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The Aggravation Caused from Lack of Control

BigONotation·12/29/2015, 9:42:04 PM·2 votes·891 views

There are some things that are not controllable. One of those things is solo queue and you get matched with nasty toxic people. There are plenty of examples that people already know about and have come into conflict with on their own so I will just give one simple situation: The person that is playing mid is not doing well in his lane and notices that the jg is hyper focused on killing things in the jg. The mid player gets mad that they(mid) keep dying so they begin to harass their jg for not helping them and telling them it is their fault that we are losing. Other team members (possibly from the same group chime in) One of them says enemy jg > our jg; Another says it isn't jg's fault that mid is not doing well. Then to make matters even worse, the unaware enemy team's jg does an all chat stating that our jg is slow at farming.

I am the jg in this story. I was not feeding the enemy team. I was not causing the mid lane to fail and feed. Somehow I turned into the reason that we were not winning the game. There is not much one can do in a situation like this. If I mute the rest of my team there are multiple problems that can arise from doing just that. The toxic teammates could proceed to report me for not communicating and at the same time I want to keep communication strong to win the game, even if that means dealing with this toxicity. ALL control is gone at this point. There is literally nothing anybody can do in this situation to make it less miserable other than learning to accept the fact they are going to most likely lose the game and be reported by the true toxic people. I see several problems with this scenario.

There must be some way to punish those who are truly ruining the game by their behavior. The only way to avoid this is to A) Not Solo Queue OR B) Not Play the Game.

I would love to hear how others feel on this subject, thank you all for taking the time to read this and I look forward to hearing your advice/opinions.

19 Comments

Deep Terror Nami12/29/2015, 10:00:49 PM4 votes

There will always be toxic people and trolls. Most people are toxic to some degree, some just more so and/or more frequently than others.

Just because someone is a bit toxic in your match doesn't necessarily mean they need to be punished to keep them from ever doing it again. This is where reports come in; over time they establish a pattern of a player's behavior. If the community is largely against their behavior and they do it often (so will likely continue doing so) then they need to be punished to some degree. Most people change after that first punishment (whether it's because they realize they were wrong, or they simply don't want to get punished again is irrelevant to the community).

Basically, it takes time to determine if they will likely keep acting that way without punishment. Punishing everyone for their first minor offense would be really demoralizing to the entire community because as I mentioned before, everyone slips up.

The problem here is the perception that these people get away with it, but that's a fallacy; seeing one person misbehave does not mean he has not or will not be punished, and definitely does not mean that others haven't. Perception is reality, so you just have to step back and look at the system as a whole rather than every isolated event. Also important to note is "Negativity Bias", in which people have the tendency to remember negative experiences far more than positive and neutral ones.

As for dealing with an immediate situation (as opposed to getting a person to reform later), you gotta use that mute button. Tell them their negative attitude is not helping the game any and please focus; if they decide harassment is their preferred option, just mute and report them. Strangers you'll never see again are not worth getting upset over. Sometimes they want to get you upset, so the best course of action is to not let them have that satisfaction.

Lastly, Refusal to Communicate was never a punishable offense. You are encourage to mute people if you don't want to listen to their negativity. Riot even removed that report option. Please, feel free to use that mute function liberally. Just don't respond to them if it'll make it worse.

Dooby Doob12/30/2015, 12:39:56 AM2 votes

You know what I do when league starts pissing me off and putting me in a worse mood than when i started playing? I click the x at the top right of the client click yes and don't look back. League isn't a job we don't have to play it and shouldn't if it isn't fun.

Chroud12/29/2015, 9:46:21 PM1 votes

At what point did you attempt ganks ? Fair questions because if you waited tell 6 with no presence in any lane your in the jungle to long. I guess im asking for more info on your jungler match. Also what champ were you?

AyRe CoNteMpT12/29/2015, 9:52:40 PM1 votes

"hey cool let me play this 5on5 game because its fun to play with a team"

  • 1 year later

"i hate my life and other human beings mimimimimi"

in the end, you cant control the outcome of every single game but if you play PERFECT, you have a 95% winrate and rank 1 korean challenger. this is actually very good news because it proves that you will most likely win every game you deserve to win and if you lose, you probably deserved to lose too, even if it feels unfair.

PS: oh yeah, and you were playing pantheon haha. there you go.

TeemoJenkins12/29/2015, 10:00:00 PM1 votes

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/65583270#matches/2052403634 . . . can you link the match you're referring to? Based on the stats in this game it looks like a FF@20... but MF was fed... Blitz was still running flawless... Fed Ori would be a non-factor with an MF ult wrecking her face, and with a Xin to peel against Jax... you had a winning comp. I don't think we're getting the full story.

EvilDustMan12/29/2015, 10:10:43 PM1 votes

In this case, you wouldn't have gotten punished and you should have reported the Zed.