25 game chat ban

holyholylotus·Apr 23, 2018·1 votes·2,499 views

Hi All

I am curious how the chat ban works. I have a game with another two duos, I was adc, one of them is the support, the support is keeping trolling . I tried to be reasonable in the chat at first place, but he getting work in the game.. that get me angry. so finally I got 25 game chat ban, and they walked away freely.

So how does the punishment works. I am fine with the chat ban cause I use bad language in the game. but how do you push those people just trolling in the game and ruin others game?

Also how does the honor system work, I lost all the honor and down to lvl 1 and took me 4 month back, and duo to thse two people, my honor back to lvl1. So do you think this system is fair or not.

Regards

14 Comments

KarunamonApr 23, 20181 votes

The short answer on the punishment system is this:

http://tkwa.re/leaguereporttiers

You're currently at step 2 of 4. If somoene's trolling in game, you must mute them. Do not start flaming them yourself, you are just liable to get punished yourself.

You were punished for what you typed, not what anyone else did.

holyholylotusApr 23, 20182 votes

So the system will let people who ruined your game walk freely?

KarunamonApr 23, 20182 votes

What happens to them depends entirely on their profile, how toxic they usually are, the severity, etc. They might have just gotten their first 10 game chat ban.

Don't concern yourself too much with it; what happens on their account is between them and Riot.

holyholylotusApr 23, 20181 votes

So the system will detect the toxic behaviors and not playing properly in game? by how?

I am thinking LOL is for 5 men's game, so when you play solo queue, you have those trollers, and then how you can have a good experience?

KarunamonApr 23, 20181 votes

That's the problem - how do you write a system that catches players who are intentionally playing like crap, without catching anyone who's just bad at the game?

A dedicated troll can play like crap in a way that's not obvious.

ChermorgApr 23, 20181 votes

Their activity is their account and is judged completely separately from your behavior.

If it can be proven they were intentionally trolling/feeding, or toxic in chat, they will be punished.

ZezilianApr 23, 20181 votes

Short answer yes. You might have a feeling that your experience is being ruined by "troll" but the one who's "trolling" might feel he is having fun and enjoys his game play. Having fun is the primal goal by RITO. There are no rules for "trolling".

ps. Don't worry, the player base of LOL if shrinking already. You also might enjoy F2P fortnite.

ElserathApr 23, 20181 votes

ya the problem with that is the person doing the trolling never gets banned. The punishment system needs to have more dedicated riot employees to work out the problems. There are many flaws in that so called SYSTEM you linked.

KarunamonApr 23, 20181 votes

They will get banned if they continue to act out.

I'll agree with you completely that Riot's system increases the overall amount of toxicity in the game because they give anywhere from 2 to 4 chances (more, actually, if we count the games that are stored with no action taken) before finally dropping the hammer on someone, but they're hell bent on reforming players rather than keeping the rift clean.

It's like the anti-cheat system used in other games.. they let the cheaters (and botters) ruin many more games than they would otherwise be allowed to ruin from acting quicker.

At the very least, I'd advocate a token punishment with no honor loss the very first time someone gets a valid report, rather than them sitting on a stack of reports before issuing a 10 game CR.

Silent GravityApr 23, 20182 votes

A very cautious estimate of the manpower required to manually review every report is 225,000 full time employees. In reality you would need more.

That would make Riot the 24th largest employer in America.

ElserathApr 23, 20181 votes

Honestly man i feel ya. I have the same issues with riot and there report system. Your best not to say anything because riot is not good at actually reading the chat logs and understand who the problem in the game was. They can say they dont but all they do is look at whos got the most reports. I just got a 25 game chat ban for something similar were the other person started being toxic , harrased me and all i did was defend myself upon him without cursing or insults and i ended up with the ban. Ill prolly get some riot employee hate but they do not do a good job banning the right people nor do they take the time to make sure everyone gets punished. Thats one of a few things riot doesnt do right and eventually will be there downfall. My advice to you friend is to stick only to solo/duo que because your chances of getting chat banned or finding players that are great at getting at you happens in flex que when they que up with 2 other people. So then they get there freinds to report you and thats 3 reports on you vs 1 person. But yes i do understand your trouble. The proper people go unpunished and it doesnt seem to change so i wish you good luck in your future games and just mute your whole team until riot fixes this issue. Good luck on the rift

KarunamonApr 23, 20181 votes

They can say they dont but all they do is look at whos got the most reports.

False. One report triggers an review of the player. Extra reports do nothing useful.

all i did was defend myself

Defended yourself. From words on a screen. How does that work?

How you actually defend yourself from words on a screen is typing the command or clicking the button that renders those words invisible.

PhieldworkerApr 23, 20181 votes

I have had multiple people receive punishments through reporting. My rule is try and defuse whoever is raging/trolling. If they continue I just mute and then report after if I feel like the person’s behavior wasn’t just a one time thing. Everyone has their off games (had 3 good games and 3 bad ones) but if they are just negative the whole time on purpose don’t engage and just mute and report.

ZezilianApr 23, 20181 votes

Trolling doesn't exist in LOL, apart of Trundle. Trolling is a game play and valid. Being toxic is punishable while trolling is not considered as toxicity.