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My first ban after starting up League of Legends after a few months was a permaban.

Dill The Pickle··2 votes·570 views

I came back to League after a few months and was playing with some friends, saying some toxic things here and there because we had a full queue so nobody would get offended. They were talking in voice chat so it kind of seemed like I was talking to myself. I did use the N word about 2-3 times and f@g maybe once, along with other curse words like fuk and sht. After about 3 games, I was notified of a 14 day ban because of my recent behavior. I was a bit mad because it was so sudden, but I didn't really mind because looking back it seemed well deserved for my use of racial slurs. I relogged into League just incase and found that I had actually been permabanned somehow, which made no sense because it just said I had a 14 day ban a few minutes before. I found out later that my friends jokingly reported me because I stole their pentakill, and that most likely caused the ban. I already sent a support ticket to see if I could get my account back, but I'd just like to know if it's actually possible to recover my account because some people say Riot will never un-permaban someone. I've played League a few years on my account and I've never been banned for more than a week, and that was a couple years ago. I'd completely understood if I can't get my account back, but I've spent 100 bucks over the years and it would suck to lose it all. Thanks!

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Imperial Pandaa3 votes

In the case of this, they may revert it back to a 14 day ban. I'm going to give two instances when something similar happened.

  1. Someone hit 14 then perma'd in one game. Same circumstance where game 1 triggered a 14 day ban but player was already in a new game. The new game triggers a perma. Riot did revert it back to a 14 day that way the player could have a chance to reform from that ban.

  2. A group of friends 'jokingly' reported their buddy and got him banned. Riot Tantram made a deal that everyone on hsi team who reported him for that game had to come on the forum and post to the topic requesting their report to be rescinded. They did and Riot undid the ban.

Dill The Pickle1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6yLlBJuO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-24T00:55:11.484+0000)

In the case of this, they may revert it back to a 14 day ban. I'm going to give two instances when something similar happened.

  1. Someone hit 14 then perma'd in one game. Same circumstance where game 1 triggered a 14 day ban but player was already in a new game. The new game triggers a perma. Riot did revert it back to a 14 day that way the player could have a chance to reform from that ban.

  2. A group of friends 'jokingly' reported their buddy and got him banned. Riot Tantram made a deal that everyone on hsi team who reported him for that game had to come on the forum and post to the topic requesting their report to be rescinded. They did and Riot undid the ban.

Thanks for the info, maybe I have a chance after all. Either way, if I get unbanned I'm changing the way I act, but damn, I guess I have to start talking with friends on Discord/TS from now on.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

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Thanks for the info, maybe I have a chance after all. Either way, if I get unbanned I'm changing the way I act, but damn, I guess I have to start talking with friends on Discord/TS from now on.

Happy to help. Hopefully Tantram or another Red will see this and look into it. That is a good call. If you want to screw around with friends and say frowned upon things, voice is better. I wish the best for you dude or dudette.

Dill The Pickle1 votes

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Happy to help. Hopefully Tantram or another Red will see this and look into it. That is a good call. If you want to screw around with friends and say frowned upon things, voice is better. I wish the best for you dude or dudette.

Yeah, the League of Legends banning system doesn't really mess around, haha. Dude btw, and ty again!

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

Here's the thing about Riot never overturning permabans. They state that they do not overturn bans issued by the Instant Feedback System; the quote below is taken directly from the Support page article "My Account is Suspended."

CAN MY SUSPENSION BE REMOVED? Suspensions due to the Instant Feedback System will not be lifted or shortened under any circumstance.

However, as Imperial Pandaa has mentioned, there are rare cases where Riot has been willing to revert a permaban back down to a 14 day suspension if the player was not given the chance to actually serve that punishment and show reform. One of the key factors in the reporting system is that players are reported when they are actively causing a negative game experience, whether that is through toxicity, trolling, feeding, cheating or various other methods. In order for a player to be punished by the Instant Feedback System, they have to be 1. reported for creating the negative experience and 2. have the report verified by something within the logs. In your case, the logs would verify that the Terms of Use were violated, but the reports only came in jest. And without them, there would have been no punishment issued, assuming that the things you typed were only typed into team chat, and not into all-chat.

It can't hurt to submit a ticket to Player Support; I would even link them the thread which contains the second case that Pandaa is mentioning. It shouldn't be too hard to find. I'll see if I can find the link for you if I get a minute. It was titled something like "permabanned after friends jokingly reported me."

Dill The Pickle1 votes

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Here's the thing about Riot never overturning permabans. They state that they do not overturn bans issued by the Instant Feedback System; the quote below is taken directly from the Support page article "My Account is Suspended."
Suspensions due to the Instant Feedback System will not be lifted or shortened under any circumstance.

However, as Imperial Pandaa has mentioned, there are rare cases where Riot has been willing to revert a permaban back down to a 14 day suspension if the player was not given the chance to actually serve that punishment and show reform. One of the key factors in the reporting system is that players are reported when they are actively causing a negative game experience, whether that is through toxicity, trolling, feeding, cheating or various other methods. In order for a player to be punished by the Instant Feedback System, they have to be 1. reported for creating the negative experience and 2. have the report verified by something within the logs. In your case, the logs would verify that the Terms of Use were violated, but the reports only came in jest. And without them, there would have been no punishment issued, assuming that the things you typed were only typed into team chat, and not into all-chat.

It can't hurt to submit a ticket to Player Support; I would even link them the thread which contains the second case that Pandaa is mentioning. It shouldn't be too hard to find. I'll see if I can find the link for you if I get a minute. It was titled something like "permabanned after friends jokingly reported me."

I have looked up some cases where peoples suspensions have been decreased from a permaban to a two week ban, but it seemed that was only in the very rare cases. I have already submitted a ticket to Player Support, and once they respond I'll be sure to link the thread. Thanks for helping me out by the way!

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

Whew! That actually took me longer than I thought it would to find that darn thread. I was thinking of a different guy who was reported by his mates. But I've found both of these specific threads. Thread 1 and Thread 2. Good luck with Support =)

Dill The Pickle1 votes

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Whew! That actually took me longer than I thought it would to find that darn thread. I was thinking of a different guy who was reported by his mates. But I've found both of these specific threads. Thread 1 and Thread 2. Good luck with Support =)

Thanks for helping me out man, this honestly gives me hope. The mod had responded to my support ticket and around an hour ago I linked this thread in hopes of him realizing I had no chance to reform. He did say my ban will not be released under any circumstance in his first reply, but I'm hoping he will reconsider after realizing my situation. Thanks again and I hope your efforts were not in vain!

Dill The Pickle2 votes

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Whew! That actually took me longer than I thought it would to find that darn thread. I was thinking of a different guy who was reported by his mates. But I've found both of these specific threads. Thread 1 and Thread 2. Good luck with Support =)

Hey, I'd just like to let you know my suspension has been lowered to two weeks, possibly thanks to your (and Imperials) help. Thanks so much for the help, Ventress!

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

That's great news! I'm really glad that you were able to work things out with Support. You'll be back on the Rift in no time, and if you interact with the people in your games the way you do with us here, you won't have any problems demonstrating reform and positive behavior, which will heal your account's reputation in the system.

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