you have no argument to defend why it's good it doesn't work and only tortures new players when banned players make new accounts.
Except new players mostly don't get matched with smurfs. The MMR system has that side effect.
This is just a lie and you know it. Tribunal doesn't affect anyone's ability to have fun as it doesn't affect people who leave, people who feed on purpose, people who troll lanes.
I'll admit it. You are right in this. The feeder buster (non official name) system is terrible. I said I wouldn't get into the deep learning algorithms, but arguments sake I will. Because of the insane amount of reports made Riot couldn't feasably review all of them. They had to teach a computer to detect inting. To do this they used a deep learning algorithm. It takes in data form Riot, the community and it's own observations. It has to learn what inting looked like, and what seperates it from players randomly having bad games.
It has an underlying fault. The communty bombards it with false reports, which messes up it's data. It's developement is waaaay slower than optimal. Though, if Riot does figure out a way to stop the false data, it will learn faster. But untill then you are 100% right (about this).
You can pretend all you want that riot int reports do anything but they don't only language and even that is a temporary and minor solution if that. And anyone banned for cursing isn't going to just give up and leave from there.
I don't get the 'but they don't only language part', but anyone banned for cursing would be an idiot to spend more money on the game. That is unless they change their behaviour.
That's a blatantly lie there is a large history of games with no moderation that do fine, CoD was a perfect example. Dota is a good example. Heroes of the storm etc. None of them have a serious banning route like league and they all do fine financially.
All those games have moderation.
But if that's how you really feel, why not play one of those games?
That way, the ones who like the moderation part can play League.
Hearthstone has one of the most toxic communities i've ever seen.
But that's opt-in. You actively have to accepts someones invite.
League also generally doesn't moderate chat from the friends-chat. Only the life threathingly serious stuff gets moderated, if so the reciever wishes.
The player that hates playing with assholes. Because he in itself is a worthless little hypocritical asshole himself. What makes you more of an asshole? Hitting mute and moving on with your life? Or crying to riot because someone said "fuck you" so you desperately need the self satisfaction of getting someone's account banned and having them lose money to begin with.
You don't get banned for saying 'fuck you'. You start out by getting chat restricted. If you get chat-restricted you would know that Riot doesn't accept your behaviour, and then continuing to express that behaviour is just a stupid thing to do.
And by this ban and knowing what they know. Riot is DIRECTLY forcing you to spend money.
I keep seeing people say this. It's incredible that Riot has a magic force that makes all banned players spend money.
You actively make the choice to give them money. They don't force anyone.
This is not only a lie but a delusional statement. Riot does NOT have to care about it's players to receive money. If someone likes a game and hates the company they will still give that company money. It's been proven by bigger companies many times over.
I can see the point man. I agree with you on this one. My argument was weak.
I'll back it up:
Riot cares about the normal players. They don't care about the toxic players. They don't HAVE to care about normal players, but they do. They give normal players tons of free experiences. You mention bigger companies, so you should know that bigger companies don't get lazy when it comes to making money. If the system would make MORE money if it was radically different, then I promise you, they would change it.
Tribunal is a failed system. There's a reason why Riot has a lot of hate based towards it.
I have kinda been going with you misnaming the IFS as the tribunal as it's very minor. Apparently it did give a problem. Yes, Riot hates the tribunal. It didn't work, but it was retired. The tribunal was a place where regular players could vote on chatlogs on if they warranted a punishment or not.
What resulted was a slow, inconsisten, terrible system. This is why you see Riot discourage it. The new IFS system is the algorithm system where it's handled by a computer. Riot does not discourage this one.
Your posts are probably just silly just like your arguments here was. You have proven nothing other than my point that the most toxic people are the ones who desperately cling to the minor power they have from tribunal to ban players. 100% as intended? Try 10% and try a pathetic solution when there are plenty of better solutions that anyone could easily think of.
Post them. Make your better solution. Not to me though, I really don't feel like debating you.
You make countless posts about this because you know damn well we're right and you need to desperately defend this busted system so you can feel better about yourself. That makes you the biggest idiot of them all. I wouldn't be shocked if you weren't a Riot undercover just desperate to defend your lies.
And now we're making conspiracy theories? This is partly why I don't feel like. You insult me because I disagree with you. I can't debate that.
If this system worked and toxicity was being curbed, why would anyone complain in the first place? And why would tribunal be "needed" so badly?
Because people disagree. That is what these boards are for.
Also let's just break down what you just said:
If the IFS is effective at removing toxicity, why would we need it badly?
We need it because it's effective.
The truth is if players were told to just mute people who insult them, the game would continue on and nothing would change. Except people leveling up for the first time would deal with less toxic players.
And when the players that insult other figure out they've been muted, they start inting. (Sometimes. Not always, obviously).
Your logical is fallacy based on delusion and fanboy voyeurism it holds no substantial presence in real life.
You logical fallacy is conspiracy theories. Thinking im secretly on your side. ("You know it's a lie"). If we ignore your "You're a Rioter conspiracy, then why would I try to defend a system I know didn't work? That just seems stupid.
I can't debate you, when you think i'm delusional.
And to follow up with your "Riot doesn't force you to spend money" They kind of do.
How????
Even a normal game can be incredibly frustrating. People are human and Riot doesn't hold any regard to that belief. They say everyone has bad days but you can get banned for 3 bad games. merely 3 in a row.
Definently. But if this is the case, contact their support and a human being will look into it. They will unban any falsely banned accounts. And I dare you to find me a single case of a account getting falsely banned. (According to a scenario similar to the one you described.)
