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A Dead Champion··1 votes·972 views

So this is my entire chat log for 3 games, that I was deemed toxic enough to receive a 25 game chat restriction for. I clearly do not understand what is and isn't toxic so I'm requesting authentic help. From what I see the use of Autistic and the word Retard are the offensive parts but if there is other stuff please help me recognize what about the way I speak to others in game, regardless of whether its provoked or not.

Game 1 A Dead Champion: he won't need leash glazed A Dead Champion: are you playing passive or harass anivia A Dead Champion: then medalion was a bad start A Dead Champion: just keep pushing in A Dead Champion: more active jungle A Dead Champion: gg A Dead Champion: shaco does nothing A Dead Champion: we really shouldn't try that hard anivia we're going to be pressured all game and shaco's just going to blow A Dead Champion: pray top and mid carry A Dead Champion: well with no jungle presence bot 1st tower's done A Dead Champion: roam anivia useless to defend A Dead Champion: well shaco can't even box a zonya'd tf A Dead Champion: shaco is autistic he won't help anyone A Dead Champion: please report our shaco, he won't help any lane I go to because I beat him our previous game A Dead Champion: Well having no jungle presence when we've been ganked and roamed three times kind of makes you complain A Dead Champion: no they didn't A Dead Champion: But whatever A Dead Champion: tf no ult A Dead Champion: Sorry for your afk A Dead Champion: no exhaust A Dead Champion: we can hard engage A Dead Champion: lol gj anivia A Dead Champion: well fuck you too zed A Dead Champion: never help A Dead Champion: good dive A Dead Champion: Good game for a 4v5 wish two of my team mates weren't toxic Game 2 A Dead Champion: thanks zyra A Dead Champion: thanks zyra A Dead Champion: next time I let you die A Dead Champion: zyra's feeding please help A Dead Champion: that's what wards are for A Dead Champion: you take my cs, you do nothing, you use no summoners and you're useless A Dead Champion: pretty sure you're just autistic if you think you're supporting zyra A Dead Champion: well zyra's not a support so what did you want me to do, feed botlane or cover top? how about you pull your own weight mate? A Dead Champion: translation: I'm not as good as I thought I am, I'm going to take it out on you and have a petulant temper tantrum. and zyra I' A Dead Champion: zyra I'm reporting you, taking support when you aren't going to is griefing, and blaming me for ONE of the three deaths you cau A Dead Champion: zyra I'm reporting you, you're not a good person, you're an asshole who ruins the games they enter, you're talking so far out o Game 3 A Dead Champion: starting w cam A Dead Champion: poke harass win? A Dead Champion: you can cs and ks if you want A Dead Champion: just saying don't hesistate A Dead Champion: I wanted to grind ashe mastery A Dead Champion: but now I want to get this over with A Dead Champion: so much damage 4th shot A Dead Champion: no it was a fair bait we got their flashes and yi is near A Dead Champion: see A Dead Champion: jhin is pretty good ad not needing to be fed to be impactful A Dead Champion: true A Dead Champion: i never expect the smurfs A Dead Champion: wait for it A Dead Champion: this thresh is annoying A Dead Champion: gj A Dead Champion: jesus thresh's auto damage is insane A Dead Champion: j4 flash A Dead Champion: excuse me cam I'm conditioned by the screaming supports about leaving them to die A Dead Champion: yep A Dead Champion: our 1st tower is gone A Dead Champion: i'll try A Dead Champion: that was my fault missed my ults A Dead Champion: leave the tower its gone A Dead Champion: its every god damn time A Dead Champion: why are they camping A Dead Champion: and why isn't yi A Dead Champion: i don't think everyone on this team is a smurf A Dead Champion: yi A Dead Champion: you KNEW they were there A Dead Champion: why aren't you helping? A Dead Champion: sorry cam I can't deal with this A Dead Champion: lets just ff at 20 A Dead Champion: i don't think we're having fun A Dead Champion: we have no objective control A Dead Champion: i wish they had a ranged support A Dead Champion: my butthole clenched there A Dead Champion: graves why are you not helping!? A Dead Champion: no I'm not A Dead Champion: auto A Dead Champion: yeah no wonder riven's kicking your ass top A Dead Champion: I just got roamed and ganked A Dead Champion: constantly A Dead Champion: what a fucking idiot A Dead Champion: yi and graves both retarded A Dead Champion: i A Dead Champion: i give up I'm done with autistic 'smurfs' A Dead Champion: don't go in cam you'll get no support A Dead Champion: yeah about as expected A Dead Champion: half their team was missing and somehow we missed that A Dead Champion: right whatever A Dead Champion: defend the fucking tower not the fucking jungle A Dead Champion: stupid 'smurfs' A Dead Champion: elder now A Dead Champion: good shot calling A Dead Champion: you needed all four A Dead Champion: no one could of helped me A Dead Champion: we have FIVE damages A Dead Champion: well we're done A Dead Champion: yi once again throws everything

24 Comments

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

A Dead Champion: gg A Dead Champion: lets just ff at 20

Nobody that wants to win the game likes hearing that, it makes it sound like they can no longer rely on you to try. Just keep negativity like that to yourself so it doesn't affect your teammates.

A Dead Champion: please report our shaco

That and the other abusive comments you sent Shaco's way isn't going to make him play any better. Put yourself in his shoes; if you're doing bad you're probably already not having a good time, and your own teammates kicking you when you're down will probably make you play worse. If the Shaco is playing bad intentionally this is quite likely to make him redouble his efforts to troll and direct them at you. If at all possible, talk them down and motivate with positive reinforcement instead.

Specifically for this comment, it is important to note that threatening to report or lobbying to mass report a player is considered harassment and is punishable negative behavior. All reports do is flag their match for review; more reports can't make the system check their behavior any harder. The other players can make their own decisions to report based on what they see and feel should be reported.

Other than that, most of your chat is arguing and blaming teammates. This makes the game that much worse for everyone that has to listen to it, and distracts your own teammates from the game so that they play worse more than anything else. Just mute toxic players and try to focus on the game at hand. Communication can be done efficiently and effectively 99% of the time with just pings, so use those more instead. If you are going to say something that isn't useful or positive, consider just not saying anything.

A Dead Champion1 votes

Thank you for the sincere advice, though, when I mute it turns into ping spamming the ? mark whenever anything happens. I've tried not talking all together but the stress continues to build until it bursts into an episode. I'm at that level of league where everything I do besides winning and carrying is inting and trolling so it is very frustrating. I'd like to say I do sometimes say lets ff, but only when my entire team is already fighting I never initiate the FF or press it I just make the possibility known.

As far as the shaco, he was an opponent my last game which we won, so he and his trio of friends banned out every adc I selected in champ select intentionally, I couldn't make him play better because he didn't want to play better but I understand the criticism and appreciate it. I am not usually that negative.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Dead Champion,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=5A9z9bi0,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-04T10:08:07.878+0000) A Dead Champion: gg A Dead Champion: shaco does nothing A Dead Champion: we really shouldn't try that hard anivia we're going to be pressured all game and shaco's just going to blow

So, this is reportable but not as intense as some of your later stuff. Here you're putting the blame for the entire game on a single person. Sure, sometimes people have a bad game and throw it, but there's also a chance he was new to the character, having a bad day, or just not paying as close attention as you'd like. That doesn't give you the right to badmouth him.

A Dead Champion: shaco is autistic he won't help anyone

Instantly report-worthy. Firstly, it's a direct insult. Secondly, it's derogatory to everyone with that condition.

A Dead Champion: please report our shaco, he won't help any lane I go to because I beat him our previous game

Asking people to report a teammate isn't really cool. Again, this is borderline stuff, but with the rest this pushes it over.

A Dead Champion: zyra's feeding please help A Dead Champion: you take my cs, you do nothing, you use no summoners and you're useless A Dead Champion: pretty sure you're just autistic if you think you're supporting zyra

A combination of the above. Accusations of being useless AND the same insults.

A Dead Champion: what a fucking idiot A Dead Champion: yi and graves both retarded A Dead Champion: i A Dead Champion: i give up I'm done with autistic 'smurfs'

More derogatory insults directed at other players.

A Dead Champion: yi once again throws everything

And more accusations laying blame for an entire game on one person.

Now, the potentially useful part.

Firstly, remember that everyone (yourself and myself included) have bad games. No one likes to be called out for it in a negative fashion. There's a WORLD of difference between "Hey Shaco -- I'm struggling a bit top, but I think we can kill him if you pop up here before he backs. Want to give me a hand?" and "gg Shaco is awful and never ganks."

Secondly, if ranting at teammates helps you feel better (and it does help some people), consider doing so out loud or to friends on an external chat client instead of through the in-game chat. I know I have a friend who has a temper issue, and instead of snapping at teammates I've encouraged him to whisper me messages if he wants to talk. It means I get more messages through the client along the lines of "I can't believe this Lee Sin," but it also means that everyone in his game is less subject to his frustration.

But, thirdly and most importantly, remember that you alone get to control your responses. A lot of your typing other than simple information (like "TF no flash" etc) tends to be complaining or belittling or insulting. That's a negative atmosphere at best, and a toxic one at worse. I'd recommend trying a few games where you set your communication goals to be only encouraging, informative, friendly, and constructive. It's a good habit to get into, and I can promise you that, from my own experience, being able to be that player that brings a team together can not only defuse toxic situations but can ALSO decrease the likelihood of finding them in the first place.

Heck, you'll even make some friends you wouldn't have made, and win some games you should have lost because now, instead of everyone being frustrated at each other, they're willing to work as a team, share responsibility, and unify to pull off some great plays.

If you'd like to chat more, or have any questions, or want any specific tips, let me know. The fact that you're taking this step is already a really good leap in the right direction, and if I can help you improve further I'd love to offer my assistance.

A Dead Champion1 votes

Thanks for the help, regardless of whether it was provoked or not your outlining of the offending comments was helpful, I would appreciate as I'm a rather brutally honest person in life and I don't hold back in telling people what I think, its gotten me in trouble in league quite a lot but I'm always trying. I'd rather not have any negative thing to say but when people behave in ways that ruin my game "Intentionally slighting me for whatever reason, trolling, deciding to abandon lane if I ask them not to take cs politely" ect so dealing with accepting other people's selfish behavior is a difficult thing for me to come to terms with.

As far as the making friends bit, I'd honestly rather just play an effective game, the entire social aspect of league is secondary to the mechanical aspect for me as a person. I'm not exactly what you would called Socially Inclined.

Incarceration1 votes

How about you just shut up and play the game? Maybe you would be banned less? FFS

A Dead Champion1 votes

I've never been banned your assumption comes from a mixture of your own ignorance and the expectation that anyone seeking aid is seeking to overturn a ban. Educate yourself more and read the request for constructive criticism people like you are why we can't have civil discussion.

Incarceration1 votes

The only reason why I am not having a "civil discussion" is because my point is simple, and I don't think arguing with you will really make you and me learn anything.

I've been chat restricted for 10 games, but was only given two games worth of chat logs. Now I barely talk in chat because I focus on my gameplay. Unless it's really getting to the point where people are getting on my nerves, I just make one comment and keep quiet for the whole game.

A Dead Champion1 votes

it's not an argument someone reached their hand out for help and you spat on it.

Incarceration1 votes

The solution is that simple. Of course it's not an argument, it's a solution. I basically gave my card to you and you ripped it, claiming that it didn't have enough phone numbers.

A Dead Champion1 votes

You must not be aware of how patronizing and condescending you sound, so I'll inform you, its not simple for people with anger control issues, or emotional issues, or mental issues, or people who weren't raised to bite their tongue. Its a learning experience for anyone who isn't acceptably social. Again, your statements come from a mixture of ignorance and assumption. You are not helping anyone by being haughty as if you've sole figured out the cure to toxicity in games, sometimes people don't know what they're doing is toxic, sometimes they just need to be made aware of "hey" this here Underlines the reason Is bad don't do it. Of course someone might claim common sense but depending on the upbringing and social nature of the individual case there is no commonality between the two. Please, stop replying to this if you've nothing intelligent or constructive. STFU is not a strategy, it s a bandaid that leads to a bigger episode, may work for you but not for all.

Incarceration1 votes

You haven't even tried it. I have my own issues even though it's less extreme. I still get pissed off, and become stubborn, but just simply think about it. This is a game, people aren't smart for shit, people can tilt, and the only reliable carry is yourself. All people have common sense to a degree, and if you really think about how hard people can tilt, then you figure out what to say and what to do. We all lose control, but just think about it. Take some time off and figure it out.

A Dead Champion1 votes

How about this, you have no idea what I've tried and haven't tried, and again you offer no intelligent insight, you just preach as if its gospel. I'm not taking time off, I'm not going to follow your assinine instructions, I'm going to consider the people who responded in helpful means and ignore you completely.

Incarceration1 votes

They just answered your question on how you are being toxic. I'm giving you a solution to stop being toxic. It's that fucking simple, and yet, you still have the audacity to tell me that you won't take my advice because it wasn't something you considered "helpful means". You're just acting like an imbecile at this point, especially when you are just asking on how you were being toxic because you couldn't fking shut up, and you had to make a vast amount of comments that you and me know are extremely toxic. You asked us for help to stop being toxic, I gave you a solution. If you don't want to try it, don't, but don't come back to me, claiming that my advice is bullshit.

A Dead Champion1 votes

Swearing really sells your argument about how you aren't toxic and people should consider your advice.[slayer-jinx-catface]

Incarceration1 votes

Compare that to your chat logs, and that's why it works.

A Dead Champion1 votes

Well I know I've been toxic and am trying to reform, what's your excuse?

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

This is a great opportunity to put into practice ignore people that are trying to stir up trouble. Just don't respond and they typically go away.

A Dead Champion1 votes

Thanks. As you see my flaws are pretty apparent when people just intentionally spoil the mood of things.

Incarceration1 votes

I've already reformed. And that isn't an excuse.

The Wind Blade1 votes

unreformed player deserves permanent ban

A Dead Champion1 votes

I asked for constructive criticism this is neither, do you feel the necessity to spew hatred and bile everywhere you go, or simply at me?

The Wind Blade1 votes

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I asked for constructive criticism this is neither, do you feel the necessity to spew hatred and bile everywhere you go, or simply at me?

neither would imply two things but constructive criticism is one nice

A Dead Champion1 votes

It is neither constructive nor criticism it is opinion. keep up sunshine.

The Wind Blade1 votes

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It is neither constructive nor criticism it is opinion. keep up sunshine.

what are you talking about? r u okay? upset that ur toxic?

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