Permanent Bans
What do you think of the ways bans and suspension is handled?
What do you think of the ways bans and suspension is handled?
I'm in general agreement; if a player refuses to improve their behavior in spite of multiple warnings/punishments, they don't really need to stick around and do more harm. Riot gives considerable leeway for players to cut out their negative behavior.
However, I think they do still need to improve their feeder detection, increase punishment for afk'ing, and improve their communication to players on what minor chat offenses they punish and why they need to do it.
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I'm in general agreement; if a player refuses to improve their behavior in spite of multiple warnings/punishments, they don't really need to stick around and do more harm. Riot gives considerable leeway for players to cut out their negative behavior.
However, I think they do still need to improve their feeder detection, increase punishment for afk'ing, and improve their communication to players on what minor chat offenses they punish and why they need to do it.
Frequent afking probably or chat induced afking. Sometimes power goes out.
It's fine. You get multiple warnings prior, if you went through all those warnings and still didn't changes, that's the player's fault.
I don't think any automated system should be handing out permanent bans.
Every permanent ban is confirmed by a Rioter
Nope, the instant feedback system now hands out permanent bans, and has for a while.
My personal opinion is :
Permament Bans should be exclusive for " toxic behaviour "such as:
Other punishments such as suspensions , chat restrictions, low IP gains, Low priority que, disabled chat should be implemented for " negative behaviour " like :
last example of negative behaviour should be punished only with low IP gains. With current system that prioritizes frequency of behaviour rather than both frequency and severity ( yea yea those 0,0001% cases where smn skips punishment tier are statistically equall to 0 ) with this above implemented guys that say " the only wrong thing hitler did is that he did not kill your whole nation " will be punished more severe than guys that said " _useless mid _ " and that imo is justified. IRL we have diffrent punishments for diffrent crimes League does not.
My personal opinion is :
Permament Bans should be exclusive for " toxic behaviour "such as:
- inting , soft inting
- hate speech , racism, homophobia
- death threats
- verbal assults
Other punishments such as suspensions , chat restrictions, low IP gains, Low priority que, disabled chat should be implemented for " negative behaviour " like :
- calling smn bad
- rage quits
- mild harrasment
- passive agressive chat
- mild trolling ( banning smn champ on purpuse , stealing smns lane in ranked )
last example of negative behaviour should be punished only with low IP gains. With current system that prioritizes frequency of behaviour rather than both frequency and severity ( yea yea those 0,0001% cases where smn skips punishment tier are statistically equall to 0 ) with this above implemented guys that say " the only wrong thing hitler did is that he did not kill your whole nation " will be punished more severe than guys that said " _useless mid _ " and that imo is justified. IRL we have diffrent punishments for diffrent crimes League does not.
i agree however i think gameplay trolling of any kind should be 1st offense perma.
it depends man , i dont think some "gameplay trolling" should be permad , yea people tilt , i had a jungler today that tilted to oblivion after our mid literally slept 3 times he invaded and he ran it down mid tyler 1 style 2 times. Then he calmed down and played the game said he is sorry but its his 3rd game where his mid is literally not giving a fuck. and i kinda understand him. Not what he did , but how he felt.
Also the system that detects feeders etc is literally piece of shit and is not working at all , we got guys that get permabanned for "inting " even tho they are confirmed that they only had bad game ( guy played yasuo did 2nd most damge had most farm but was fucked top ended 0/11/0 he shown replays of his game not one kill was intentionall ) while in the same time we have threads on boards like
_" this guy is inting 21st game in a row without ban when will this system do smth " _
I'm fine with the punishment system for toxic chat. I just think they need to step up their punishment for afks/inting/trolling.
I think it should kinda be like Dota 2 and just put toxic people in low priority matchmaking for a set games but if they don't change just place them their forever instead of banning. Inting and trolling would cause permanent or temp ban.
the way riot is currently handling permabans is horrifible the amount of revenue lost just because of players afraid to spend money in the game is huge. No sane human being that has been punished even once by the chat restriction system would ever want to spend money on the game.