Am I in the wrong here?

Dubya99·Nov 4, 2016·1 votes·955 views

So as a recently "reformed player" I need to ask this. I've gotten banned plenty of times so I tried not being toxic and bam it worked. I don't type anything in chat. Ever. Even if I get flamed, never feed anymore etc, it's hard as fucking hell but I do it. However in this situation what do you think?

So I usually just play "non meta picks" like adc mid and top and all that and lots of times I don't do good because of it and I get blamed and I guess you can say some games are my fault however I'm not trolling. This is obviously ranked but lower elo. You don't even want to know what my win rate is with them is.

Now I know it isn't against the rules to play non meta but like someone said to me "it's being selfish". If you are wondering why don't I play adc bot lane it's because I don't like dealing with supports and prefer solo.

And ofc I get reported all the time for "trolling"

27 Comments

Hambone2013Nov 4, 20166 votes

Yes and no. Always check if your team is OK with it. If they aren't then you're bring selfish if they are go for it. Remember it's a team game and it starts is champion select.

eldurisNov 4, 20164 votes

Yeah, typically non-meta picks are alright, like taking Mordekaiser in a duo bot lane. But if you're doing something like going solo bot, always check with your team first. It's good to have everyone on the same page with stuff like this because of how easily it can be interpreted as simply trolling.

Great MutaNov 4, 20163 votes

it's hard as fucking hell but I do it.

Isn't it though? The system legit asks you to act like Barney the Dinosaur in order to survive.

Most people aren't going to be happy if you pick off meta picks, even in norms, and that's myself included. I'm honestly probably reporting you for negative attitude for doing it and if you do bad, it's going to be intentional feeding for me.

Azure HamsterNov 4, 20163 votes

"If you are wondering why don't I play adc bot lane it's because I don't like dealing with supports and prefer solo."

Then just learn real mid/top/jg champs. Then you can play solo AND not piss off your teams. Best of both worlds, really.

I stay botlane partially because I like the 2v2 mechanics, but I can understand why someone would not like that. But if that's the case, you really should learn to play closer to meta to avoid friction with your teams. Or play normals. Either way, in ranked, I'm trying to improve my rank, and losing because someone is playing Jinx Jungle (happened recently) is really upsetting.

Caitlyn

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azure Hamster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4TvWQOKj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-11-04T18:19:29.230+0000)

"If you are wondering why don't I play adc bot lane it's because I don't like dealing with supports and prefer solo."

Then just learn real mid/top/jg champs. Then you can play solo AND not piss off your teams. Best of both worlds, really.

I stay botlane partially because I like the 2v2 mechanics, but I can understand why someone would not like that. But if that's the case, you really should learn to play closer to meta to avoid friction with your teams. Or play normals. Either way, in ranked, I'm trying to improve my rank, and losing because someone is playing Jinx Jungle (happened recently) is really upsetting.

I can play other champs. The point is I would rather play a adc mid. That is my point and I prefer solo instead of getting a horrendous support. Also in normals everyone just fucks around and doesn't care

Azure HamsterNov 4, 20162 votes

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I can play other champs. The point is I would rather play a adc mid. That is my point and I prefer solo instead of getting a horrendous support. Also in normals everyone just fucks around and doesn't care

Playing ADC mid is "fucking around and not caring" because it's off-meta. As the one guy said, if your team is ok with it, go ahead. But forcing it on people in ranked is not cool. You even admit your win rates are low.

Caitlyn

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azure Hamster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4TvWQOKj,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-11-04T19:41:25.387+0000)

Playing ADC mid is "fucking around and not caring" because it's off-meta. As the one guy said, if your team is ok with it, go ahead. But forcing it on people in ranked is not cool. You even admit your win rates are low.

I guess you could say that however I am trying to win, people in normal will pick all meta, be up 50-10 and ff since "it's just norms"

I think there is a difference.

Azure HamsterNov 4, 20161 votes

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I guess you could say that however I am trying to win, people in normal will pick all meta, be up 50-10 and ff since "it's just norms"

I think there is a difference.

That's not my experience in normals at all. I see weirder picks there, or people learning new champs. But people not trying to win is still just the occasional troll, and I see that in both types of games. I'd also argue that picking ADC mid despite your cited low win rates is "not trying to win".

Caitlyn

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azure Hamster,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4TvWQOKj,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-04T20:03:29.259+0000)

That's not my experience in normals at all. I see weirder picks there, or people learning new champs. But people not trying to win is still just the occasional troll, and I see that in both types of games. I'd also argue that picking ADC mid despite your cited low win rates is "not trying to win".

I had a game where we dominated then my teammates started to jerk off and stop attacking the enemy and we lost. On purpose of course. And when I used to feed when my teammate banned my pic I said I was going to feed and someone just says "it's just normals, who cares?"

ShinkoMinoriNov 4, 20162 votes

Trollpicking is reportable. Going adc mid when the rest of your team is ad is trollpicking.

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

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Trollpicking is reportable. Going adc mid when the rest of your team is ad is trollpicking.

Where does it say that? Because I want to know.

ShinkoMinoriNov 4, 20161 votes

Its on the summoners code. It specifically says picking according to your team needs.

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

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Its on the summoners code. It specifically says picking according to your team needs.

Ok, well can you give any other cases of bans for non meta picks? Like mine? no right?

ShinkoMinoriNov 4, 20161 votes

The summoner code says you should rather pick something you don't know how to play than something you want to play but your team needs otherwise. Meaning non meta picks are trolling if your team needs you to be meta.

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

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The summoner code says you should rather pick something you don't know how to play than something you want to play but your team needs otherwise. Meaning non meta picks are trolling if your team needs you to be meta.

So that's a no correct? I'll keep you updated then if anything happens.

R18Nov 4, 20163 votes

It's not bannable, but you're an asshole for doing it in ranked.

OglafNov 4, 20163 votes

I'd say you are pretty much part of the cancer that is eating away at LoL, yes.

ReadyxPlayerxOneNov 4, 20162 votes

Yes. You're wrong. Play bot games if you want to do whatever you feel like. When you play with other people against a live team you're basically handing the game to the other team if you're playing off meta AND doing it poorly.

Off Meta can work... it can... but if you're feeding, it doesn't matter what champ you're on or what lane you're in. If you lose the lane it's your fault.

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

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Yes. You're wrong. Play bot games if you want to do whatever you feel like. When you play with other people against a live team you're basically handing the game to the other team if you're playing off meta AND doing it poorly.

Off Meta can work... it can... but if you're feeding, it doesn't matter what champ you're on or what lane you're in. If you lose the lane it's your fault.

Why would I play bot games? I can go 100-0 with any champ.

And I'm not going 0-20 like you think I am every game

ReadyxPlayerxOneNov 4, 20161 votes

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Why would I play bot games? I can go 100-0 with any champ.

And I'm not going 0-20 like you think I am every game

Your entire post and teammates comments suggest otherwise. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Janna mìdNov 4, 20161 votes

Well I'm low elo too and still I'm not a huge fan of having adc mids in my ranked (except if they're very good but that never happened) U should do it on normals, cuz there is no climbinig there

Angry MonsterNov 4, 20161 votes

My question is why do you want to play ADC types in these lanes. You admit that you have losing rates for them. I would assume at this point that you know you are going to lose the game if you make this choice, so why do it in a competitive format; IE rank?

Riot looks to game trends to see if it is a bad game for int feeding/trolling, but if you have the same game trend all the time; i am very surprised that you have not been banned. I am pretty sure that if they were phrasing there reports better the system would nail you for track record (IMO)

The fact that you want to play ADC as a solo laner; says that you do not understand: what the game is, why things are the way they are, how game play functions, and it is a team game.

You are obviously not attempting to be better and are actively attempting to hurt your teams win chances.

Dubya99Nov 4, 20161 votes

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My question is why do you want to play ADC types in these lanes. You admit that you have losing rates for them. I would assume at this point that you know you are going to lose the game if you make this choice, so why do it in a competitive format; IE rank?

Riot looks to game trends to see if it is a bad game for int feeding/trolling, but if you have the same game trend all the time; i am very surprised that you have not been banned. I am pretty sure that if they were phrasing there reports better the system would nail you for track record (IMO)

The fact that you want to play ADC as a solo laner; says that you do not understand: what the game is, why things are the way they are, how game play functions, and it is a team game.

You are obviously not attempting to be better and are actively attempting to hurt your teams win chances.

Why would I get banned? What is this track record you speak of? I think everyone here thinks I'm feeding 0-20 every game, it is never that bad. I understand I just want to play adc, solo. It's not like I'm going janna jg.

And I play adc because it's fun?

Angry MonsterNov 5, 20161 votes

i will say it again why in RANK. Fun does not even come close to answer. While i do not like the fun answer it seems to be universally allowed as an excuse to do so in NORMALs.

What is this track record you speak of

From this comment

{quoted} ...lots of times I don't do good ... You don't even want to know what my win rate is with them is.

Here you mention a consistent failure to do preform. I would say if your are failing to preform at least 35% over a period of time at your resting elo that this would be an issue. Are you? no clue you refused to comment on YOUR SUCCESS RATES or win rates and I am not bothering to look you up. From the way you are talking i am going to assume it is in the 20% win rates, which is far from acceptable.

Long term failure can be considered int to feed. Picking things where you know where you are going to fail is not acceptable. This is what you seem to be doing to me.

You are basically throwing the game at champ select, not cause solo ADC is bad (another topic) but cause you admit your are terrible at it and continue to punish those that are your team by doing so.

Dubya99Nov 7, 20161 votes

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i will say it again why in RANK. Fun does not even come close to answer. While i do not like the fun answer it seems to be universally allowed as an excuse to do so in NORMALs.

From this comment

Here you mention a consistent failure to do preform. I would say if your are failing to preform at least 35% over a period of time at your resting elo that this would be an issue. Are you? no clue you refused to comment on YOUR SUCCESS RATES or win rates and I am not bothering to look you up. From the way you are talking i am going to assume it is in the 20% win rates, which is far from acceptable.

Long term failure can be considered int to feed. Picking things where you know where you are going to fail is not acceptable. This is what you seem to be doing to me.

You are basically throwing the game at champ select, not cause solo ADC is bad (another topic) but cause you admit your are terrible at it and continue to punish those that are your team by doing so.

Here we go I'll tell you why in rank. I went to play in normal, I picked mid and I get someone say "can I go mid?" "No" "ok, I'm going anyway"

Aka people troll all the time in normal and don't care

nerak23Nov 4, 20161 votes

ShinkoMinori (NA) - 5 minutes ago The summoner code says you should rather pick something you don't know how to play than something you want to play but your team needs otherwise. Meaning non meta picks are trolling if your team needs you to be meta.

Really, can you give me a quote of that ?

Paladin 0f LifeNov 5, 20161 votes

Why not jungle too? And btw team comp alone can win/lose a game. Also try out gnar top, kennan mid, top, sup and Quinn at um everything. These are not troll picks. Albeit sup quinn but that blind op and black cleaver and spell theif to cure mana and get armor shred with godlike warding and roams not that troll especially n low elo where you can legit carry as a marksman support and no gold. Try twitch mid and jung too. May not be meta but if it works do what you have fun with and if you learn and wim ppl wont report as much