all but nope no rewards for me because my 1 ban was in august yet people on my friends list banned 8 times got rewards because they didn't get banned in august.

Photos of GhostsNov 22, 20151 votes

Aaaaaaaaaand you only get the "good job" popup if you were the LAST one reporting the guy who got banned.

Photos of GhostsNov 22, 20153 votes

Warnings are just warnings. They're given to anyone that gets reported more than usual so that you can reflect on your actions. If you did nothing, fear nothing. And stop making a mess about it. Just cheer because they'll get banned for abusing the report function.

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20151 votes

I get the fact that supposedly it does nothing. It's still super lame tho.

Photos of GhostsNov 22, 20152 votes

Not "supposedly". It can't "do" anythng because it is the end of its own process. Punishment is a distinct process with distinct triggers. And while the wording is lame, it's perfectly understendable for Riot to do ths kind of prehemptive warnings that are much more easily triggered than actual punishments.

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20151 votes

That is quite literally the dumbest shit I have ever heard. The shit I'm reporting people for should trigger automatic ACTUAL punishments. It's not like a guy said gg ez, or was just blaming people for mistakes all game. We're talking racism, wishing terrorism, etc on people and I checked their histories for a week afterwards and they were still playing. If the system is supposedly automated and understands chat a little bit....it should understand me not saying a word. The people programming these systems aren't doing so great a job if their automated system warns you when you say nothing, yet the same system can completely ignore when people spam racist and toxic things to you in chat. Even though all of the words being typed should be in its system to be flagged anyways and they supposedly have a zero tolerance policy that gives immediate 2 week bans for it. It's okay. This season I'm recording games, screenshottin, writing down names, and shaming the fuck out of people on youtube. They don't wanna ban people so be it. I'll just start keeping a list of these people and the things they did in an archive somewhere for all to see that way when people start quoting lytes bullshit statistics about how rare it is, I can show you the REAL stats.

o Maui oNov 22, 20151 votes

The system that investigates chat logs is not involved with warnings.

RisenDarkKnightNov 23, 20151 votes

You actually can't get banned for abusing the report function. All that happens is your reports become meaningless.

Photos of GhostsNov 23, 20152 votes

Not normally, but there are banwaves for report abusers.

TaarkiNov 21, 20156 votes

To be honest, we just need the tribunal back, because then if you got reported by them all, an actual person could look at the chat log and realize that you did nothing wrong. Then you would not get a warning or a ban.

VerxintNov 22, 20156 votes

They should make this clearer - These warnings are an automatic message given when you get reported by more than one person in game. They occur before the reports have been passed into the system.

Getting one of these messages is basically meaningless if you haven't behaved in a punishable way. You could probably have 4 of your friends report you after a game as a joke and you'd get one.

Ada WongNov 21, 20155 votes

Agreed its annoying when the enemy team can vote, the problem is others asking others to report a user, if a player doesn't type in /All Chat which I keep disabled all the time then the enemy team should not be able to report for offensive language or verbal abuse but rather only AFK, or Intentional Feeding which would sort out a lot of false reports easier as well.

ModUlanopoNov 22, 20153 votes

The number of reports you receive for a single match is irrelevant, as all it does is flag the match for review. This is so that people cannot gang up with reports.

TransgressorNov 22, 20154 votes

Nonono it doesn't work like that.

First you gotta guilt trip everyone. Then you have to instigate a witch hunt. To do that you could always victimize yourself by highlighting a condition of yours into getting pitty from everyone else, after all the internet loves crusades. Put the cherry on top of the cake by "mistakenly" naming and shaming allthough it's very clearly against the rules, then hastely sensoring yourself to prove your good intentions.

Lastly, don't forget to have your friends downvote every single opinion that doesn't agree with your hate bandwagon. Oddly apparent by the fact that those posts are at -1 or -2, strangely coincidental considering how "unpopular" they might be. Finish your statements with "god bless" and "thanks for your time" every-single-post so that you highlight what a good samaritan you are.

ULTRA RAMOOSENov 22, 20151 votes

This wins the internets!

DEADLYDEEDZNov 21, 20153 votes

Yes its especially concerning when 2 people come in to a game together and are RL friends and do the same thing. They act toxic all game and get the other team which has no clue whats being said in chat to report you. This whole game is becoming nuttz.

shalexadeNov 22, 20151 votes

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Yes its especially concerning when 2 people come in to a game together and are RL friends and do the same thing. They act toxic all game and get the other team which has no clue whats being said in chat to report you. This whole game is becoming nuttz.

If the other team said in all chat "Report ADC for whatever reason" - and you had no reason to report them.

Would you report them?

Most people don't unless you give them a reason to.

GreydoxNov 22, 20153 votes

Yeah it's getting ridiculous. I had two games tonight where a toxic duo queue convinced the other team that I was being racist when I barely said anything all game and nothing even close to being able to be interpreted as racist.

Starfish HNov 22, 20152 votes

We need the tribunal to be back and be able to look through chat logs. I'm pretty sure it's against the Summoner's Code to tell the other enemy team to report someone as the enemy team can't see a way to believe you or not believe the accuser. With Tribunal Riot can detect people like this and punish them even more.

TransgressorNov 22, 20151 votes

Yeah, this totes works.

Fuck this shit, I remember the old tribunal where every immature self-righteous fuckboy and their mothers would vote punishment to people who burst into rage for trolled games.

Even the mildest of shit like "why do you ruin our games you fucking asshole?!" when there are players feeding their asses off. No, fuck that shit, I'm not punishing victims of griefing and trolling because hypocrits are allowed to roam free and ruin games.

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20151 votes

They get punished now anyways. I get reported when I don't say a word. God forbid I ask someone what their malfunction is or tell them to stop being stupid. They punish GG EZ. Just let that sink in.

TransgressorNov 22, 20151 votes

To be fair "GG EZ" or any forms of "easy game" for that matter, fucking infuriates me.

I'd rather be called "hahahaha you fucking bronze loser" than read "ggez".

I'm a weird person.

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20151 votes

Lol to each his own. GG EZ doesn't bother me at all. Like not even the least bit. You have to be truly salty about losing to find that offensive. I'm in the postgame lobby for all of like a minute and my all chat is off in game. My ego can handle a little boasting on behalf of the victors for that small amount of time. Besides, if it was EZ it probably wasn't even me that made it that way, or at least that's what I tell myself....lol.

LeoielNov 22, 20152 votes

This game is a joke. Ive never seen any other game that preaches such a friendly environment, "Summoner's Code" lel, and has the worst player base in any online game. BF4, CS: GO, GTA V, any other game is so much more enjoyable because you don't have to put up with troll players. The Tribunal is utterly worthless, offenders are never punished and are never given a reason to change their ways. 3/5 of my placement games have had 2 or more trolls that Im sure have been a toxic plague on the game forever. Its so damn prevalent. I just have to wait every single game until someone dies once and flies off the handle, blaming everyone else but themselves and either afks, trolls, or just berates the team for their shortcomings. Congratulations, Riot, for fostering online gaming's worst community hands down.

KaisadiIIaNov 22, 20152 votes

The warning of "Seem like you are a bit salty, chill out" is not a real warning. If you get reported twice in a quick sucession or something like that you'll get it, but that is an automatic process aimed to reduce toxicity in a game by warning people beforehand. It makes sense because most times if you get reported multiple times you are probably doing something wrong, and it's better a warning in time than a chat restriction later, but there will always be cases where someone reports you for no reason at all and you get that meaningless warning.

Photos of GhostsNov 22, 20152 votes

Calm the fuck down. A warning just tells you that you've been reported more than usual. And it's true, you've been reported more than usual. Nothing else will happen.

Aloexx RatfootNov 21, 20151 votes

If you got a warning then riot determined that you did do something toxic...

Being reported doesnt do anything if you did nothing to deserve a punishment

TransgressorNov 22, 20152 votes

OOOOOOOOOOOR the system is 100% automated and it's programmed to issue a warning you've been reported for abuse even if you've typed literally nothing.

It doesn't need to check chat logs to give you a WARNING.

Warning=/=Punishment.

Ignorance is bliss.

Photos of GhostsNov 22, 20152 votes

Only if you're reported more than average. If your average is 2 reports per game, you won't get a warning for being reported by 2 people in one game. If your average is 0.03, you will.

TwoDNov 22, 20151 votes

[zombie-nunu-tears]

EboksbaNov 22, 20151 votes

Long story short: The report system operates with a combination of severity of report, confirmation that the reported things happened, and with the number or consistency of their report. The chat system verifies if you said bad things, the feeding is scanned in the report, and the history is referenced of all accounts. A person who spams reports have their every report hit in severity and sometimes ignored.

So, in a nutshell, you would never have received a warning if you weren't consistently being reported. To be brutally honest, sometimes the best thing to is disable chat and rely on pinging.

Photos of GhostsNov 22, 20151 votes

Actually, the warning is pre-any kind of verifcation and is based on a peak of reprts, not consistent reporting.

TedBearSurvivalNov 22, 20151 votes

This happened before. I was learning how to jungle rengar so I called jungle. Thenplayer said please let him jungle because he played support for his past few matches. But everyone called their roles 10 seconds ago. Then he locked in jungle yi, and when the match started, he told the enemy team he didn't know why there are two junglers and said to report me. I didn't say anything but our twitch was defending me, so I decided to help him with bot lane because there was no support. As I said, I was still learning rengar in the jungle so master yi got a better score than I have. I later checked his match history and for the past two days he played Darius and Draven.

RyzeReworkNov 22, 20151 votes

it doesnt matter riot will see whose wrong and whose right JUSTICE Garen

NotClarkolasNov 22, 20151 votes

This literally happens to me every game. I dont even use chat and my team reports me for split-pushing instead of teamfighting. Now i have chat restrict for 35 games becasue ONCE i talked back to a toxic teammate.

ULTRA RAMOOSENov 22, 20151 votes

THIS THREAD IS IN THE WRONG SECTION, IT BELONGS IN: Player Behavior & Moderation.

ShitsurenNov 22, 20151 votes

Yeah kinda same situation today i got support who was afk entire game in teambuilder matchmaking its was 4v5 then other teams yasuo went afk it was 4v4 we thot we might have a chance but NOOO our midlaner started trolling becosue reasons of hers in the end when i asked to report those 3 lb started spitting nonsence that i was the one who trolled and that i was very toxic and i was 6/1 like WTF! During season ppl were nice and at the start of preseason aswell but before end of the season all toxic players came back to get to their ranks ruining casuals games becosue they haven't played in a season or now decent players don't play us much becouse they got their ranks and waits for new season leaving all of toxic waste to get mashed up un a singe match I mean even winning team asks you now to report one of them becouse they are toxic or calling each other noobs etc. this is come BS right now i hope at the start of new season this will stop or atleast minimize.

Clown ApocalypseNov 22, 20151 votes

Yeah i'm just hoping it gets better when people can at least get the role they want. Somehow I still expect the usual douchebaggery.

WarchfGingerNov 23, 20151 votes

/all chat
feeding
afk

That's 3 reasons why that is even an option. This affects everyone's game experience. Yes, you may be innocent, but it's kinda not possible to remove this ability because 75% of the community uses that ability wisely. . . . Here is an example of a ranked game i played and got both demoted to Silver 5 and reported by the wrong-doer:

Amumu AP jg game, Janna support, and i don't remember the other champions Our ults rivaled each others, and i accept at times that a cancellation of my snare will happen, but we were under a full tower with all of our members above 75% health, and the enemies all 5 dove to the center of the tower, each below 50% health. We had cc to keep them in tower range, so I ulted. Before the tower could go off and shoot, Janna ulted. Everyone made it out alive. My other team members just said "bad luck am" and "#latereactions" or something like that, but the support blamed me for not snaring them, because that makes sense [zombie-brand-mindblown] Anyway, the rest of the game, she was way to salty in chat. If i ulted, she ulted. She told us after the match that was her only goal in the game anymore. She started talking in /all chat saying we were all roasting her for sucking, that it was "typical support abuse" None of us had said anything. My teammates all had my back in /all chat, and I considered befriending each of them for that. Obviously, we lost, but we would have easily won if she had tried. . . . The point is, there will always be players that will do that. There are mean people, and that is all they do in the League community. I wish there was something we could do other than reporting them, but they probably all have 12 smurfs to continuously do this.