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I would like to know the actual reason I got banned

Harrisun··1 votes·661 views
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I wanna start this by saying I've never been suspended before, I've gotten a few chat restrictions in the past, but nothing serious.

I am pretty toxic in chat, I believe everyone is to some degree, it's an emotionally 'painful' game to play when you're spamming ranked all day and night like me because I have no life. However, I've never intentionally fed or trolled people in my games. I always thought if I was punished it would be a larger chat restriction than my last one over a year ago, or at least a 24 hour - 1 week ban. Instead my first real punishment just now was a 14 day ban.

Well I wanted to know what the real reason I got banned was. I KNOW the stuff in the chat logs is bad and warrants a deserved punishment ("ill point out how bad u are to make sure u know" is something I knew was dumb to say as I was typing it.) but I still feel like this alone wouldn't justify a 14 day ban.

As a Rioter said to someone in a similar post: "The reform card isn't indicative of the actual behavior. You were intentionally feeding as Nunu by running it down bot and then AFKed." - Well I never intentionally fed, so if there's perhaps any more serious things I've typed in the past, I'd appreciate a Rioter to come tell me what I did wrong. I'm sorry regardless, in future I'll just mute everyone and play the game.

To the players out there I have 2 questions:

Do you think my chat logs justify this 14 hour suspension?

and

Do you think being toxic in chat should punish people with suspensions or just chat restrictions? (Leave suspensions to people who int/troll/negatively infact someone's experience outside of chat)

Thanks.

24 Comments

Imperial Pandaa3 votes

For clarity, I presume you mean 14 day ban and not hour.

If you have received a 25 game chat restriction recently, your next punishment would be a 14 day ban, yes.

Harrisun1 votes

This feels like a big leap, a 25 game chat restriction to a 14 day ban? surely they should extend the chat restriction or at least make it a smaller ban than 14 days...

Also as I said, I have received a chat restriction in the past but it was well over a year ago now. Possibly 2 years.

What really upsets me is I was banned the game after my friend reported me as a joke...

Warios2 votes

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This feels like a big leap, a 25 game chat restriction to a 14 day ban? surely they should extend the chat restriction or at least make it a smaller ban than 14 days...

Also as I said, I have received a chat restriction in the past but it was well over a year ago now. Possibly 2 years.

What really upsets me is I was banned the game after my friend reported me as a joke...

your friends need better jokes, or you need better friends.

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

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This feels like a big leap, a 25 game chat restriction to a 14 day ban? surely they should extend the chat restriction or at least make it a smaller ban than 14 days...

Also as I said, I have received a chat restriction in the past but it was well over a year ago now. Possibly 2 years.

What really upsets me is I was banned the game after my friend reported me as a joke...

You know the rules and you broke it. Just accept the punishment and wait out the 14 days. That said, you'd only be banned if you are flagged by the system which means you are toxic in a lot of games you played, not just one.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

Tiers go: 10 game chat restrict 25 game chat restrict 14 day ban Perm ban

Meaning after this you need to be on best behavior. Anything that would trigger a punishment will net a perm ban.

Xidphel1 votes

How many games have you played in the intervening 2 years? Your punishment goes down based on games played.

Harrisun1 votes

a lot.... Probably thousands

Xidphel1 votes

In any case, if your friend reported you as a joke, you'll have to contact Riot Support and tell them of your situation. Also, get your friend to corroborate with your story. With any luck, you might get your punishment revoked.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

our punishment goes down based on games played.

no it doesn't

if you play 100 games but are an ass in all of them, the punishment won't budge a milimeter

for the punishments to regress you need to reform

Xidphel1 votes

Yeah. Wasn't too clear on that one. Play 100 games but DON'T be an ass in all of them and the punishment goes down.

Mordius3 votes

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I would like to know the actual reason I got banned

I am pretty toxic in chat

??? You answered your own question

Harrisun1 votes

They don't instantly give you a 14 day ban for being "pretty toxic". I don't agree that I'm so heavily toxic to the point where they should ban me, please read the full post.

Mordius1 votes

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They don't instantly give you a 14 day ban for being "pretty toxic". I don't agree that I'm so heavily toxic to the point where they should ban me, please read the full post.

The system also tracks Pre-game and post-game lobby chat, but is unable to post in your log. What did you write post game?

z63XnLCMwX2 votes

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The system also tracks Pre-game and post-game lobby chat, but is unable to post in your log. What did you write post game?

I doubt it, if it did I would be banned long time ago.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

No, it does now. Well, my frequently at least.

Mordius1 votes

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I doubt it, if it did I would be banned long time ago.

What are you doubting? It's a fact the system tracks pre and post game

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

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What are you doubting? It's a fact the system tracks pre and post game

If KYS is a trigger word, how am I able to say that post game multiple times for months without being banned?

Warios1 votes

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If KYS is a trigger word, how am I able to say that post game multiple times for months without being banned?

it's a trigger word if you are reported, maybe you been lucky that you have not been yet.

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

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it's a trigger word if you are reported, maybe you been lucky that you have not been yet.

I'm sure I've said it in games where people are calling to report me in post lobby chat. The only way you can get banned for pre/post game toxicity is if the report is sent in as a ticket with a screenshot.

Warios1 votes

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I'm sure I've said it in games where people are calling to report me in post lobby chat. The only way you can get banned for pre/post game toxicity is if the report is sent in as a ticket with a screenshot.

that is false, pre and post game chat can be scanned for toxicity.

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E4LnThmW,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-01-24T20:16:21.061+0000)

The reform card isn't indicative of the actual behavior. You were intentionally feeding as Nunu by running it down bot and then AFKed.

You have a history of this type of behavior as well as playing Kench, and throwing people into the enemy. I will be escalating this to a ban.

Here is your post game chat:

let me tell u a secret u dont get banned for trolling as long as u keep up in level and u dont feed tickets dont work

The system does pick this stuff up. However, it isn't always easy for the system to decide what evidence to give in cases like this.

The trolling ends here.

from this post https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/E4LnThmW-most-ridiculous-chat-restriction-i-have-ever-seen-in-my-life?comment=0011

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

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that is false, pre and post game chat can be scanned for toxicity.

from this post https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/E4LnThmW-most-ridiculous-chat-restriction-i-have-ever-seen-in-my-life?comment=0011

That's pretty recent. Guess I'll avoid triggering the system post game lobby then.

Xidphel1 votes

Do you think my chat logs justify this 14 hour suspension?

You answered your own question in your first sentence:

I wanna start this by saying I've never been suspended before, I've gotten a few chat restrictions in the past, but nothing serious.

https://i.imgur.com/E7nWKCc.png

xnightsamax1 votes

i mean a 2 week ban isnt anything serious man, just take a break and become woke. i got banned for 2 weeks and honestly its not that bad. Unless you literally have no games then you're pretty fucked.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

Hmm, this is a bit unusual. Since your last chat restriction was that long ago, and you haven't been punished again since that time, it would seem that you had shown some improvement since it was issued, enough to keep you from being immediately escalated to the next tier (14 day suspension). And these logs do seem rather mild for a 14 day suspension. Is this the only game that was given? You might want to consider submitting a ticket to Player Support and asking them why your account was escalated to a 14 day suspension. It is possible that if your account was simply regularly reported, but never severe enough to issue a punishment, that it kept you from decaying in punishment tier, but that seems a bit unlikely over a year's time for the 25 game chat restriction to 14 day suspension level. Support would be the only ones who could give you that kind of information though.

As to whether toxicity should be limited to chat restrictions... not so much. Riot actually tried a program once before where it simply stacked chat restrictions, and some players were racking up thousands of games worth of restricted chat. They ended up resorting to inting and trolling when they weren't able to verbally abuse their teammates. So, if you put in a program where players know that they can say anything with zero fears of permanent repercussions, and you just give them more chat restrictions, there's nothing to stop them from doing exactly like the other players did... and resorting to more disruptive ways of ruining matches. It was bad enough that Riot had to shut the program down pretty quickly.

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