Perm Ban Vs. Perm Chat Restrics.

SacOfJaWeeda··2 votes·1,214 views

I feel as though Riot should change their policy, so instead of having people who cuss, and are "rude" get permanently banned, they should be permanently chat restricted. It is an extremely stupid thing just to be banned permanently for rude behavior for many reasons. My first reason, is that it will only make someone even angrier than they are. They probably had a bad day, or maybe they are getting bullied in real life themselves, and League of Legends is like their escape from that, and then they get really mad at someone for making fun of them in game, and then they go all off, and forget about reporting, and muting. Obviously, the people on the game are going to make even more fun of you, and are going to keep trying to make you mad so you cuss even more, and do worse things (this has happen to me a few times, and I fell for the trap, thanks a lot for 2 perm bans on 2 accounts >_>). Also, I think that a perm chat restriction is a whole lot better, because instead of losing all of your money that you spent on this game, you would have learn to use your words, and become more strategic, instead of wasting your limited chats on bullying. I remember on this account, like 2 months ago, i got banned for 2 weeks without any warnings, no chat restrictions, no nothing. I got really mad, because everyone kept repeating the word. "Reported." which somehow aggravates me so much. So I report them for harassment, but I become the one who gets punished just because I was trying to defend myself, and was getting mad, so I let out a few cusses. I was talking to someone from Staff, and they said that they don't ban for cussing, but just for being rude, or mean." Finally, I believe that they should change it to chat restrictions instead of a permanent ban, because there are far worse things that actually do deserve a permanent ban other than bad language, like hacking, or feeding on purpose, and many other things that I can't think of right now. Hacking ruins the game, not people using rude words. Whenever I am being mean in game, people don't notice this, but I am just typing my thoughts into the game, I wasn't trying to be mean, but it is just what is flowing through my brain at the moment. Also, you can always mute someone, that is why they built it in the system. So back to my topic, I feel as though they should only get a permanent chat restriction instead of a permanent ban, and this will make League a more enjoyable game, especially to buy cool skins, or wards that are offered, because now you wouldn't have to worry about losing any amount of money that you spent on this game, and I believe that is fair justice.

This is just an opinion, and my opinion only, but the reason I posted this, was because I feel that people out in the community share my thoughts as well. If a lot of this doesn't make sense, it was probably because I have something else on my mind, and a little bit of me being sad that I can't play league anymore due to being "mean" that one time.

16 Comments

Cruk2 votes

They used to have perm chat restrictions, but that's not fair to players who are forced to be on your team who want to communicate in some peoples opinions. Bottom line for Riot basically is, be a model league player, if you're upset, then step away from the game if you can't control what you say. Riot should not have to censor you, or prevent you from lashing out at others, they're teaching their player base self control. If something is truly upsetting you, there is a mute button so you don't have to see the garbage being flung at you in the chat.

At the end of the day, Riot doesn't care what the context of the words you say are, they just care about the words, if you're rude or mean or just toxic towards other players, whether or not they're feeding purposefully or by accident, it still brings nothing positive to the game. Bad stuff happens, but that doesn't give everyone the excuse to just say whatever they want. Perm bans are Riot's way of saying "do you really want to call this guy a #@$&er at the expense of your account? or are you gonna show a little self control"

disregardable3 votes

that's not fair to players who are forced to be on your team who want to communicate in some peoples opinions. Riot should not have to censor you

Has nothing to do with it. Riot Lyte has said multiple times that pings are all you need to communicate. Lots of players disagree with that, but they do not speak for Riot, Lyte does. They addressed the reason they don't permanently chat restrict players in the Q+A. The first problem with permanent chat restricts is that it punishes players that successfully reformed, and the larger problem is that players that do not reform will find other ways to show toxicity, like ping spamming and intentionally feeding.

SacOfJaWeeda1 votes

Riot can always perm ban feeders if they wanted too, and to me, ping spamming is more helpful than a single ping haha. Not like i ping spam or anything

SacOfJaWeeda1 votes

eh I guess so, but I still believe a permanent ban is not a good way to resolve bad behavior, it isn't like if you say the F bomb, that you will be shipped off to prison. You have to do something more extreme to get a permanent ban, that is what I am trying to say. Also, permanent banning for just rude language can cause the person to become more aggravated, and they will just keep making more accounts, and keep on cussing and stuff. Believe me, I see so many mean people on League, ever since I had the game. Do they get banned? some, but not all. Also, Riot only gave me a 2 week ban, and then a perm ban after that. Like that will really help me? Please, if riot actually told me that that was my last warning, instead of fornicating with each other, maybe I would be a lot more cautious. A few more words from Riot could easily solve people's problems of getting banned. Also, how can I communicate with my team with a happy go fucking attitude if I had a bad day, and half asleep? (that is how I got banned i guess haha)

Bettnachleger2 votes

You had more then one chat restriction. Do you changed your behaviour? Obviously not ... So how the fuck would a perma chat restriction change anything? It doesn't work, and you're a good example for that.

And removing the whole chat thing would result in some kind of trolling (or some other kind of toxic behaviour): "mimimimi this guy doesn't deserve a win, because he is a retard! Mehhhhh, can't say him the truth that he is a retard ;-((((( I guess I go feed or afk jungle or what ever to lose the game for us ... I don't care as long as this fucking retard don't win!" Not for everyone, but at least some people would do it, and that's enough to discard your suggestion.

Sry for english

SacOfJaWeeda1 votes

I have changed my behavior, but League isn't a psychologist, so they shouldn't be the judge of the way I should be/act. Besides, on this account, i didn't ever get fucking chat restricted, I was automatically boosted to a 2 week ban, and then to a perm ban, and then Riot calls that "plenty of warnings." Like I am mad, because obviously, one warning isn't enough. What if i got a 3 week ban after the 2 week ban? Like maybe if riot actually fricken sent me all of the restrictions, and bans in the correct order, maybe I would still be playing the game. Also, You are a good example of league player, always trying to make the people who got banned feel bad, justifying your answer, and agreeing with Riot's policy.. How is your life at school mind if I ask?

TrulyBland3 votes

"I'm sorry, but I have the feeling you really shouldn't be stabbing that guy over there with that knife..." "Are you a doctor?" "No... but-" "Then stop judging me!"

There's no need for a psychologist to determine whether a certain kind of behaviour has a negative impact on the game.

And regarding warnings: Don't even try to blame Riot here. You got only one warning because you screwed up. You don't get an immediate two-week ban for somewhat negative behaviour... You get immediate two-week bans for behaviour you shouldn't need to be warned for in order to understand that it's not okay.

SacOfJaWeeda1 votes

See? all league players get stuck on the fact about me trying to get "unbanned." the topic of discussion is that riot should change the perm ban into perm chat restriction. You guys are probably scared that I will come bully you? Haha. people are different from the computer world, so you can't just judge me as a bad person for what I did on a video game. I am not asking to be unbanned, because nobody wants to support me on that, so I am asking the community if they think they should change perm ban to perm chat restriction. Look at it this way, would you rather be able to still play on your account that you spent 1K US dollars on, but not be able to talk in the chat? or would you rather be permanent banned, and not be able to use any of the money that you just lost to riobbers. (riot robbers haha). Besides, I see the chat as the easiest way to get permanently banned, so if I were Riot, I would just remove chat altogether, because they want us to play with so called friends, and such.

TrulyBland2 votes

This isn't really about you trying to get unbanned. But when your suggestion of a new system relies on a, in my opinion, wrong perception of the current system, then that is very relevant to the topic of dicussion. It was also you that brought up your own suspension; likely because your argument relies solely on the perspective of the banned. Of course I'd rather still be able to play than be banned. Just like people would probably rather be free than go to jail. And people would prefer to get everything in life for free rather than having to work.

The reason people prefer to argue about your suspension is because until you understand why you were permabanned, and until you take responsibility for your actions, it's pretty much pointless to even discuss this matter with you.

SacOfJaWeeda1 votes

i get what YOU are saying, but as a matter of fact, I KNOW why i got banned, but I don't believe that I should be banned for that. Fiddlesticks

Bettnachleger1 votes

I'm sorry if I make you feel bad. That wasn't my intention. I just wanted to show on you as a example, that a chat restriction nor a ban change the behaviour of some people. That's why I don't get your point. Why should a perma chatban change anything even if a temporary chatban or a timeban doesn't worked? And some pissed people would search for a other way to insult someone if they don't like his face or think he's a retard or what ever.

Btw what does

How is your life at school mind if I ask?

mean?

SacOfJaWeeda1 votes

oh, I am sorry about that, I was viewing these messages at 1 AM or so in the morning today, PST. The times that I got banned were all when I played the game too late. Maybe that can be an excuse to help me get unbanned? That I am not conscious enough to know what I am doing? haha. anyways, I am not really sure what I meant by, "how is your life at school mind if I ask." because I was really tired when I wrote these emails, but I think I know a lot of league players have the same personality, so maybe that? or something with bullying haha. Either way, my name says it all, I get high when I am tired haha. (I don't do drugs BTW.)

Dominick Destine1 votes

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I have changed my behavior, but League isn't a psychologist

Isn't Riot Lyte a licensed psychologist?

SacOfJaWeeda1 votes

Idk haha. but if Riot Lyte is, they didn't do a good job haha

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