then lets allow them to report AND riot to severely punish anyone who use profanity. yea, that system makes a lot of sense. they should make it like maplestory and not allow anyone to turn off the censor. then all would be fine.
disregardable12 votesYou can swear all you want. You just can't use the swear words to insult your team.
Fine: "Shit, I missed the fucking hook" Bannable: "Fuck you Blitzcrank, you're shit for missing that hook".
TrulyBland5 votesThis. The only time Riot will ban you because of the words you say, is when it involves homophobia / racism / sexism / etc
Naramiel5 votes"If you don't want to hear me spew venom, just mute. I shouldn't get banned." = "If you don't want to see me wave my junk in your face, just close your eyes. I shouldn't get arrested."
Zerfallen2 votesI was going to use something about subways and masturbation... then I saw your post and that you beat me to it (in essence at least) :3
Denavai2 votesYeap, now I just have to enjoy reporting people as soon as I see them swear. This game makes you into such a little.... cough I swear... I feel like I'm 5 telling on my big brother... Riot - taking players to a new low since 2006. Wish I had my swammendments back.
RedTao1 votesJust the fact that at least 6 people decided to downvote you just for having an opinion kind of shows it's true. On that note, it's also applicable to the mute button. Riot and community complain about 'toxicity' in the chat yet we have the mute button that can take all of it away. Much like the profanity option, people dont like using the mute either.
EvilDustMan7 votesJust the fact that at least 6 people decided to downvote you just for having an opinion kind of shows it's true. On that note, it's also applicable to the mute button. Riot and community complain about 'toxicity' in the chat yet we have the mute button that can take all of it away. Much like the profanity option, people dont like using the mute either.
Downvotes=truth?
No. The Downvotes come from a misunderstanding of the system. No one cares if you say fuck. We care if you start insulting us while we are trying to play. It is annoying and distracting. And we shouldn't have to muse people. Being an ass is, in general, not socially acceptable.
RedTao1 votesWhat's there to misunderstand? If you dont want to see offensive words on chat, use profanity filter. If you dont like what someone's saying in game, use mute. It's pretty self explanatory. If someone's insulting you, use mute. If you don't use mute, you're pretty much a willing and consenting participant to getting dogged on. While i do agree that being an ass to people is socially unacceptable, there are still things you can do to keep those people away from you or deal with them. If you have the tools to remove your problems, use them.
Daen8 votesWhat's there to misunderstand? If you dont want to see offensive words on chat, use profanity filter. If you dont like what someone's saying in game, use mute. It's pretty self explanatory. If someone's insulting you, use mute. If you don't use mute, you're pretty much a willing and consenting participant to getting dogged on. While i do agree that being an ass to people is socially unacceptable, there are still things you can do to keep those people away from you or deal with them. If you have the tools to remove your problems, use them.
You mention mute as a tool, which is fine, but reporting is also a tool to help deal with those players. Muting is a response to negativity that has already happened, it doesn't prevent it from happening in the first place; reporting, by contrast, can prevent it for future players.
RedTao1 votesReport, while being a tool, is something that should be used when the mute button is not solving the problem. Think of it like the rules of escalation of force. If someone's going into an area they're not supposed to be, does the security person inform the person they should leave the area or do they taser the person? It's the same with doctors. Why give Tramadol or Morphine for pain when Asprin or Motrin is good enough to get the job done?
If mute takes care of the 'toxic' chat, then that's it. Nothing more needs to be done. The problem was taken care of and the escalation of force ends there. If, however, the toxicity is more than just the person talking and it's showing in their actions then yes, I would then put in a report.
It's one thing if the toxicity was limited to the chat, that's where you can control what effects you or not. When it spills over into gameplay that's when the escalation of force is applied. Mute was not sufficient, report is the next/only step to take.
Erdrik5 votesReport, while being a tool, is something that should be used when the mute button is not solving the problem.
Mute will never solve the problem that report is intended to solve. Report is long term prevention. Mute is immediate short term reaction.
Don't use pliers to do a hammers job.
RedTao1 votesIf the toxic players punishment is to lose an account that they can just as easily replace at no expense to keep doing as they've been doing for years, then I dont see how reporting is a long term prevention. Reporting does not stop toxic players from being toxic. Banning does not keep toxic players from playing the game. So while you say mute will never solve the problem, I have to disagree with that. You don't care that the person is toxic. You just care that he's verbally abusing the team as well as you. If you mute the person, you are no longer subjected to it. Report/Ban does not keep toxic player from being toxic nor does it keep them from playing this game. Toxic players that have been toxic in this game love getting a reaction out of people, yes? By muting them you deny them your reaction. They cant keep the dialogue going if there's noone to reciprocate. By banning them all that happens is that they know that the reactions they're getting is the one they've been trying to get from people.
Mute is not an immediate short term reaction, it's moving into another room and locking it so that toxic person cant get in. Report/Ban is just removing the person from the room without any method of keeping him out.
Daen4 votesIf the toxic players punishment is to lose an account that they can just as easily replace at no expense to keep doing as they've been doing for years, then I dont see how reporting is a long term prevention. Reporting does not stop toxic players from being toxic. Banning does not keep toxic players from playing the game.
I've seen new accounts from permabanned players get permanently suspended by level 8, it's usually caught pretty quickly.
You don't care that the person is toxic. You just care that he's verbally abusing the team as well as you.
Aren't these pretty much the same thing? If someone is verbally abusing my team and me, I'm probably going to mute that player, but I'll also report him or her after the game so that future players won't have to deal with it.
Mute is not an immediate short term reaction, it's moving into another room and locking it so that toxic person cant get in. Report/Ban is just removing the person from the room without any method of keeping him out.
This isn't accurate, for three reasons:
RedTao1 votesThe Ban removes the person from the room, but this person can just change their name and come back into the room. Again, nothing is keeping toxic people from playing the game if they're banned.The authorities removing the person without having means to keep said person out makes this an ineffective method of solving the problem.
As far as moving into another room and it getting unlocked, just move into another room and lock it again. It's not hard. It's literally 2 buttons to mute somebody and you dont have to listen to them for the rest of the match. Ever match you get new people, it comes with the game but the way to keep the toxic ones from effecting your ability remains the same. Mute them, it solves the problem.
I've been playing this game for the past 3 years. According to Riot and the community, I'm the most toxic player to have ever existed. Why? I don't know. Their explinations make no sense to me. I tried to understand but it keeps ending with either 'it just is' or 'you're too stupid to understand'. Maybe this is because my view as what is toxic is different and I look at things in a different perspective but so many people seem to love to suffer. Why else would they not use the mute button and subject themselves to the chat that offends them? Even if the comments being made had nothing to do with a player, that player will get offended and report. Doesn't matter if the person making the comments not related to anyone on the team, as long as you felt bad, then it's a report.
Do I consider myself a toxic player? Maybe. I'm certainly not trying to be. I don't go around b***hing out the team when things don't go right. I'm already being threatened with a permaban while still not understanding how my 2 week ban made any sense other than people just assumed I was toxic without saying anything about them.
But will the reports and the impending permaban going to keep me from playing the game or change my behavior? Not really. Unless I can understand what was wrong with my previous behavior and that the players effected had absolutely no choice but feel offended by said comments made not about them, then I have no reason to change my behavior. It's taken 3 years to get to this point. I don't have anything of value in my account so they cant threaten me with it. I play the game for the game, not for the things in it. So if they ban me, there's nothing stopping me from coming back and doing what I've been doing.
Honestly, the only way to even make any lasting effect against toxic players is understanding really. Toxic players aren't toxic for no reason. Some do it because negative attention is better than no attention. Others because they don't cope with stress well (This game can be pretty stressful to most, it makes sense) I think I would have to put myself in the catagory that I just dont understand. As I said, I had no intention of being a toxic player, yet I've been called one (As well as feeder, goat f**ker, adopted, etc). But was I going out of my way to be any of these things? No, I was just doing my own thing and enjoying the game as I could. I love the game, I just dont like talking to people in it. They seem to get offended over every little thing I say and I dont understand why. They cant explain it past 'it just is' or 'you're too dumb to understand'.
But this is off topic. If you don't want to see stuff in your chat, use the profanity filter or mute. It's that simple. Reporting/Banning wont stop the offensive things getting into your chat and it can take up to 3 years for said player to even get close to getting permabanned. Mute/Filter fixes your problem right then and there at minimal effort.
EvilDustMan5 votesWhat's there to misunderstand? If you dont want to see offensive words on chat, use profanity filter. If you dont like what someone's saying in game, use mute. It's pretty self explanatory. If someone's insulting you, use mute. If you don't use mute, you're pretty much a willing and consenting participant to getting dogged on. While i do agree that being an ass to people is socially unacceptable, there are still things you can do to keep those people away from you or deal with them. If you have the tools to remove your problems, use them.
Yes. I mute them so I don't have to listen to them and report them so they won't bother other people.
RedTao1 votesDo you honestly believe that will stop them from playing the game even if they got banned? I'm apperantly the most toxic player in the game without even trying, still dont know how but it is what it is I suppose. Even if I get banned im just going to make another account and keep playing as I have for the past 3 years. So yes, the mute problem solves your problem as far as chat box toxicity. Report however does not.
EvilDustMan1 votesDo you honestly believe that will stop them from playing the game even if they got banned? I'm apperantly the most toxic player in the game without even trying, still dont know how but it is what it is I suppose. Even if I get banned im just going to make another account and keep playing as I have for the past 3 years. So yes, the mute problem solves your problem as far as chat box toxicity. Report however does not.
It does. A majority of people who get chat restricted realize their mistake. A major of people who get permanently banned don't come back and a vast MINORITY are repeat perma-ban offenders. The system works just fine in that capacity. If you got chat restricted and don't know why, make a thread with the logs and we can discuss it.
RedTao1 votesI already have. That's where the majority of people say that either I'm to stupid to understand or don't bother explaining their answers. 3 months of this and it still makes no sense to me. It's not even that I cant accept the answers people are saying, it just makes no sense to me.
Anomander1 votesAnyone can get around chat filters. The filter doesn't excuse your behavior. Being toxic doesn't mean profanity.
You can cuss.
You can't cuss at people.
Understand that there is a difference.
