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Permanently banned on my account

I Ronaldinho I··7 votes·1,542 views

So, I recently got perma banned on my account. I realize that I should have cooperated better, and of course heeded the warnings I got, but honestly I had been much better after I came back from the first suspension. I really feel I did not deserve to be permanently banned from the result of this game. I know there were a few words there I should not have used, but other than that, it was only the one player that was actually insulting me and being rude towards me in game early on, and that's what started with the mute and me replying back. Then, when un mute him, he just keeps say things towards me. I wasn't being rude or anything towards the others. But everyone but one player ganged up on me with the warwick player. Honestly, I really feel riot could at least see the full chat to see what the other player was doing to antagonize me. Again, I said nothing wrong to the others but they continue to call me trolls and swear at me. If anything, the warwick player started it, and would not stop early on which really gets on peoples nerves. He was also toxic towards the top and adc player, when I was not. We ended up winning this game, as I realized I could not compromise with the players so I thought, just play and see what happens. If anything, If I had been toxic towards everyone and clearly shows, I totally get that I deserve it. Also, I really think the next ban should be as extreme as 'banned for a year'. Permanently banned for a game like this because of one player scrutinizing me to start with, is really harsh in my opinion. And honestly, a year ban would really put things to perspective for a player and give him a good amount of time to fix mistakes and be a better person overall whether it be in life or in game. Another option I thought was to hand out a perma ban in ranked, assuming it happens in ranked, as I feel that is where these problems normally occur considering the competitiveness. Let me know what anyone thinks about this and I appreciate any advice and such. Thank you. My chat is below from the most recent game where I had received the permanent ban. Really hoped to show the chat for the other players so to provide more proof on the matter.

Also, at the moment I am trying to contact and talk with Riot Support, unless I am to speak with somebody else, and discuss with them about this, and if it was even ever possible to receive a years' ban instead. This is really important to me of course, and I would have no problem receiving a lengthy ban such as that and give myself that time to be better in every aspect. I spent a good amount of money to enjoy the game a bit more, as everyone does, so it hurts for all of it to be gone because of one game. And of course, I understand I received warnings, but honestly, I've been reported for very minimal things in the past as well when I am equally the victim, and more or less ganged up on by the others, in which I would be reported for 'trolling' because I did not want to help them in game after I received the verbal abuse.

Apologizes for the rant!

Game 1 I Ronaldinho I: muted I Ronaldinho I: meanwhile I Ronaldinho I: ww not watching mid I Ronaldinho I: useless jg I Ronaldinho I: ahha I Ronaldinho I: called mia I Ronaldinho I: scrub I Ronaldinho I: reported for being a lier I Ronaldinho I: but okay I Ronaldinho I: thanks for taking blue when i wanted one at least I Ronaldinho I: im gonna farm and help when i want to I Ronaldinho I: yeah vayne, lier. I Ronaldinho I: i wasnt even toxic what so ever lmao I Ronaldinho I: it doesnt matter. you are looking at spelling when im trying to make a point I Ronaldinho I: thats how clueless you both are I Ronaldinho I: of course I Ronaldinho I: you are on the side of the one thats fed I Ronaldinho I: and carrying you I Ronaldinho I: as i said, im gonna farm and play my own game I Ronaldinho I: you were toxic all game I Ronaldinho I: i can report you easily I Ronaldinho I: you took blue and were never helping what so ever I Ronaldinho I: ww is fed he should be carrying us I Ronaldinho I: exactly I Ronaldinho I: thats why im a huge part I Ronaldinho I: of this team I Ronaldinho I: apparently not to ww I Ronaldinho I: but again I Ronaldinho I: he should be carrying anyway I Ronaldinho I: lmfa I Ronaldinho I: look at ww I Ronaldinho I: you guys are all backing his ass. I Ronaldinho I: when hes farming I Ronaldinho I: jg I Ronaldinho I: lmfao I Ronaldinho I: im done I Ronaldinho I: ive seen it all I Ronaldinho I: teams blame me when im being antagonized I Ronaldinho I: all game by him I Ronaldinho I: you should tell him I Ronaldinho I: see I Ronaldinho I: all you are doign I Ronaldinho I: is saying awful stuff I Ronaldinho I: to me I Ronaldinho I: and not ww I Ronaldinho I: cause hes doing the best I Ronaldinho I: on the team I Ronaldinho I: its obvious I Ronaldinho I: you guys are reported anyway I Ronaldinho I: thats just awful. how you guys treat others I Ronaldinho I: always ganging up on the one playe I Ronaldinho I: my team is so toxic towards me.. I Ronaldinho I: doesnt matteer you are all reported I Ronaldinho I: for being rude to me all game I Ronaldinho I: this league community.. I Ronaldinho I: lets win I Ronaldinho I: k lets win I Ronaldinho I: nice I Ronaldinho I: okay lets try I Ronaldinho I: wait for minions I Ronaldinho I: kat I Ronaldinho I: nice I Ronaldinho I: oh well I Ronaldinho I: nice guys I Ronaldinho I: naut I Ronaldinho I: nice utl I Ronaldinho I: gg wp

14 Comments

Siegfriedx25 votes

Other people behavior on an online environment are always just an invitation. They can't actually enforce you to anything, therefore if you engage in the same behavior it's your responsibility.

In summary, don't do with others what they do with you on league.

SrbLud4 votes

Other peoples bad behaviour doesn't mean you are automatically allowed to do the same. Also threatening and asking for reports is considered harrasment. You were on thin ice after your past punishments so you shouldn't really be surprised. Perma ban was next on the line for you if you got punished and it happened. Learn from this.

I Ronaldinho I2 votes

Uh, I understand that of course. I get that I should not have continued to keep talking to that other player. But honestly, I barely said things that should be considered bad. For the record, that other player said things to me as well of not worse, so it hurts that I'm not able to show what that person had done. And what? Where in the chat was I asking for reports? I never mentioned such a thing. All I said was "reported for being a lier" with regards to the player saying he would report me for even things I did not do. and for me saying I would report them a few times there, how is that harassment? They were clearly harassing me in game, and again I wish I could display their chat. I understand of the warnings, but if things like these could be resolved in a better manner, like looking at the entirety of the chat and seeing if of any real issues and discussing with the player, that would help a lot. Thank you for your input.

SrbLud3 votes

For the record, that other player said things to me as well of not worse, so it hurts that I'm not able to show what that person had done.

What he said doesn't matter. You were the one under review, not him.

And what? Where in the chat was I asking for reports? I never mentioned such a thing. All I said was "reported for being a lier" with regards to the player saying he would report me for even things I did not do. and for me saying I would report them a few times there, how is that harassment?

You threatened with reports. It falls under harrasment because you are threatening them. ( I don't know how that's not clear... and lying isn't reportable per se )

I understand of the warnings, but if things like these could be resolved in a better manner, like looking at the entirety of the chat and seeing if of any real issues and discussing with the player, that would help a lot.

Clearly you didn't understand. Or at least you didn't soak in all the information about the system. When you reciprocate you solve nothing. You just become a part of the problem. The flaming won't stop.

And why would they discuss anything with players? They set the rules and they are clear. If someone flames just ignore. How badly are you gonna get hurt by someone behind a screen hundreds of miles away?

It's easy not to be toxic. You just didn't try enough.

RallerenP1 votes

You start that comment by stating that you understand that other players cannot force you to do anything. You then go on to explain that you did it in response to someone else.

Also, this is certainly your own fault, and you got a lot of chances. The punishment tier goes like this: 5 Game chat restrict 25 Game chat restrict 14 Day ban Permaban

Each time you break the rules you go 1 step up the punishment tier. The last being permanent with no way back other than if Riot made a mistake which they did not do here.

The only advice we can give you is to contact player support if you are still confused about why you got banned.

PrometheS3 votes

{quoted}

You start that comment by stating that you understand that other players cannot force you to do anything. You then go on to explain that you did it in response to someone else.

Also, this is certainly your own fault, and you got a lot of chances. The punishment tier goes like this: 5 Game chat restrict 25 Game chat restrict 14 Day ban Permaban

Each time you break the rules you go 1 step up the punishment tier. The last being permanent with no way back other than if Riot made a mistake which they did not do here.

The only advice we can give you is to contact player support if you are still confused about why you got banned.

Let's not kid ourselves. There are no actual rules. There are only loose guidelines which can be used to fit any situation. It protects nobody and applies to everybody. The beauty of rules is that they have enough detail to protect both parties in a mutually beneficial way. You know your rights and they know theirs. Riot's rules are a joke. You have no rights. They lack specificity to the point of being nothing more than a carte blanche for Riot.

Limmie3 votes

They lack specificity because specifying them would only encourage people to deliberately skirt the edges. That's all there is to it. You shouldn't need to specifically outline common decency. If someone needs to have what's decent behavior outlined to them, then they're just not the kind of person that Riot wants to be part of their game.

zecastar3 votes

I didn't read your whole chat but apparently, you're under the false impression (despite claims to the contrary) that reports have to be justified and logical to flag your account. They do not. People just have to be annoyed at you enough to make your report frequency stand out.

You typed "useless jg" and that's not constructive or nice. You could be 100% right and he may be walking back and forth in a bush spamming laugh but if you actually point that out, you're the one who gets punished for it. Reality doesn't matter. Context doesn't matter. Everything has to be positive or you risk punishment. There could be a nuclear holocaust outside but you've got to say you enjoy the warm breeze. Your arm could be sawed off but you need to say that red is your favorite color and you've always wanted to lose some weight. Riot doesn't outright say this because of how stupid it sounds but it's how it actually works. It's all very superficial and basically black or white. At least you can't get punished for saying nothing.

Limmie2 votes

There could be a nuclear holocaust outside but you've got to say you enjoy the warm breeze. Your arm could be sawed off but you need to say that red is your favorite color and you've always wanted to lose some weight.

No, you don't have to say those things. You don't have to say anything at all.

At least you cant get punished for saying nothing.

Now you get it.

I Ronaldinho I1 votes

Honestly, all I really understand is how strict league of legends is for really stupid reasons. There are worse things being said by players that I have seen, and as far as I see you get the same warning for that. Its absolutely absurd. I get that I should not have acted in the way that I did, and probably said nothing, but really, I know it wasn't extreme what I did. I was literally getting antagonized by the other players, getting sworn at, and being reported for things I did not even do wrong about. Again, of course I should not have said things I did, but Riot needs to fix their whole reporting and banning system, because it's ridiculous. One example, that I'll never ever understand, is one player that actually went extreme measures saying so much cruel things to his teammates, and I end up seeing this player again a few games later. Hmm lets see, me saying a few indecent words, not flaming the 'whole' team, just the one player that started the whole thing saying awful things to me. And then you have a player that says racist remarks, and saying really awful things that I don't even want to mention. In the end, we both get the same warning/ban/report. Absurd

Telephone Booth3 votes

Wow.. TL;DR, but thanks for the toxic chat log.. that was entertaining to read knowing that you got punished for it.

I Ronaldinho I1 votes

See, the fact that you had little to know input and barely read what I wrote if at all, shows how clueless you are to what I was trying to get at. You sound like the negative type of player, no doubt. I put my chat log to show that I'm not a lying about what happened from my side. Of course, I said a few words and was a little negative, but you have no idea how I was treated in that game as I can't even bring up the chat from the other players. It's kids like yourself that don't even realize what being toxic is. The fact that someone that says a few negative words to one player from retaliation to how he acted towards me gets the same treatment as someone who goes extreme measures and says cruel things and flames the whole team, is beyond ridiculous. Yeah, that happened to me one game and I saw the same player in another game after. I understand chat restrictions, but getting suspended for only 14 days, is not enough. The player knows he'll be able to play in a few weeks. If Riot understood of not being so absurdly strict and gave either a longer suspension or permanent, depending on the severity of the situation, the game would actually be much better, and a lot more consistent. Here's another long read for ya that you're probably to lazy too read as well, but that's okay.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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See, the fact that you had little to know input and barely read what I wrote if at all, shows how clueless you are to what I was trying to get at. You sound like the negative type of player, no doubt. I put my chat log to show that I'm not a lying about what happened from my side. Of course, I said a few words and was a little negative, but you have no idea how I was treated in that game as I can't even bring up the chat from the other players. It's kids like yourself that don't even realize what being toxic is. The fact that someone that says a few negative words to one player from retaliation to how he acted towards me gets the same treatment as someone who goes extreme measures and says cruel things and flames the whole team, is beyond ridiculous. Yeah, that happened to me one game and I saw the same player in another game after. I understand chat restrictions, but getting suspended for only 14 days, is not enough. The player knows he'll be able to play in a few weeks. If Riot understood of not being so absurdly strict and gave either a longer suspension or permanent, depending on the severity of the situation, the game would actually be much better, and a lot more consistent. Here's another long read for ya that you're probably to lazy too read as well, but that's okay.

Again TL;DR

ShakeDatYasuo2 votes

What I've learned is that if you get a restriction you will be punished worse the next one like if you get a week ban and the next game you get reported you will be in worse condition than if you had never gotten the week ban

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