Took a 14-day suspension WITHOUT REASON

Laprutus·Feb 20, 2018·1 votes·665 views

Check the chat here. I ask the community if that's a chat log that is so insulting to get a ban.

Every day I play this game. I come across to people that flame, inting and report without reason. Today it was like those days too. I carried a premade (mid-jungle) which had 13 and 23 deaths respectively. You can check the match here. It's the last game. These 2 guys were wishing cancer and things like these, flamed all over the match and were refusing to communicate with team since we lost 2 barons because shaco wasn't there and was farming jungle.

Riot, could you please check the chat log for the rest of 3 matches which made me get a ban and judge better next time? Instead of just banning through the number of reports done, you can check the full chat log and see if there is a reason I flame sometimes.

24 Comments

ModThe DjinnFeb 20, 201810 votes

This is a three-game chat log that is probably about 70% devoted to complaining about or directly criticizing your team in unnecessary ways, and another 10% insulting players, including calling them "fucking retards."

There is also not an "acceptable" reason to flame. Flaming, of any kind, for any reason, is not okay.

If this immediately got a 14-day ban and your had not previously been chat restricted, I would recommend sending in a Support Ticket to see if the system had been overzealous. If you have received previous punishments, this chat definitely could have earned a punishment, and subsequent punishments escalate the severity of the punishment earned.

Your next ban, if your behavior does not improve, will be a permanent one.

The Cream ReaperFeb 20, 20186 votes

Your next ban, if your behavior does not improve, will be a permanent one.

and by "improve" he means "if you don't stop"

and by stop i mean STOP

not "less than" , not " a little", not "not as bad as before"

ModThe DjinnFeb 20, 20182 votes

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and by "improve" he means "if you don't stop"

and by stop i mean STOP

not "less than" , not " a little", not "not as bad as before"

Precisely this.

LaprutusFeb 20, 20181 votes

Aha! So, what about the performance of the rest of the team and the chat log of them? Do u even focus on improving the performance by suspensions or troll will be a feature of this game?

ModThe DjinnFeb 20, 20184 votes

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Aha! So, what about the performance of the rest of the team and the chat log of them?

A player's performance, even if bad, is fine unless they are intentionally feeding. If their chat logs are problematic report them: the system will judge them and punish them according to their behavior.

Neither their performance nor their behavior excuses yours, or makes you somehow exempt from the rules.

Do u even focus on improving the performance by suspensions or troll will be a feature of this game?

I don't focus on improving performance by suspensions but, in fairness, I am a volunteer moderator with no power to actually change how the system works, so I feel that limitation of mine is appropriate. :P

LaprutusFeb 20, 20181 votes

Got ya! Thought that you are somehow into the system and the people who modify it.

So, if you are a volunteer moderator, I bet you are playing the game too. Since you play the game, I'm sure that you have been in a position in the team that there are 2-4 men trolling. When I say trolling I mean dying 1v1 and get back to lane and die 1v1 again like every 2 minute. Then somehow that player blames the jungler and the flame all over the team starts. Meanwhile you are at bot lane playing support and watch those players dying and dying and dying. And you come to that situtation every 2 - 3 games.

How do you manage those situations? Because ok. I'm not playing 1-2 matches per day, I play 8, because I like this game so much. You can't be calm when you play 5-6 hours and you are in the same elo and even worse at a lower one without ruining the games you yourself.

Jo0oFeb 20, 20181 votes

Sounds like you need to take breaks, if you're pushing yourself to the point where you're getting severely upset over your teammates being bad.

There's no good reason to flame shitty players. They know their bad. Even less a reason to flame trolls, since they want you to flame them.

LaprutusFeb 20, 20181 votes

The thing is that they don't know that they are bad. I take breaks, but why they don't take a break if they cant play anymore. This doesn't change the way I feel when I play for 15 mins and the midlaner or jungler or toplaner is afk to its role farming and not following, not pinging and feeding.

Dude I'm playing that game way too long. Riot should make matchmaking taking as a factor the time you play that game. When you stack at an elo, you can't unstack. And that's where the flame starts.

ChermorgFeb 20, 20181 votes

I think you’re vastly underestimating players self realization. I have had shit games recently. I got flamed all game by one of them (even when my jungle kept running in alone 1v3 as a Kayn who was behind). I definitely know I played bad that game - and I think the jungle knew he played bad also. It does no good for me to tell him.

Most bad players do know they’re “bad” and don’t need you to tell them.

Also, it’s certainly possible to get out of a bad elo. I’ve climbed from b5 to b1 within the past week. Hitting a little rut but I’ll get out eventually :p

Jo0oFeb 20, 20181 votes

Congrats on your climb!

Jo0oFeb 20, 20182 votes

If they're too ignorant to figure out that they're bad at the game, you're not going to spark any realization in their thick skulls anyway.

ModThe DjinnFeb 20, 20183 votes

{quoted}So, if you are a volunteer moderator, I bet you are playing the game too. Since you play the game, I'm sure that you have been in a position in the team that there are 2-4 men trolling. When I say trolling I mean dying 1v1 and get back to lane and die 1v1 again like every 2 minute.

Absolutely! That's not always trolling though -- sometimes it's just a player having a bad day, or being really bad at determining which fights they can win. But I still get your point here.

How do you manage those situations? Because ok. I'm not playing 1-2 matches per day, I play 8, because I like this game so much. You can't be calm when you play 5-6 hours and you are in the same elo and even worse at a lower one without ruining the games you yourself.

Well, even assuming you can't be calm, there are two good options.

Get a stress ball or other way to vent stress out of game.
Channel frustration and anger into the game, rather than into the chat.

That said, I'd recommend the following two things as perhaps better long-term.

TAKE BREAKS. Don't play if you're getting tilted.
Work on improving YOURSELF, and stop judging yourself by your rank number. MMR wants to place you at a level where you lose about 50% of your games (which is how it knows you're at roughly the right skill level), so losses -- even those outside your control -- are just a part of League. That will make loss streaks less bad, as you'll be improving YOURSELF as a primary goal, and your MMR only as a secondary one.

LaprutusFeb 20, 20181 votes

Absolutely! That's not always trolling though -- sometimes it's just a player having a bad day, or being really bad at determining which fights they can win. But I still get your point here.

I think this is the time for that guy to take the break and not for me.

TAKE BREAKS. Don't play if you're getting tilted.

So u advice me to go for a game. If I lose coz of the reasons I mentioned, I get a break. If I win, I go next. Right?

Why riot doesn't focus on creating the teams according to the last 10 match performance? Why don't they push someone to a break after a series of bad performances?

I think that flame starts in situations where people are playing badly and want to have the upper hand.

ModThe DjinnFeb 20, 20181 votes

{quoted}I think this is the time for that guy to take the break and not for me.

Both, perhaps. But you probably don't get the SAME guy doing this three games in a row.

Why riot doesn't focus on creating the teams according to the last 10 match performance? Why don't they push someone to a break after a series of bad performances?

Because playing badly is entirely allowed -- you're ALLOWED to be bad at League. And the MMR adjustments means that your MMR will drop after a series of bad performances, which is exactly what you want here.

I think that flame starts in situations where people are playing badly and want to have the upper hand.

The flame starts when someone decides to flame, for whatever reason. That's really it. No one is to blame but the person who decides to start flaming.

Superior ProfkeFeb 21, 20181 votes

I have a great suggestion, depending on which keyboard you use (if you have logitech, razer or any programable keyboard this should be easy). DISABLE THE ENTER KEY. If you cant control your chat when you get tilted, remove the ability to chat when you get tilted. I am sure there are various programs available online that can do this as well if you do not have a keyboard that allows this.

The Cream ReaperFeb 20, 20182 votes

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Jo0oFeb 20, 20181 votes

I drink a beer, but your way seems workable, too.

Jo0oFeb 20, 20181 votes

Shame on whoever is kink-shaming The Cream Reaper here. WE ALL HAVE NEEDS.

The Cream ReaperFeb 21, 20181 votes

https://imgur.com/a/eCOhE

i'm not even mad. that's awesome!

#WORTH

[sg-ezreal]

XidphelFeb 20, 20181 votes

You need to sacrifice 100 bronze 5s to summon Tantram. Then you'll be able to ask him about that.

YerroFeverFeb 20, 20182 votes

From reading your responses... you're trying to find every excuse as to why you should be allowed to be toxic to someone else by pointing at their behavior and not looking at why you shouldn't be toxic. Why should everyone else do everything in their power to not make you toxic?

You have the most control over whether or not you are toxic to other players. Riot has very little power in whether or not you are toxic to someone else, they can only react to your toxicity and give players tools to react to toxicity.

What you're asking for is an arbitrary standard to be placed to try and solve what you believe to be is the source of toxicity when you have no proof that it definitively is the source of toxicity.

I play ARAMs a lot and when I get champs I'm not good with or a team comp that doesn't work.... and that can happen several games in a row. The pieces don't always fall into place so I don't get angry and toxic at my teammates. I may be frustrated that I'm losing but I'm not going to toxic to my teammates because it doesn't make me feel better nor does it solve anything.

Telephone BoothFeb 20, 20181 votes

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From reading your responses... you're trying to find every excuse as to why you should be allowed to be toxic to someone else by pointing at their behavior and not looking at why you shouldn't be toxic. Why should everyone else do everything in their power to not make you toxic?

You have the most control over whether or not you are toxic to other players. Riot has very little power in whether or not you are toxic to someone else, they can only react to your toxicity and give players tools to react to toxicity.

What you're asking for is an arbitrary standard to be placed to try and solve what you believe to be is the source of toxicity when you have no proof that it definitively is the source of toxicity.

I play ARAMs a lot and when I get champs I'm not good with or a team comp that doesn't work.... and that can happen several games in a row. The pieces don't always fall into place so I don't get angry and toxic at my teammates. I may be frustrated that I'm losing but I'm not going to toxic to my teammates because it doesn't make me feel better nor does it solve anything.

Lol good point. It's everyone else's fault that he's toxic. Apparently it's our responsibility to prevent his toxicity.

Telephone BoothFeb 20, 20181 votes

Ooof... terribly uninformed. I'm sure others will explain how it works.