Perma banned with no warning

TurtleKnite··1 votes·1,221 views

So while I was waiting in que i got this message that my account has been banned.After I logged back I saw that I was perma banned.It feels kinda of strange since I got no warning and no email .Was i toxic on those 3 games that they showed me the chat logs? Yes I was ,with no good reason?no.2 of those games I had 2 adcs flame me and letting me die and the third game I had an instalocked on top so i had to play support again. Tell me again how is it fair that he took my top and I had to play support and im banned? I would have been okay with a 2 week ban lets say but no warning ,no email, Just perma banned seems odd.I never had been banned for 5 years playing only ONCE a chat restriction and now suddenly perma banned? Does anyone know something about this?

42 Comments

Chermorg4 votes

Please post your chat logs so we can identify if there was a reason for your escalated ban.

TurtleKnite1 votes

posted them ,btw at game 3 i was talking with a friend

Colgate Gator1 votes

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posted them ,btw at game 3 i was talking with a friend

The plot twist is that your friend has been reporting you in every game you get like that.

TurtleKnite1 votes

damn i feel stabbed in the back

HalcyonDweller4 votes

It sucks to get idiot teammates. But taking frustration out on them does not solve the problem, and usually only makes everything worse.

The problem you have here is that you are not communicating in a way that is going to get you what you want from your teammates. If you harass them then they will not listen to you, and may in fact stop playing so they can argue with you. If they are arguing in chat, they aren't playing. The less time they spend paying attention to and playing the game, the more likely you are to lose. Additionally, if you tell them to afk, there are two likely outcomes:

  1. Either they will actually afk and you will lose the game even worse because it becomes 4v5.

  2. or they will not afk but will get upset with you, becoming further distracted and playing worse.

If teammates are harassing you, responding will only antagonize them further and ensure that they will keep harassing you. If you instead mute them then you won't have to see any of the rancid bullshit they type, and you won't be feeding their behavior by giving them attention.

Cooperating with teammates is hard, especially if some of them are idiots or are toxic.

Some safe rules of thumb include:

  1. If you're going to say something, avoid offensive language, this includes hate speech, gross implications, kys, cuss words, etc. Even if it's not hate speech it can upset other players, so better safe than sorry.

  2. Don't make implications or insults towards other players. Simple, if you piss someone off by insulting them, they are going to be distracted by it and play worse, and they will be more likely to want to report you after the game.

And here are some more specialized tips:

  1. If you absolutely need to rage, do it through another avenue that your fellow players cannot see. It's not wrong to get these feelings out, and you shouldn't repress them. You just need to find ways to do so without negatively impacting others. Two recommendations are either yell at your screen, or alt tab for a few seconds to open up a notepad and type up a storm. Another one is to yell into a pillow.

  2. Don't address individual players directly when talking about their bad actions.

  • If they are trolls or toxic, they will only react even worse.
  • If they are doing badly and tilted, they may feel singled out and get defensive. If a player is struggling or making mistakes, it is easier to talk in terms of "we" the team. For example, "We need to ward around baron like, 30 seconds before it spawns next time so that we can approach it without the enemy catching us." Instead of, "You shouldn't have tried to make a baron play without vision." Or another example, "It will be safer to wait under turret for the lane to push instead of going out to try and farm at half HP."
  1. It's really important for team morale to make teammates feel like you respect and support them. If they feel like you have their back, they will have yours as well. They will listen to your calls for plays to make, and they will be a lot less likely to argue with you or report you after the game. You can accomplish this a few ways:
  • By complementing them for good plays, even if they are not the ones responsible for that play going well. This will motivate them to do even better the next time because they know that they will be recognized and appreciated for doing well. For example, "Great job Top and Jg." After a gank occurs top-lane that results in killing or forcing the enemy laner to burn significant cooldowns or recall leaving their turret undefended.
  • By consoling them when a play goes badly. This will make them feel like you respect them as people even if they are playing poorly. It will let them know that you aren't just watching their every move waiting to criticize mistakes, and it will minimize how much tilt they experience from their play going badly. For example, "Hey man, I'm sorry that didn't go well. It's ok though. Better luck next time, right?" After a failed gank that wastes significant cooldowns or gets the jungler or laner killed.

There's other things you can do outside of game as well, like taking a 5 minute break to get up and walk around after a frustrating game. Getting your blood flowing and shaking your limbs out will help your mind to reset from that experience so that you don't carry it with you into the next game and make mistakes merely because you are frustrated.

Additionally, it is important to get sufficient rest, nutrition and hydration before playing. If you have the nutrients you need to keep your brain functioning well, it will be much more resilient to frustration and you will be less likely to tilt after a negative experience.

BETA2532 votes

i think league is just now paranoid about toxic players and they want to remove that reputation of salt.

TurtleKnite1 votes

I kind of understand , but no 2 week ban, no warning . What the heck did i say so bad i must be banned

hshtagniemehrcdu1 votes

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I kind of understand , but no 2 week ban, no warning . What the heck did i say so bad i must be banned

kys... kill yourself

That's what you said, and that's what justifies an instant permabann.

Not that it matters, but was your CR recently?

TurtleKnite1 votes

what is CR?

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Chat restriction

Hyperiön1 votes

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I kind of understand , but no 2 week ban, no warning . What the heck did i say so bad i must be banned

If it is severe enough, which it is. They go straight to perm ban.

Telling people to kill themselves. Thats not good. People actually come to play this game for fun and get it completely ruined by you.

TurtleKnite1 votes

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If it is severe enough, which it is. They go straight to perm ban.

Telling people to kill themselves. Thats not good. People actually come to play this game for fun and get it completely ruined by you.

I ruin fuckin games not trolls and afks. damn stop suckin off riot's dick

Hyperiön2 votes

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I ruin fuckin games not trolls and afks. damn stop suckin off riot's dick

I am not?

I literally just said that if it is severe enough they go straight to perm ban.

And telling people to kill themselves, put a high toll on your account.

THE HUNTERS1 votes

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Hyperiön1 votes

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he is right plz stop sucking riots dickk ive seen alot of retards trying to get recognition from riot but not you fcking retards ruin people lives if being toxic gets you perma ban might as well just get rid of chat itself because there will be alot of people that quit games and use hacks but aay they get away so stop trying to tell people to not thing that riot is a company filled with fkcing handicaps that just report you for over words ffs .

Lol.

I am not trying to get any recognition. If you aren't looking for critism, don't post on PB. All I said was that if it is severe enough, they skin warnings and go to perm ban status.

Telling people to kill themselves is clearly unacceptable, as you can tell by the OP.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Except people who consistently quot games get punished by Leaverbuster and those who script or hack tend to get banned on waves with the leveling bots.

Riot staff aren't the ones reporting you, the community is. The reports go to an automated program, IFS, that hands out bans based on your chat. Id you did nothing wrong then no punishment is given.

TurtleKnite1 votes

Game 1 TurtleKnite: kayn mid TurtleKnite: you just gave them free drake TurtleKnite: and 3 kills TurtleKnite: what TurtleKnite: the TurtleKnite: fuck TurtleKnite: elise TurtleKnite: go TurtleKnite: afk TurtleKnite: NOW TurtleKnite: NOW TurtleKnite: no TurtleKnite: fuck it TurtleKnite: not stayinb bot TurtleKnite: this trist is useless TurtleKnite: learn to play TurtleKnite: first TurtleKnite: open TurtleKnite: fuck this tristana TurtleKnite: ask tristana TurtleKnite: done with dumb fuckin adcs TurtleKnite: cant farm TurtleKnite: cant kill TurtleKnite: DONT CARE TurtleKnite: dont want to win TurtleKnite: with u and this fuckin tristana TurtleKnite: and kayn mid that instalocks last second TurtleKnite: no TurtleKnite: oopsie TurtleKnite: btw maokai coming top TurtleKnite: so u better run TurtleKnite: told u d1ckhead TurtleKnite: phanteon with ignite TurtleKnite: and u still cant kill rakan TurtleKnite: sad TurtleKnite: easy win TurtleKnite: we have no late game TurtleKnite: nor adc TurtleKnite: XD TurtleKnite: omg lag TurtleKnite: why am i going mid TurtleKnite: i cant move TurtleKnite: lag TurtleKnite: oh noo TurtleKnite: turret TurtleKnite: :* TurtleKnite: sad when u die 7 times in 18 minutes TurtleKnite: 2 vs 1 TurtleKnite: oh shit TurtleKnite: another infernal lost TurtleKnite: yeeeey TurtleKnite: can we ff now? TurtleKnite: elise TurtleKnite: shhhh TurtleKnite: u lost 2 infernals TurtleKnite: u should really went afk after the first 1 TurtleKnite: welp TurtleKnite: gg TurtleKnite: fuck this mission TurtleKnite: imposible to win with those monkeys TurtleKnite: XDD TurtleKnite: thier jungler >>>>>>>>>> ours TurtleKnite: gratz TurtleKnite: yo maokai TurtleKnite: goog job buddy TurtleKnite: 2 infernals and 1 baron TurtleKnite: very good TurtleKnite: not like some junglers i know TurtleKnite: XDDDDD TurtleKnite: do u see TurtleKnite: tristana TurtleKnite: are we seriously wasting time TurtleKnite: on a lost game TurtleKnite: ya dude TurtleKnite: but better TurtleKnite: why did u go drake TurtleKnite: when we 3 TurtleKnite: went top TurtleKnite: cuz i wasnt alone u see TurtleKnite: b1tch TurtleKnite: u died 7 times TurtleKnite: gg TurtleKnite: if only i had a team TurtleKnite: nope TurtleKnite: trist TurtleKnite: negative damage TurtleKnite: trist TurtleKnite: its like TurtleKnite: ur healing them TurtleKnite: thats your damage TurtleKnite: your damage is so low TurtleKnite: you started healing them TurtleKnite: with your autos TurtleKnite: hey tristana TurtleKnite: noice damage TurtleKnite: XDD TurtleKnite: 3 infernals TurtleKnite: wow TurtleKnite: if only we had that amount TurtleKnite: elise TurtleKnite: you better watch out TurtleKnite: tristana is dealing some insane damage !!! TurtleKnite: g TurtleKnite: g TurtleKnite: hard game TurtleKnite: best adc Game 2 TurtleKnite: will do TurtleKnite: velkoz TurtleKnite: kill yourself TurtleKnite: should i go afk TurtleKnite: just say the word TurtleKnite: this velkoz thinks he's funny TurtleKnite: ignite on him down TurtleKnite: now fight TurtleKnite: GOD DAMN TurtleKnite: U ARE SO TurtleKnite: USELESS TurtleKnite: DRAVEN TurtleKnite: PLS TurtleKnite: KILL HIM TurtleKnite: xd TurtleKnite: JUST LOOK AT HIM TurtleKnite: HOW IS HE GOLD 5 TurtleKnite: RIGHT CLICK TurtleKnite: ON THE TurtleKnite: FUCKIN TurtleKnite: TURRET TurtleKnite: they will go for i TurtleKnite: just wave clear TurtleKnite: why are you so dumb TurtleKnite: holy shit TurtleKnite: im done TurtleKnite: report this fuck TurtleKnite: good TurtleKnite: for report TurtleKnite: welp TurtleKnite: gg TurtleKnite: we cant win TurtleKnite: cuz of velkoz TurtleKnite: gg TurtleKnite: go back afk TurtleKnite: XDDDD TurtleKnite: VELKOZ TurtleKnite: SAID TurtleKnite: ok i will go akf and i will fuckk your mother TurtleKnite: 12 year old inc TurtleKnite: gg TurtleKnite: report velkoz TurtleKnite: so hard TurtleKnite: he went afk TurtleKnite: wonder why i flamed him TurtleKnite: just think TurtleKnite: gold 5 TurtleKnite: 0 lp TurtleKnite: xd TurtleKnite: and he thinks TurtleKnite: he is not afk TurtleKnite: just ff TurtleKnite: velkoz TurtleKnite: go drink your milk TurtleKnite: lil boy TurtleKnite: pff TurtleKnite: gg TurtleKnite: good think TurtleKnite: velkoz didnt win TurtleKnite: kys TurtleKnite: 6 12 TurtleKnite: carried Game 3 TurtleKnite: who wants to see TurtleKnite: magic TurtleKnite: no one TurtleKnite: best magic trick TurtleKnite: free TurtleKnite: ;) TurtleKnite: no trinket TurtleKnite: boom TurtleKnite: trinket TurtleKnite: yer a wizzard harry TurtleKnite: never TurtleKnite: come top again TurtleKnite: useless fuck TurtleKnite: was so good top TurtleKnite: until you came TurtleKnite: merg afk TurtleKnite: ca tre sa vina TurtleKnite: jungleru retard in pula mea TurtleKnite: stai sa vin TurtleKnite: la tine pe lane TurtleKnite: sa te omor TurtleKnite: sa vad ce bine e in pula mea TurtleKnite: ca numai pot TurtleKnite: toti retarzii de jungleri TurtleKnite: nu TurtleKnite: mhm TurtleKnite: useless fuck TurtleKnite: told you TurtleKnite: not to come top TurtleKnite: kayn TurtleKnite: go afk TurtleKnite: now TurtleKnite: thats not afk TurtleKnite: really TurtleKnite: .I. TurtleKnite: why are you saying that TurtleKnite: u expect TurtleKnite: kayn to be useful? TurtleKnite: rofl TurtleKnite: ? TurtleKnite: .I. TurtleKnite: most epic battles TurtleKnite: ever TurtleKnite: meanwhile our jungler wanks his d1ck bot TurtleKnite: .i. TurtleKnite: alistar TurtleKnite: who thinks he's funny TurtleKnite: cry TurtleKnite: easy TurtleKnite: very TurtleKnite: easy TurtleKnite: report kayn TurtleKnite: afk

U No Gank Me Pls4 votes

I find it hilarious that you ask your teammate to go AFK, and then cry for reports after he went AFK.

TurtleKnite1 votes

so because of that i must be perma banned with no warning.Legit

U No Gank Me Pls5 votes

Hm, I don't recall saying that in any way, shape, or form. I simply said I found it hilarious.

If you're not educated enough to understand it, I guess I'll spoon feed it to ya though:

You were permabanned because you repeatedly told players to kill themselves, called teammates retarded, and constantly harassed them. Certain things, ie racism, other hate speech (such as calling players retard), and telling players to kill themselves, escalate penalties. So you don't get warnings.

Mentozz1 votes

hes got a point bro something thats helped me is to just start calling people potatos instead of swearing or getting tilted. its fun once you see how people react to being callled a potato. plus you wont get banned for calling people potatoes its when you start using slurs and cuss words

BETA2531 votes

honestly, i've seen some shit but nothing comes close to a person who blames there tristana just for not scaling well. also no matter what, i have respect for junglers, there the ones helping the lanes, they're the ones who snowball lanes and just because je tried and failed doesnt mean he is a dick. that ban was deserved, HOWEVER it should have been a.1month and b. notified

TurtleKnite1 votes

tristana flamed me, got my top stolen and my jungler came and feed my lane.Whatever I guess a month would have been justified but perma..

Beas7ie2 votes

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tristana flamed me, got my top stolen and my jungler came and feed my lane.Whatever I guess a month would have been justified but perma..

This has already been spoon fed to you. 2 posts above yours. Things like using the N word, "%%%got" "kill your self" and similar are AT LEAST a 2 week ban. You saying stuff like that mulitple times over the three games is what escalated it to a perma.

Also things like

TurtleKnite: ok i will go akf and i will fuckk your mother

Normally an instant perma out of the blue with no previous warnings or punishments would be extreme but in this case it was well deserved.

TurtleKnite1 votes

Velkoz said to me "Il go fk your mother" so i said it sarcastically back at him.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Dude don't even bother. That velkoz was a waste of your time. You should just mute people like that instead of responding to them.

It's not your job to dole out justice to players who have wronged you. Leave that to Riot.

TurtleKnite1 votes

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This has already been spoon fed to you. 2 posts above yours. Things like using the N word, "%%%got" "kill your self" and similar are AT LEAST a 2 week ban. You saying stuff like that mulitple times over the three games is what escalated it to a perma.

Also things like

TurtleKnite: ok i will go akf and i will fuckk your mother

Normally an instant perma out of the blue with no previous warnings or punishments would be extreme but in this case it was well deserved.

for saying kys 3 games i get perma banned on a 5 year old account

archerno12 votes

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for saying kys 3 games i get perma banned on a 5 year old account

Saying it 1 game would also get u perma banned. Also dont try to make yourself victim. You started flaming Tristana because you considered her inferior ADC. Second game too, you started flaming your ADC first . You deserve your perma ban.

Beas7ie1 votes

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for saying kys 3 games i get perma banned on a 5 year old account

It doesn't matter if you made your account on day one back when the game was still in Beta. Riot takes things like what I mentioned before VERY seriously. Saying them even ONCE is almost always at MINIMUM a 2 week ban. I don't how else to explain this as at this point we're past spoon feeding you and now using an intravenous IV or whatever it is they call it at the hospitals.

If you want to be an asshole and not get punished for saying things like "KYS" go play other games. I heard Player Unknown's Battlegrounds is well known for it's toxic chat and banter, especially voice chat so you can screech "KYS" at people all you want over there.

It's pretty much a zero tolerance party over here.

Cute Poro1 votes

Doesn't matter how old your account is, how much money you spent. None of that matters because it doesn't make you an exception to following the rules. Reading through your log, it was extremely toxic and Riot has a zero tolerance policy. So yes, you get permabanned on your 5 year old account for saying what you said throughout 3 games.

BETA2532 votes

ikr. feelsbadman. i cant blame you for this, your team really was shit (3INFERNALS??)

Beas7ie2 votes

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honestly, i've seen some shit but nothing comes close to a person who blames there tristana just for not scaling well. also no matter what, i have respect for junglers, there the ones helping the lanes, they're the ones who snowball lanes and just because je tried and failed doesnt mean he is a dick. that ban was deserved, HOWEVER it should have been a.1month and b. notified

their and they're

HalcyonDweller2 votes

Specifically addressing your chat logs, you crossed a lot of lines and said a lot of terrible things to teammates. People suck sometimes, and getting upset about it is natural. But the way you handled your anger was extremely toxic and detrimental to you and your efforts to winning the game.

First off if you're getting that stressed out over the game, it is not fulfilling its purpose of fun for you, and is likely unhealthy for you to be participating in. Given that I think that your ban was a good choice by Riot, not just for other players, but also for you. This game is clearly bad for you, and you need time away from it until you've developed the tools to cope with and properly handle the situations you will face when playing in this community.

Secondly, if you get into arguments in chat, you're going to lose the match. Simple as that. It is a team game that requires cooperation, and without that cooperation you will be at a huge disadvantage. Communicating with others in an effective way to get the cooperation you need from them is a skill that is as important to this game as the base mechanics of controlling characters. If you really care about winning then you will stop arguing with others in chat, and focus on proving yourself with your actions, and only using chat to call plays or coordinate a new strategy.

Subdue1 votes

With chat logs like those, what I find surprising is that you are only just now getting permabanned.

General Esdeath 1 votes

If someone takes your role just pick whatever and play your role. When the report comes, Riot can see who was assigned to what role and pre-game chat, don't be toxic.

THE HUNTERS1 votes

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Imperial Pandaa1 votes

You mist be somewhat sheltered. Are you seriously telling me you have never read about cases where people have been told to kill themselves online and then actually did it? It doesn't matter if it is real life or a game, you don't know the other persons situation. Do you really want to potentially be that person that pushed someone over the edge and they commit suicide?

Freedom of speech only gives you the ability to say it, it doesn't protect you from the actions others take once you say it. Shouting "Fire!" in a movie theater will get you kicked out and police called, freedom of speech doesn't protect that.

If that is literally the only reason you play this game, then you should really consider finding another game that may not be as strict. It is Riots server and they can do what they want. Similar to if you joined someones server on any other game, like DayZ/Ark/Tabletop Simulator, they have the right to remove you from their server.

THE HUNTERS1 votes

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Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Really? I misread this bit?

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so for example if someone tells you to kill yourself would you do it in real live ? no right so stop bitching about it and move forward you whinny little bich.

Also there is a line between trash talking and straight up flaming. One that you don't apparently see. Your right, there is a mute button, but I don't know ahead of time if they are going to be toxic. By the time it happens, depending on what was said it might be too late. I don't report for trash talking, friendly banter between people is fine with trash talk. You need to make sure people know it is just friendly banter though. Maybe you are on comms with your friend and jokingly you tell eachother to "kys" I don't know the situation so I think it is actually toxicity. That being said I don't usually report unless it is extreme stuff like hate speech or encouraging self harm. They do ban for trolling and intentionally ruining people games, it just takes longer because they don't want to ban for a few bad games. They want to make sure it is for the purpose of ruining games.

No you close minded fool, I'm saying there are people who have had a much tougher life than me, I can't speak for you because I don't know your life, that teeter on the edge of suicide because they are becoming tired of living. That doesn't make someone a "pussy ass bitch", it just makes them someone who is trying to survive behind enemy lines with a stick. Muting and reporting doesn't make me someone who needs protection, it makes me someone who is trying to help the community become better because there might be someone who teeters on the edge and encouragement to die might be all they need. It also makes me the more mature player instead of "fighting fire with fire."

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