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A glaring problem with the community

Play Classic WoW··0 votes·2,228 views

Far too long have us LoL players dealt with toxicity in our matches... But it's getting worse. Much, much worse. On average, there is 2 toxic players per MATCH. I'm not just talking about the "fuck you" toxic players. I'm talking about the toxic players that go out of their way to make your life miserable. I wonder just how many new and veteran players quit because of the community.

I've been saying it for far too long now, Riot needs a zero tolerance policy. Of course, Riot won't do this. They LOVE their money. The problem is, they are making far less than what they used to, say, two years ago. The population of this game is decreasing, for more than just toxicity of course. But when the company itself is a cesspool of toxicity (cough, the sexism issues), then how are they even going to begin fixing the problem between the players?|

Rant over.

20 Comments

Voldymort7 votes

Riot needs a zero tolerance policy. Of course, Riot won't do this.

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0 tolerance catchphrases already exist and they are punished all the time...

The problem is, they are making far less than what they used to, say, two years ago.

The population of this game is decreasing

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Play Classic WoW1 votes

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0 tolerance catchphrases already exist and they are punished all the time...

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Wow, they banned the N word and kys! Good job Riot. No really, good job. But that's not enough. Any form of toxicity should be banned. THAT is zero tolerance. And the population IS decreasing. Check twitch numbers for LoL. LCS is hurting in particular. Check Youtube. It's so easy to look it up for yourself.

Voldymort9 votes

But that's not enough. Any form of toxicity should be banned.

it is...

Check twitch numbers for LoL.

viewership numbers =/= game population.

the reason lol is dropping in popularity on twitch is because unlike fortnite or other games, lol matches are too lenghty to provide entertainment outside of pre existing tiwtch communities. the first 10 minutes of most lol matches are not fun to watch.

LCS is hurting in particular.

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sure dude... sure...

It's so easy to look it up for yourself.

since you made the claim, it's your job to provide the evidence for your claim, not mine

Play Classic WoW1 votes

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it is...

viewership numbers =/= game population.

the reason lol is dropping in popularity on twitch is because unlike fortnite or other games, lol matches are too lenghty to provide entertainment outside of pre existing tiwtch communities. the first 10 minutes of most lol matches are not fun to watch.

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sure dude... sure...

since you made the claim, it's your job to provide the evidence for your claim, not mine

Took a quick look at your forum posts. Things make sense now. All you do is go on the forums and try to shut people down. You get some sort of kick out of it. Everything you say from this point on won't be taken seriously.

zPOOPz13 votes

so.... can't defend your post.... now go for personal attack?

Voldymort2 votes

i'm not even surprised...

Voldymort4 votes

Took a quick look at your forum posts.

red herring much?

what does my forum history have to do with your baseless claims?

Zombie Gerbil2 votes

"Oh geez, this guy is making look like an idiot.. Time to insult him!"

You simply got cornered and here you were talking about how any form toxicity should be punishable. Does that include you?

Play Classic WoW1 votes

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"Oh geez, this guy is making look like an idiot.. Time to insult him!"

You simply got cornered and here you were talking about how any form toxicity should be punishable. Does that include you?

At no point did I insult him. Yes, this also includes me. Some of the stuff I have said in the past few years SHOULD have been bannable. But I wasn't banned. I've never been banned. This entire thread proves my point. All the downvotes, most of the comments being flame directed towards me. It's actually hilarious, the mob mentality being showcased on this thread is insane. Seriously, guys, way to prove my point on this one. Good effort.

Zombie Gerbil1 votes

You did that all your own. Applaud only yourself.

Play Classic WoW1 votes

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it is...

viewership numbers =/= game population.

the reason lol is dropping in popularity on twitch is because unlike fortnite or other games, lol matches are too lenghty to provide entertainment outside of pre existing tiwtch communities. the first 10 minutes of most lol matches are not fun to watch.

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sure dude... sure...

since you made the claim, it's your job to provide the evidence for your claim, not mine

There's your evidence.

Kei1432 votes

I used to watch LCS on twitch. Now I don't have the time to watch things live, so I just watch the vods throughout the week.

Part of the contributing to twitch viewership lowering, not part of league dying.

Telephone Booth2 votes

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Wow, they banned the N word and kys! Good job Riot. No really, good job. But that's not enough. Any form of toxicity should be banned. THAT is zero tolerance. And the population IS decreasing. Check twitch numbers for LoL. LCS is hurting in particular. Check Youtube. It's so easy to look it up for yourself.

Twitch numbers? So popularity for viewership on twitch is going down, is what you meant.

R107 Games4 votes

The way the game is right now has made people toxic. Balance,punishment system, matchmaking,etc

AeroWaffle3 votes

I think the age of the game as well as the popularity plays a major role.

As the game gets older more people are going to feel more invested (thus take losses more personally) and the skill gap between players will increase.

Take counter-strike as an example. A high skill-ceiling game where being fresh to the game is just going to lead to you getting your face ground into the pavement since most people who currently play the game are the people who have been playing counter strike for years. This leads to quite a bit of friction between teammates when someone is really under-performing. The gap in knowledge and skill between players are much more pronounced on old games compared to new games.

Because league is popular there are quite a few players that are playing the game, not because they are necessarily choosing league because it looks like the most fun out of all other games, but instead are playing it because their friends are playing and it's something for them to talk about with their friends (the WoW effect).

People hate looking unskilled in front of their friends. This results in greater pressure to out-perform randoms on the internet (and more pressure to blame any inadequacy on a third-party).

EggWhitesNGravy1 votes

That has got to be one of the best explanations of this game ever.

floo1 votes

And how would you like to introduce a zero tolerancw policy, other than the already existing one?

Telephone Booth1 votes

Lol way to just make up a bunch of shit. Nice. 2 toxic players in every match on average? Where do you get your data?

Play Classic WoW1 votes

Since so many of you have requested data because you're lazy, here you go. Three links, with one having more credibility than others. https://www.unrankedsmurfs.com/blog/players-2017 https://lolsmurfaccounts.com/how-many-people-play-league-of-legends/ This third link was from a post in 2016 https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/09/13/riot-games-reveals-league-of-legends-has-100-million-monthly-players/#10ffd8365aa8

Estimated numbers for 2018? Around 80 million. Riot hasn't released an official statement on their numbers this year. I doubt they will.

Play Classic WoW1 votes

And by the way, since I've made this post I've taken note of the toxic players in every match I've played since then. It averaged out to THREE players per match. THREE.

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