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Toxicity and where it starts.

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Hello all,

In my revelation to move from Dota 2 and thought I would give league a try, I must confess I am completely ashamed of a small part of this community but moreover Riot as a gaming company.

I have read tons, watched a ton of videos on different champs, what the abilities were, played a ton of bot games. And though this will be the day to try out ARAM or to even see how a low level 5v5 feels.

What I was not prepared for was the unending trolling, being called noob (even after I said i was new), being told to kill myself, my mother needs to be raped or killed for birthing me, or just being called the "N" word repeatedly. Alright trolls i understand just ignore/mute etc etc.

I did find a nice player that I played a few matches with and spoke to at length, he explained the reporting process and his opinion on the game as long term. Least to say it wasn't positive.

So back to leveling, same thing. Ragers, trolls, and just plain mean people. So I started to report them, then i start getting reports of verbal abuse? SO yeah that got me pretty upset, it almost feels like toxicity is the norm in low level game play. I felt myself being sucked into this captain negative of game play. I can very well see where this would change a persons habits and carry on with them into further matches.

I noticed that there was a message on the start up screen that Riot has reformed "XXXX" number of players, but whats stops them from making another account and continuing this process?

-conclusion I am sorry but I cannot in peace of mind continue to play a game that has zero recourse to curb this type of negativity in a social game. Moreover the whole idea of just muting every player in a game that requires communication (in some fashion) Pinging drag doesnt necessarily communicate to the team to place a ward there or that they are in fact doing baron to everyone is completely absurd.

I guess this will get down voted and lost into the abyss, just my opinion on trying something new.

53 Comments

Mimy8 votes

New player.experiance has always been a problem due to smurfing.

The only thing you can do is find other new.people who.are nice and form a team together as you hel eachother grow.

Or make friends with some nice.level 30s. Who dont care weather you do bad. And are.willing to have fun. Teach and also learn themselves while helping.

I may be bronze level 30 but ill be willing to friend you im pretty chill I main normals dont care much for ranking. But just having fun.

You need to make.friends with similar.intrests to thrive on here. Yes majority is toxic. Its in every elo im afraid and sometimes may be worse the.further you go up.

Ive tried dota 2 it was good but I never connected with a charactar and playing unlocked is still hard. Slowly getting there.tho. I lock and unlock it at times.

Its probably a good moba its.just not.for me.

Zyorhist4 votes

I must live in a small segmented corner of the game, I almost never experience the rage that people describe here. I never have really, and the few times I did I just clicked that little ignore button and went to the next game. I'm not sure why my experience has been so much different, but it has. I guess if you want someone positive to play with send me a friend request, I will try to have what fun I can when you're on.

Kazaashi3 votes

Riot didn't create Toxicity for online games and they sure as hell won't be able to fix it. Stop blaming Riot for people's actions.

If you don't respond to toxicity, you cannot be punished for toxicity. Why does no one understand that a Toxic player's goal is to:

  1. Make themselves feel better by putting other people down.
  2. Make themselves feel better by getting other people punished.

Do you know the best way to prevent that from happening? Muting them and communicating with pings and dragon/summoner spell timers will pretty much make you unpunishable by the system. Now, when you meet a a Toxic player they won't be able to bait you into a fight nor put you down and when they try to report you at the end of the game, their report against you will be false and they will lose credibility to the system.

Think of it this way:

Someone comes up to you and says something to the affect of "you are shit and should kill yourself". at that point you have a lot of choices to make, but you are the only one responsible for what that choice is. You are completely free to punch them in the face and tell them to get away from you, but they can now charge you with assault and sue you for damages. And they would have a good case against you. By responding to toxic people, that is basically what you are doing. The Toxic person was originally in the wrong for what they did, but the way you responded was also inappropriate and both of you should be punished.

Shyvauni2 votes

Low level play has more toxicitt becuase Riot continually bans the toxic players. Stick it out and hope it does not change you. You will still run into toxicity at higher play but it will be significantly less.

I tried out DotA 2 and stopped becuase I found the community there was not willing to even talk to a new player at all. Which led to feeling Isolated in a game that has many mechanics I forget about. (Like not having to go to the shops to buy cus of the mule thing )

Disneylord1 votes

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Low level play has more toxicitt becuase Riot continually bans the toxic players. Stick it out and hope it does not change you. You will still run into toxicity at higher play but it will be significantly less.

I tried out DotA 2 and stopped becuase I found the community there was not willing to even talk to a new player at all. Which led to feeling Isolated in a game that has many mechanics I forget about. (Like not having to go to the shops to buy cus of the mule thing )

its because Dota doesnt have just Dota players it has all other millions of players that play the other Steam games and try out Dota aswell so they wont talk to you

zkookz2 votes

You think that is bad? Ha, you are to sensitive and Rito doesnt want you play here anyway. You think your few dollars is going to change the way Rito moderates this game? They dont care about you, him, me, or the trolls, ragers, racists, or the people that throw random threats around.

I suggest you get some thick skin and follow the sheeples here and learn to use that mute button and do your own thing. <----- this is exactly how Riot wants you to be and throw money at overpriced skins, they afterall need to take all these kids lunch money before the next big thing comes around.

blueberrypancake4 votes

Have you ever watched Totalbiscuit

He is one the few youtuber I think gives the least amount of shits ever and still, he disabled his comments section because he didn't have "thick enough skin"

Not everyone is like you bro

And I do understand the Riot only cares about the money, why else would they make a MOBA in the first place, but still you need to realize that we aren't robots here, there still needs to be humane attributes to a game in order for humans to want to play their game

shyv2 votes

at low levels, toxicity is probably the worst you'll experience. of course, even at max level, even in diamond rank there is some toxicity, but the people you're playing with right now are likely experienced league players on a second account. could even be due to getting banned on their main, riot has no way of stopping anyone from making a second account. hell, i did it when i got banned, but i'm working on changing my attitude instead of just continuing to be an asshole. these people can be as awful as they want, because they know in the end it doesn't matter if their second, third, fourth accounts get banned, as they have invested very little time and probably no money into the game. lots of smurfs use their second accounts as a way to be toxic without being punished for it, so they can wreck low level players and boost their egos. it's kind of sad.

if you like the game and want to stick with it, definitely make use of the mute button. I know it's harder to communicate with your team, but it's worth it to stop yourself from getting angry & saying things that could get yourself reported too. riot punishes people retaliating to toxicity just as much as they punish the instigators. all i can recommend is mute, report, move on with your life. even for a loss, normal games will still grant you some IP and XP, so it's not all bad

if you want to add me, i have a level 20~ account that I use to try out new champs and 1v1 my friends, so I don't have to take it as seriously. i'm pretty good at dealing with toxic people and i can help you out with some stuff if you'd like

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

61939590DEL11 votes

Little money true, but they will still have their main champions bought with RP theirs no escaping that harsh fact. Pay attention to their names, inappropriate names still linger, which they STILL should be banned. Why do people change their name to something weak & toxic as Puck= you know the rest i will never understand this generation of kids we are bringing into this workforce.

shyv1 votes

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61939590DEL11 votes

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while i agree that offensive usernames should be banned for hate speech (i literally just got matched against 2 people in the same game with the usernames Death2Minorities and KillAllJewzz) i don't know why you would blame that on our generation?? has nothing to do with age. older people are very capable of being racist, sexist, homophobic assholes.

Try not to say the names here( i know their so wrong & should be deleted ASAP). which the older players fate is usually already sealed due to his/her up-bring, if he/she gets kids they will liking follow suit. The generation i'm talking about are the kids who were borne in the 2000's it may be too late to show them the true path, I wish i could help my little brother respect women more:(.

shyv1 votes

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61939590DEL11 votes

"Kids have no respect these days!!!" We all can say whatever over the internet even adults, but eventually in real life never ever disrespect an ethnic group or your employer. Some adults already got fired from their jobs for acting childish or being inappropriate during something on TV that's was"LIVE". I ONLY accept John Tortorella fuming when he loses a hockey game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyFlIwdNLBw

Tactically i would think most adults who are toxic don't like their jobs or can't find work @ all.

shyv1 votes

i'm not really sure how this conversation got so derailed lmao, all i meant was there is no age limit on being immature and disrespectful

Jingerbeardman2 votes

muting someone doesnt mean they wont see what you say in chat

LORD Phanlax III1 votes

I definitely agree that League has a problem with terribly toxic players. While it does get better as you level, it never really goes away, which is one of the reasons I don't play Ranked at all. One of the things I've found is that I don't really enjoy this game without a friend, usually on Skype. I learned a little while ago to immediately mute anyone who gets on my nerves, it helps me cool off, and generally, toxic players don't have much useful information to type out. Muting has definitely helped me stay happier when I've been playing, and has lowered my blood pressure significantly.

Also, it's been getting better recently, as Riot has been updating the report/ban system.

lolptwo1 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official/3EArovkA-reports-how-do-they-work?comment=003f

Here was my comment on how I went from an average gamer who's actually really nice in person, to a perma banned League player simply because I do not lie down and let people walk all over in a video game when they don't get punished for their actions, this is League of Legends. I've been playing it for a long time, I recommend sticking to Dota 2 if you expect this game to be less toxic.

shyv3 votes

i find it incredibly hard to believe that you're "a really nice person in real life" if you're using hate speech whenever you get the chance

lolptwo2 votes

why is that? if you call me a %%%% in real life, i'd respond the exact same way. if you told me in real life that you're going to murder my family I might knock the living shit out of you....so what's there not to believe that people react badly to extreme toxicity online where irl I don't have to deal with anything near the abuse I experience in League?

shyv2 votes

what part of "using hate speech makes you a bad person" are you not understanding

Puynsi2 votes

The part where people gets triggered by words over the internet from an anonymous person for the sole purpose of looking politically correct even if they are irl closeted racist.

shyv2 votes

yeah im offended by homophobic slurs "just to look politically correct" and not because im gay. you got me, homophobia isnt real and im doing this for attention.

Puynsi2 votes

You are gay, cheers, nobody cares, nobody asked, just ignore it, getting triggered by words on the internet is tumblr tier, might as well go there and preach how anonymous people should be punished for making use of such anonymity.

shyv2 votes

never once did i say i was "triggered" so idk where the hell you're getting that from. all im saying is, if you use homophobic slurs, that makes you a homophobe. there's really no arguing that. i dont know why you continue to do it lmao.

Puynsi2 votes

Go ahead, keep throwing your buzzwords, someday someone will punch you and you will probably think it wasn't your fault.

shyv2 votes

you're accusing me of throwing buzzwords around but at the same time yelling Triggered and Tumblr in some weird attempt to undermine my argument because apparently gay people only come from tumblr? anyways you're annoying and probably an edgy high school kid and i have better shit to do so, don't come crying to me when gay people can't stand being around you, bye

Puynsi1 votes

Yeah men, gay people are victims, not a disease, got ya.

shyv2 votes

ah, ok, there's the flat out homophobia i was waiting for

lolptwo1 votes

lmao this convo is a prime example. People on the internet often times pretend to be something they are not. I once had a couple kids on league continually treaten to beat me up and that they were high rank army dudes, this caught my interest. They said add them on skype and they'll come beat me up.

I'm a pretty old fashioned dude and i'm not a very small or weak guy, I know how the internet is populated with children nowadays, I added them on skype it was a bunch of 14 yr old kids on a screen and they got so scared when they saw me they insta ran away and asked me to not hurt them ( not that I would).

Here i'll answer your question with extreme precision I don't know how else you cannot graps this idea.

If you stick up for yourself against a bully does that make you a bad person? If little children and teenagers on League attempt to bully you with false personas and constantly threaten and harass you a bad person for sticking up for yourself or retaliating?

Answer: No, absolutely not, you're allowed to put a bully in it's place, in League you are constantly expected to turn the other cheek to anything anyone says to or about you, because it's the internet. Well fine, but I just decided, no it's a game it's the internet, harass me and i'm going to defend myself. I totally deserved the ban, but so did the people attacking me. Just turns out I got banned and i'm sure some of them eventually got banned. The idea is League promotes toxicity until they actually come down harsh on people

shyv3 votes

i literally never said it was wrong to stand up for yourself. not once did i say that and if that wasn't clear im sorry. my issue is the fact that you talked about how league will tolerate hate speech and you said you experienced it firsthand how you were able to get away with using it. i don't really see how you can be a nice person when you still like using that kind of language? i mean, if a gay person literally walked up to you and punched you in the fuckin face, they're absolutely in the wrong and you have the right to stand up for yourself. i 100% agree. my issue is that, given the chance, you "standing up for yourself" would just end up being you calling them a fggot or something you know? like hating people is fine, especially if they punched you in the face, punch em back. but if you hate them because they're gay and end up calling them a fggot..... that sort of puts you in the wrong too

that 14 year old memer kid keeps insisting that they're "just words" and shouldnt have any effect on people, but they do. i dont want to lecture you because you've already mentioned that you've been permabanned & have reformed, but just think about what you're doing really. if you had the chance, if riot wouldn't ban you for using hate speech, would you continue to do it?

i definitely don't want to get in a fight with you seeing as we're both adults & probably have better shit to do, i just think there are better ways of dealing with things than resorting to homophobic & racial slurs, because believe me, if you call some guy on your team a f*ggot, that person is not going to be the only one affected by it, and it's pretty damaging to a young person's self esteem to know that being like them is an insult

lolptwo1 votes

I not at all homophobic nor racist or anything of that sort. However online it's very easy to assess what language is the most offensive to the ears, People online tend to do that, and they tend to pick out whatever weakness they find to try and insult you where it hurts, since of course it's only online so normal insults don't quite hit as hard but if you find something that can hurt someone you use that against them. For ex: calling someone the N-word isn't all that offensive if you're not black. However find someone who's black and call them the N-word it becomes incredibly offensive.

Similar to how one of the most upvotes Board posts this year was a girl with lukemia told to "get cancer and die and that he's glad she's dying" to the point where she cried..Now do I honestly believe that person actually supports cancer or was he just trying to hit her where it hurts. The answer is, the latter. He could very well be a doctor studying cancer cures but that's where anonymity and the internet comes into place. When you try to hurt someone online, you attempt to be as rigid as possible. Be surrounded with a community that constantly does this, it makes you lose faith in the community and system. See the most extreme cases go on ignored...you begin seeing if you can retaliate from these bullies by finding their weaknesses.

It's a cycle of toxicity and so is the internet. However League's system is very much abused by it, I would of been more than pleased if I receive an instant 14 day ban or instant chat restricted for even mentioned those words in chat (what can possibly be your excuse to use that language, bad day or not), and probably would of learned my lesson first go around, instead of just a constant flow of warnings for an absurd amount of games for both the bully and the victim who retaliates.

shyv1 votes

i just wanna clear this up because the other kid tried to pick a fight where it wasn't needed and i'm honestly just trying to talk to you like an adult lmao

it's wrong to use hate speech. plain and simple. if you call someone a f*ggot, that makes you a homophobe.

but i can understand what you're saying about wanting to hit people where it hurts. league definitely does cause a cycle of toxicity, to the point where often you say things you regret and have that moment of "holy fuck, who AM i?"

there's been times when, trying to defend myself from toxic people, i said things even worse than what was said to me and made the situation worse than it needed to be

so, no, i can't blame you for wanting to expose people's weaknesses when i do the same thing, just without using slurs & racism and stuff

the only thing i ask you to consider is who else is being affected by what you say in game. think about the fact that, before you call your jungler autistic for dying while ganking, there could be people playing who are literally autistic and were innocent bystanders in this situation, who are now being used as an insult

im not trying to preach to you, im not trying to act like a better person than you, i've been banned too. i just think it's good to consider how minorities are treated in the real world and how all these tiny little insults contribute to big things

anyways, i'm going to sleep. i didn't really mean to start a debate with anyone on the boards, just tired of being called a %%%got when all i wanna do is play video games and i sort of ended up here venting lol

lolptwo1 votes

I understand what you're saying, but let me tell you my getting banned was rarely off calling people things like autistic and homophobia, but more a long the lines of passive aggressive satire saying "I pity them" and that I find them "pathetic" and a lot of the time I genuinely did. In my getting banned I don't think i've ever used a hate speech, but I probably used the R word once or twice, It was more a long the lines of. "if darwin's theory suggested anything, i do not know how you as a human being as made it to be as old as you are" and satirical jokes like that

61939590DEL11 votes

I've read your thread & I have to say IT'S YOUR CHOICE TO BE TOXIC or to become **ENRAGE ** with someone on the team. My latest Game withSkarner i had dicking around teammates that didn't understand the Jg aspect mySkarner even with 3 lvs up on the enemy Braum left the enemies camp (blue)when it was 3 vs 2. Akali LeeSin Lulu vs Skarner Malphite "Which i'm like Wow Braum why didn't you help". His reason i didn't want to 4 vs 3" (when it still counted as 3vs3 in the camp) soon after his absence he gets murder 3 vs1 by Yasuo Vayne Lulu( she re-spawn after i killed her), after that I just ignore him & kept playing, but kids do take a while to understand something which i hope they learn form their absence.

JARmates1 votes

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i find it incredibly hard to believe that you're "a really nice person in real life" if you're using hate speech whenever you get the chance

Is this guy serious? Life ain't all black and white mate. You can be the biggest jerk online and be the nicest guy in real life.

shyv1 votes

not about being mean or nice. it's about using slurs online. if you're going to come online and call me a %%%got and then say you're not homophobic because it's only something you do online i don't care, i still dont want to be around you, just because it's only online doesn't mean you're not a homophobe irl too.

also im not discussing this now. i commented this 2 weeks ago. you're being weird.

JARmates1 votes

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not about being mean or nice. it's about using slurs online. if you're going to come online and call me a %%%got and then say you're not homophobic because it's only something you do online i don't care, i still dont want to be around you, just because it's only online doesn't mean you're not a homophobe irl too.

also im not discussing this now. i commented this 2 weeks ago. you're being weird.

"your" not "you're"

shyv1 votes

it's one thing to correct someone's grammar, it's another thing entirely to do it and be wrong

congrats, you just made yourself look like a pretentious dick

Sythriel Draken1 votes

When I first started back playing a year ago it was fine. people were calm, chill, and easy going and helpful. It got me to be helpful, calm, chill and not a toxic asshole. Then, I hit ranked because I was doing so well in normals.. well, I hit silver 3 in my first ranked season and oh my god the amount of toxicity that riot isn't doing a god damn thing about.. It's honestly turning ME into a toxic player. I'm honestly getting sick and tired of riot not cracking down on the root of the issue and instead burying their heads in the sands behind a failure of a system.

Nyyre1 votes

The best recommendation I have for you friend is to make a few who play league. I'm sorry I don't have any really good answers for you. That Almensin guy made a really good point about earlier levels being harder. I hope that you made **SOME **positive experience here though, however if you didn't that is fine... I guess. [zombie-nunu-tears]

LeShoque1 votes

My universal method is just to not react to toxic attitude, because to rage against them is exactly what those players want. They want to see their offensive acts hit someone and feed on that satisfaction. Just ignore all that shit they throw at you, you don't even have to mute them, treat them as what they are - irrelevant (at least to you..) douches that are not worth a second thought.

Btw, I never had a "toxic" personality and also the game didn't turn me into it - honestly i think that's a very lame excuse some people use to justify their bad behaviour. If you are acting like an asshole to someone who doesn't act that way himself, it's your own fault and not anybody else's.

TheFameAnimal1 votes

Smurfs plague league at low levels, bashing new players, you should notice a drop when you gain more levels but the toxicity for new players is simply disgusting. I remember playing Janna first time and got a kill with my q and someone told me to kill myself, I was about to quit but I loved league a bit too much to quit (because of the champs, gameplay and lore etc.)

Hyrum Graff1 votes

{quoted}

Hello all,

In my revelation to move from Dota 2 and thought I would give league a try, I must confess I am completely ashamed of a small part of this community but moreover Riot as a gaming company.

I have read tons, watched a ton of videos on different champs, what the abilities were, played a ton of bot games. And though this will be the day to try out ARAM or to even see how a low level 5v5 feels.

What I was not prepared for was the unending trolling, being called noob (even after I said i was new), being told to kill myself, my mother needs to be raped or killed for birthing me, or just being called the "N" word repeatedly. Alright trolls i understand just ignore/mute etc etc.

I did find a nice player that I played a few matches with and spoke to at length, he explained the reporting process and his opinion on the game as long term. Least to say it wasn't positive.

So back to leveling, same thing. Ragers, trolls, and just plain mean people. So I started to report them, then i start getting reports of verbal abuse? SO yeah that got me pretty upset, it almost feels like toxicity is the norm in low level game play. I felt myself being sucked into this captain negative of game play. I can very well see where this would change a persons habits and carry on with them into further matches.

I noticed that there was a message on the start up screen that Riot has reformed "XXXX" number of players, but whats stops them from making another account and continuing this process?

-conclusion I am sorry but I cannot in peace of mind continue to play a game that has zero recourse to curb this type of negativity in a social game. Moreover the whole idea of just muting every player in a game that requires communication (in some fashion) Pinging drag doesnt necessarily communicate to the team to place a ward there or that they are in fact doing baron to everyone is completely absurd.

I guess this will get down voted and lost into the abyss, just my opinion on trying something new.

Unfortunately, this is worse for you since you are not new to MOBAs. Since you're better, you get placed against other high skill, low level accounts. Unfortunately, as you've said, nothing prevents a banned player from making a new account and many do. Therefore, a high proportion of high skill, low level accounts -- the people in your games -- are in fact toxic players.

I have a smurf. It's now level 18 and it was in the last couple levels that I noticed toxicity has decreased significantly. So, if you can stick around until then, hopefully things will get better for you.

A word about reporting: here's a very simplified version of the report system: it looks for patterns, like, 'When a person says "ggez" they get reported 1000x more than people who don't say ggez.' It then decides that 'ggez is a toxic phrase.' Then, if you report someone, it searches their chats for toxic phrases. If it finds them, it will punish the person you reported. If not, it will consider your report invalid and make your reports worth less in the future.

So, when you report someone and they turn around and report everyone back for it, they will end up getting punished, AND their reports will become less valuable in the future, unless you or someone else they reported were toxic. So basically, if you haven't received punishments from Riot, you don't have much to worry about.

Korillo1 votes

I've played over 1,000 bot games while leveling 4 accounts and can count on 1 hand the amount of times anyone has trolled in a bot game or been toxic. Has your experience been in bot games or 5v5s? I could understand if it was 5v5's it's unfortunate but happens all the time, but if it were bot games that would be really surprising.

BastionKross1 votes

I don't believe you, OP.

Not about being subjected to extremely toxic shenanigans or that Riot's system to prevent it is laughably bad, those parts I believe.

What I don't believe is this:

What I was not prepared for was the unending trolling, being called noob (even after I said i was new), being told to kill myself, my mother needs to be raped or killed for birthing me, or just being called the "N" word repeatedly.

You mean to tell me you started playing League of Legends and did not know about how utterly horrendous it's community is beforehand? This is pretty common knowledge as far as information about the game goes. I've met people online who knew that League was toxic as hell, and they didn't even know what genre the game itself was.

Or did you know it was going to bad, and said something like "Oh, those guys are just cynical and exaggerating. There's no way it can be as bad as they say". I'm sure by now I don't need to tell you that yes, it is that bad. Maybe even worse.

Arrow657141 votes

I was hopeful to say the least it was not as bad as my sources claimed. Which in some instances they are and are not. D2 has its drawbacks, sadly like others have stated there is zero communication, nobody talks. I was looking for something a bit more social, I wasnt expecting this much social activity.

Guess chalk it up to being naive?

BastionKross1 votes

Ah, you're a social type of gamer.

The best way to accomplish that in League is to form a team, or join one, and make friends with the people you're teaming with. Even just a duo with someone will make the game much better for you. There's a whole section of the boards dedicated to forming and joining teams, and there's some teams that are just for casual games or new players.

As long as you make friends outside of a match and then play with those friends, you should be good to go. Just try not to expect to make many friends during a match; unless you do a lot of coop vs AI.

Verxint1 votes

The people in those matches are largely low silver/bronze scrubs who want an easy time stomping "noobs" but fail to realize they're too shit to pull it off.

As your MMR goes up toxicity goes down

Arrow657141 votes

I have taken some advice from the posts and tried to play a bit more, this go around wasnt as bad (woohoo) I had fun at least. I did meet some nice people that were really helpful of champion tips. I havent added anyone in this conversation, I feel that I wouldnt be in any sort of skill level as most and honestly would be afraid to waste anyones time.

I do like the ARAM map though, the game style is nice in the fact nobody gets to argue about roles and kind of forces you to work together.

I really do appreciate anyone reading and leaving a comment. I do wish matches were as good as people on the boards!

AJStarhiker1 votes

Glad to see you decided to give LoL another shot. Unfortunately, like some of the other posters said, the early levels can be rough until the toxic players get a clue or get another account banned.

And yeah, ARAM's are awesome for lower stress play. They are particularly good when you start seeing games with players who have T3 runes. If you haven't reached lvl20 yet, it can get really frustrating when you have lower beginning stats that someone with the better runes. But, since ARAM can land you champions you've never played before, people tend to be more forgiving it you don't play as well.

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