Unnecessary Permaban

Mid Or Feeeedd··3 votes·630 views

I was playing a match as Kindred Jungle, and was playing pretty badly. My whole entire team started getting tilted and flamed me for the whole entire game. After the match I was reported by everyone who thought I was inting. I admitted to feeding, but I never intended on doing so. Most of the time I kept dying from trying to counter jungle my stacks, but I also kept pushing and getting multiple towers and even pushed into mid inhibitor. I don't think my permaban was necessary as I was just playing like I belonged in Plastic V.

Chat Logs

Game 1
Mid Or Feeeedd: sorry was watching youtube
Mid Or Feeeedd: didn't realize we were in
Mid Or Feeeedd: 3 for 3
Mid Or Feeeedd: trist fed
Mid Or Feeeedd: freaking minions
Mid Or Feeeedd: rip zac
Mid Or Feeeedd: chill it's norms
Mid Or Feeeedd: lmao
Mid Or Feeeedd: you're blind trist
Mid Or Feeeedd: I ganked mid once
Mid Or Feeeedd: you never asked for a gank anyways
Mid Or Feeeedd: Team is toxic af lol
Mid Or Feeeedd: other than akali
Mid Or Feeeedd: he he ecks dee
Mid Or Feeeedd: tilting the nautilus
Mid Or Feeeedd: report nautilus toxic in norms
Mid Or Feeeedd: I'm technically 6/9
Mid Or Feeeedd: How
Mid Or Feeeedd: So
Mid Or Feeeedd: Just cuz our names are mid or feed doesn't mean it's true
Mid Or Feeeedd: just a salty team looking for someone to blaem
Mid Or Feeeedd: blame*
Mid Or Feeeedd: ff
Mid Or Feeeedd: too late
Mid Or Feeeedd: not our consequence
Mid Or Feeeedd: your fault for being toxic
Mid Or Feeeedd: team is so salty they didn't ff in attempts to try and give us "consequences"
Mid Or Feeeedd: first time kindred :P
Mid Or Feeeedd: just testing out mechanics
Mid Or Feeeedd: no thanks
Mid Or Feeeedd: gj toxic trash
Mid Or Feeeedd: lol
Mid Or Feeeedd: points out my kda
Mid Or Feeeedd: never said u were
Mid Or Feeeedd: your loss if u don't ff
Mid Or Feeeedd: not our problem lol
Mid Or Feeeedd: Report Nautilus toxic af
Mid Or Feeeedd: Mad over norms
Mid Or Feeeedd: excessive aggression towards a non-competitive game mode
Mid Or Feeeedd: I didn't int, this nautilus is just tilted because they suck
Mid Or Feeeedd: lmao no
Mid Or Feeeedd: I'll admit that I'm excessively feeding
Mid Or Feeeedd: not trying to die tho
Mid Or Feeeedd: cuz no one wants to intentionally spend 30 seconds respawning
Mid Or Feeeedd: I can still 1v1 zac lol
Mid Or Feeeedd: fizz just came in and fucked me up
Mid Or Feeeedd: k im gonna focus on split pushing with my ult
Mid Or Feeeedd: cuz I can't fight
Mid Or Feeeedd: I got stack tho :P
Mid Or Feeeedd: gg
Mid Or Feeeedd: gg ez pz
Mid Or Feeeedd: all me
Mid Or Feeeedd: i carried

26 Comments

Lightning I2 votes

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Lightning I2 votes

I SWEAR TO GOD SOMEONE JUST KEEPS DOWNVOTING EVERYTHING I POST IN

Umbral Regent1 votes

Well, even disregarding the part where you admitted to "feeding" - which, by the way, I would never call it "feeding", more just getting beat - you are pretty aggressive towards your teammates and all around kind of a jerk - especially that bit at the end:

Mid Or Feeeedd: gg ez pz Mid Or Feeeedd: all me Mid Or Feeeedd: i carried

If this is following a fourteen day ban, then the permaban was indeed necessary.

Mid Or Feeeedd2 votes

Everyone knew it as a joke though, Zac even replied "lol" after we won.

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

Cuz we all knew that I fed and me saying I carried would be ironic

Umbral Regent2 votes

Regardless of it being a joke or not and whether or not everyone was aware of that much, it still caps off a fairly negative, and, unfortunately punishable chat log.

Which, leads me to ask rather than state; was this following a fourteen-day ban?

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

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Regardless of it being a joke or not and whether or not everyone was aware of that much, it still caps off a fairly negative, and, unfortunately punishable chat log.

Which, leads me to ask rather than state; was this following a fourteen-day ban?

No, I haven't gotten a fourteen day ban at all. Or not one that I know of.

Umbral Regent2 votes

If that's the case, then you'll want to submit a ticket to Player Support asking for a review of the permaban - escalated punishments often only occur from gameplay-related toxicity (actual intentional feeding/griefing/trolling) or zero-tolerance chat (hate speech, encouragements of self-harm, etc.)

When you submit the support ticket, be sure to outline the situation clearly - tell them that you were unduly punished with a permanent suspension, which likely may have occurred from a mistaken escalation (likely tipped off from the admitted "feeding"), and that you understand the chat log is still punishable, but not quite to the degree that was issued due to your not having intentionally fed, and there not being any particularly bad chat.

And, of course, be patient when waiting for a response. It may take some time for them to look the case over, but they will do their best to keep you updated on it.

Hope you get your punishment lowered to an appropriate tier, and I thank you for being honest with me. Good luck!

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4s2YG6A5,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-22T00:18:45.557+0000)

If that's the case, then you'll want to submit a ticket to Player Support asking for a review of the permaban - escalated punishments often only occur from gameplay-related toxicity (actual intentional feeding/griefing/trolling) or zero-tolerance chat (hate speech, encouragements of self-harm, etc.)

When you submit the support ticket, be sure to outline the situation clearly - tell them that you were unduly punished with a permanent suspension, which likely may have occurred from a mistaken escalation (likely tipped off from the admitted "feeding"), and that you understand the chat log is still punishable, but not quite to the degree that was issued due to your not having intentionally fed, and there not being any particularly bad chat.

And, of course, be patient when waiting for a response. It may take some time for them to look the case over, but they will do their best to keep you updated on it.

Hope you get your punishment lowered to an appropriate tier, and I thank you for being honest with me. Good luck!

Thank you

Warios1 votes

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Everyone knew it as a joke though, Zac even replied "lol" after we won.

Looks like someone didn't and pressed the report button at the end of the game.

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

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Looks like someone didn't and pressed the report button at the end of the game.

Because everyone still thought I was inting

Volibears Keeper1 votes

Waiting for Riot Tantrum to summoner 11 this dude.

No 14 day ban?

No hate speech?

Semi-clean logs?

OP lying.

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

I did hate speech cuz I couldn't take being ridiculed of intentionally feeding, but I too was being victimized from hate speech for the whole entire game

Volibears Keeper1 votes

did you remove that from your chat logs?

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

I can't get any other chat logs from other people cuz the permaban only shows what I said and makes me look like I was the only person flaming

Volibears Keeper1 votes

it doesn't matter what anyone else said. you control your own behavior.

Posting fake posts like this with altered chat logs that hide how toxic you were wont solve anything. Riot Tantrum will usually appear in here and post your real chat logs anyways. Then you just look dumb for lying.

If you're really innocent, put in a player support ticket.

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

I already did put in a support ticket. And I didn't edit the chat logs either. If you want I'll send you screenshots of the chat log

Umbral Regent1 votes

It's a general rule that other player's actions don't excuse your own - two wrongs don't make a right, after all.

That said, I think you may have misinterpreted Volibears Keeper's comment - googling up Hate Speech definition provides this:

Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender.

You seem to have mistaken what Volibears Keeper said, as you referred to your flaming as though it were hate speech - which, thankfully for you, it isn't.

I hope my assumption is on the mark, and I also hope that it clears things up for both sides.

braindead eboy1 votes

You handled the situation well, i'm sure riot will unban you, but your name probably needs a change.

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

Yeah I use this name as a cover up for when I feed in every single lane because I suck :D

braindead eboy1 votes

It looks like you are demanding mid with your name pal.

o brigid o2 votes

honestly these names have been around for years and at least in my games, everyone seems to take them as the joke they are meant to be.

i wouldn't immediately assume a player with "________ or feed" was going to int.

braindead eboy1 votes

Ah I wasn't aware, I guess i wasn't around for that time in league.

o brigid o1 votes

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Mid Or Feeeedd: you're blind trist Mid Or Feeeedd: report nautilus toxic in norms Mid Or Feeeedd: gj toxic trash Mid Or Feeeedd: Report Nautilus toxic af Mid Or Feeeedd: Mad over norms Mid Or Feeeedd: excessive aggression towards a non-competitive game mode Mid Or Feeeedd: I didn't int, this nautilus is just tilted because they suck

These are all things in your chat log that wouldn't get you banned if this was your first offense since they are pretty mild and none are considered zero tolerance triggers, but if your account has a history of negative behavior and punishments and the system sees that you are consistently getting reported every few games, this could easily put you over the edge. You call your teammates blind and trash, you say they suck, and you ask for reports... which 1) you don't need to do bc just one report gets the game flagged for review and 2) is considered harassment.

So no, I wouldn't say this game alone is ban worthy (even though you sound like a douche in it), but this game on top of a history of toxicity? Yeah. Yeah it is.

Mid Or Feeeedd1 votes

I've only had one chatban, do you think that put me over the edge?

o brigid o2 votes

If that is true and this was the only chatlog you received, I'm a little surprised you went from a chat restriction to a permaban. It seems like you skipped a step or two in their punishment system.

https://i.imgur.com/ACZhFYu.png

I recommend you submit a support ticket and ask for clarity. All we can do here as members of the community (even the mods), is explain to you where you went wrong. We can't know for sure what all was considered in your ban. Occasionally, if a permaban was made in error, you can get it reversed.

Good luck. I hope you're able to get some understanding about the situation from the support staff :)

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