Punishment for players that have been banned?

Helpmeb4idie··3 votes·751 views

I've noticed from playing about a thousand matches in ranked overall, that my queue is so much longer than my friend's queue. We're both in silver on the low end (s5 & s4). I have been banned once or twice and my friend has not. His queues take roughly 2 minutes mine takes 11. I've noticed that I have queued with allies with lose streaks and are flaming consistently. I am not complaining, I am just wondering if there is a correlation between being banned and getting queued with players with a short fuse... I would like to hear from a dev or see some other people's opinions.

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SmokedAlmonds1 votes

Queue times have to do with role availability and number of people at that rank.

Riot has spoken out against prisoners island(matching punished people exclusively with eachother) many times.

shyv1 votes

i really don't think "prisoners island" is a bad idea.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

I don't really either.

What they say is that it is counter productive to reforming people since they just are around people with bad behavior all the time. I won't pretend to have any insight on that. Really I just want them out of my games, I don't care about any kind of revenge so if they were just put into their own queue instead of banned I would have no problem with that.

shyv1 votes

the thing is, the reform system as it works right now is based too much on.. feelings. i think the way riot approaches the toxicity issue is by trying to make the person feel bad, like, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

but toxic people, speaking as someone who has been banned, don't give a shit about other people's feelings. to me they're not real. they're just people on the internet. im not toxic anymore and i haven't been punished since the ban but that's ONLY because i don't want to get permabanned. and im willing to bet that's the only reason 90% of toxic people "reform"

but then there are people who come off a ban and just find a new way to ruin everything. whether it be trolling, afking, or passive aggressive things like "?" that you can't get banned for. they're still toxic. they just have to be careful with how they do it so they're not banned.

that's still the kind of behavior that good players don't want to be matched up with. it still ruins the game experience for them.

if there was a "prisoner's island" i would say let it be a free for all (exception: legitimate death threats and suicide baiting) so that toxic people can all wear each other out. being around that kind of behavior every game is exhausting. it would ruin the game experience for them and they would finally realize what they've been doing to their teammates.

maybe you can get off on good behavior or something. THAT is how you encourage reform. not by giving you a slap on the wrist and sending you back out into the game with several more chances to ruin people's games.

i, personally, have improved my behavior a ton since i was banned but many people don't. people get banned, make smurfs, get their smurfs banned, make another one.

stop matching those people with new players!! there are so many people in this game who just want to play casually and have fun. they should not have to put up with assholes.

idk. i think it would work really well

sorry for wall of text

SnT Puscifer1 votes

This actually makes some sense. I can tell you right now the system blows.. Seriously, I have a dirty dirty dirty,, like seriously dirty mouth. It's dirty like I let Oprah squat over my face and do what she needed to dirty.. BUT I am not a mean or hostile person. This includes trollish crappy in-game behavior. This does not mean I AFK when I feel like the team is bad. This does not mean I ruin someone's game experience by feeding or stealing their camps. I SWEAR,, and yes, I swear a lot. People in general have gotten way way way way too PC and fragile anymore. I completely understand death threats but I am perma banned because I cannot sit back and watch the trolls ruin game after game with my mouth shut. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE fix the real problems in this game and make it fun again and get off the diapers with he bad language focus... I mean really,, there is a filter built in is there not if you are all touchy feely?

shyv1 votes

you claim to be not a mean or hostile person...... but you're permabanned so im not buying it

you don't get permabanned for swearing. you don't get punished at all for swearing.

SnT Puscifer1 votes

You and I have completely different opinions of what a "mean" or hostile person is. If you think speaking up a verbally slamming an intentional in game troll is mean,, then yes.. I am mean. I wish there was space and time to post all of my reports and the the game examples I would, but there isn't a point. My entire point is,, they ban for language. Inflammatory chat. That is all.. My entire point is that solves nothing and in my experience the inflammatory chat is usually in response to someone being an in game asshole like all of my examples above.

shyv1 votes

nice people don't get permabanned lol. i've been 14 day banned but i improved my behavior and stopped being an asshole. you, evidently, are still an asshole.

Airbane981 votes

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nice people don't get permabanned lol. i've been 14 day banned but i improved my behavior and stopped being an asshole. you, evidently, are still an asshole.

hmm you're gold so ill leave you off with a warning but thumbs down worthy content like that will make me thumbs you down

shyv1 votes

what does being gold have to do with anything

Airbane981 votes

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what does being gold have to do with anything

you made a bad commentary

shyv1 votes

i have no idea what you're talking about but cool

proud and bronze2 votes

what riot says and what they do are not always the same thing

Helpmeb4idie1 votes

I played match today... It was a defeat. 2 out of the 5 players were toxic as can be. This is sorta of becoming a normal thing lately. I don't tilt so I it's not my behavior. I really do think that they should get rid of prisoner's island for the people that are over being an ass.

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