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Perma Ban

WuTang91··4 votes·1,519 views

So I understand that I don't use the cleanest language at all times. But I am writing to try to lift my perma ban I was issued today. To start off I don't start arguments I stand up for myself. If people are old enough to lift the chat filters then they should be old enough to handle the words used. I received a chat restriction before but have no emails or anything. I don't understand how players who stick up for themselves when getting flammed by hateful players playing unranked can possibly be punished. Do you guys even look at the logs? Please reconsider I have spent good money on this game and refuse to put anything more in until this is even responded to. Oh and to all the people throwing down dislikes without responding, it's probably because you're the ones tooling on players trying to progress in peace and then reporting them for snapping back. What a great community! Hate me if you want but I'm speaking the truth. If a ban is what I get then so be it but it shows really bad customer service to shun one player and let the others off with justification. It's all so twisted.

28 Comments

Astôlfo3 votes

You don't get banned by sticking up for yourself when getting flamed by hateful player. You get banned for being the hateful player.

WuTang913 votes

so when someone is bashing on you for being a bad player or whatever they claim and you retaliate you're the bad guy? I mean sure two wrongs don't make a right but where is the line drawn I mean it's ridiculous. It's very backwards to punish one person for being verbally aggressive when the other parties are being equally obnoxious. Especially when they're the ones that instigated the complaints/negativity to begin with.

Hambone20133 votes

If both parties are reported than both parties will be punished. Riot doesn't care who started it. They care that there are now two ass holes ruining the game for the remaining players.

xMilkJuggernautx2 votes

We dont tend to report people because it seems like there is no justice in the long run. Especially when people on your own team is trying to convince players on the other team to report you. It really just doesn't make sense

AeroWaffle1 votes

Isn't that a self-fulfilling tactic?

If you don't report people, how are you to expect them to be punished?

Astôlfo4 votes

So what? What they did is irrelevant. Your behavior was permanent ban worthy. End of story.

xMilkJuggernautx2 votes

I'm sorry you don't know the full situation. Given that it seems unfair to comment on other peoples post.

Astôlfo2 votes

I don't need to know the full situation though.

xMilkJuggernautx1 votes

Then in my opinion you dont deserve to comment

Magical Player2 votes

Post chat logs

You don't go from nothing to perma ban typically. So either you've been punished in the past(6 months) or we're insnanly toxic triggering the perma ban from 1 game post chat logs to discuss further

WuTang912 votes

again I admitted to using fowl language. but this doesn't include the other players negative behavior. so with that being said. what good is posting the logs when it only shows my chat?

Timethief491 votes

It will Show us that you didn't use extreme language and will help US understand your situation

xMilkJuggernautx2 votes

Hi everyone. First I just want to apologize for my brother and to anyone he has hurt. WuTang is my brother irl and he is a good person he doesn't actually mean anything of what he says he just gets hotheaded sometimes. WuTang rarely is the start of the toxic comments but he does tend to go overboard. In the last game where he got banned the team was harassing him about feeding and that set him off. League of Legends is just a game and it shouldn't be taken too seriously we play to have fun. Plz forgive my brother and anything he said to offend anyone.

Zombiemaster2 votes

The reason why the chat logs only show what you said is because that is the only thing that matters when it comes to your own punishment. You are responsible for your behavior alone, not for anyone else's, as your behavior is the only thing you can control. What others say/do in the game doesn't matter, and their behavior is not an excuse for your own behavior. If others are being toxic towards you first, the best thing to do is to mute/ignore them to the best of your ability and report them after the game. If you retaliate back with your own toxic behavior, all you're doing is making a bad situation even worse, because now the rest of your team has to deal with one more person who's arguing and flaming and not focusing on the game. This is why Riot chooses to punish retaliation, because really nothing good comes from it.

As for the other players not receiving a punishment, the Instant Feedback system generally issues punishments for consistent toxic behavior. This allows people to have the occasional bad day, as Riot knows humans are prone to have. If the other players were not punished, it likely means that they don't behave like that too frequently, but you were punished because this type of behavior seems to be frequent for you.

Lastly, this particular punishment was a permanent ban due to your history with the IFS. There are 4 tiers of punishments:

1.) 10 game chat restriction 2.) 25 game chat restriction 3.) 14 day ban 4.) Permanent ban

Generally, most people will go through each tier one at a time, but it is possible to skip tiers if your behavior is severe enough. You admit to having a couple "slap on the wrists bans," which I'm going to assume are the 2 sets of chat restrictions, but you don't recall having a 14 day ban. Either you are simply forgetting, in which case the next step for you (this punishment) would be a permanent ban as expected, or your behavior was severe enough to skip the 14 day ban and be escalated straight to the permanent ban.

EDIT: I should probably mention, if you want to talk directly to Riot to try and appeal your permanent ban, then you will need to open a support ticket.

WuTang911 votes

ok so since you seem to be very knowledgeable about the system then what behavior is severe enough to skip bans. I mean to me that would be things like threatening someones life.

Zombiemaster1 votes

From what I've seen, hate speech and death threats are the main things people do that result in skipping punishment tiers. However, I have seen a few cases where the player skipped a tier for extreme negativity, like just an over abundance of insulting, harassing, and abusing another player. There very well could be other things that result in skipping tiers as well.

Of course, as someone else mentioned, as well as I in the edit of my original post, if you wish to talk to Riot directly about your ban, then you will need to open a support ticket. Be patient as it will most likely take some time to get a response back.

WuTang911 votes

{quoted}

From what I've seen, hate speech and death threats are the main things people do that result in skipping punishment tiers. However, I have seen a few cases where the player skipped a tier for extreme negativity, like just an over abundance of insulting, harassing, and abusing another player. There very well could be other things that result in skipping tiers as well.

Of course, as someone else mentioned, as well as I in the edit of my original post, if you wish to talk to Riot directly about your ban, then you will need to open a support ticket. Be patient as it will most likely take some time to get a response back.

ok thank you

Magical Player2 votes

Open a support ticket, this is the league boards, no one here can get you an appeal for a ban

Arbiters are very knowledgeable, show a little respect to them at the very least

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us here is the link for you takes time regardless of when you submit it

would still recommend you posting logs, its possible to show the cause of skipping punishment tiers, your call at the end of the day

WuTang911 votes

this is getting somewhere. thank you very much!

MISTAFUNKTASTIC1 votes

Post logs if you want any sympathy. In my opinion and experience reading threads like these, it's deserved 99% of the time.

WuTang911 votes

the only logs I have are the ones when I try to sign in telling me i'm banned. those do not include anyone else's comments. I do not have any documented logs or bans in my emails either. So i'm not sure where else I could find them.... and since we're on the topic I've received a couple brief "slap on the wrists" bans but I do not recall a 14 day ban where I couldn't play at all. I do however remember a ban where I couldn't receive boxes/keys for an indefinite period. that seemed to be a random duration though and was essentially described as "until we feel like the community notices positive changes," kind of ordeal.

Timethief491 votes

I don't want to Sound rude, but the rule on the Boards is chatlogs or it didn't Happen. If the System bans you and complain about it in here noone will believe you. If you really Just used Foul language let US der it. Talking arround it Just makes you less and less trustable in here. Hope you understand that.

WuTang911 votes

{quoted}

I don't want to Sound rude, but the rule on the Boards is chatlogs or it didn't Happen. If the System bans you and complain about it in here noone will believe you. If you really Just used Foul language let US der it. Talking arround it Just makes you less and less trustable in here. Hope you understand that.

not to be rude but i don't care about your opinion unless you can help me do something about it. unlike your post help was given and greatly received. case closed thanks

Timethief491 votes

Yeah See you after you get the bot answer from the supportticket ^^

Magical Player1 votes

Post what you said, those are the logs. We all can infer what was said between what you typed and whats not shown Edit in progress Nobody can understand what was said, unless you post the reform card that is shown when you log into the client. In addition you've mentioned you've been punished prior "slap on the wrist" guessing chat restrictions the punishment can increase even with you not becoming more toxic, as you have not become less toxic either. The idea you're suppose to become a better person, not remain toxic. So if you did not improve after the chat restrictions the next step is a 14 day ban, final step is perma ban. But please post the chat logs of the reform card you were given

WuTang911 votes

i'll say it again i'm not posting a half "log". it doesn't demonstrate anything other than me using foul language (which again I have admitted too and does not help my case). anyone can infer what the other parties say and make it worse for me than what is fair. if a perma ban is what is deemed fair by Riot then so be it my money is better spent elsewhere anyway. in addition unless you're a moderator or someone who can get my case considered for a lift i'm wasting my breath anyway. i've never been banned to the point where i couldn't play at all. so i'm not sure if i ever got a 14 day ban. like i said i've received chat bans and bans on loot but no bans where i couldn't play at all. i hope i don't come off as rude but i'm trying to get to a source where I can appeal this and not sit here spinning my tires.

2 Weezy Baby1 votes

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i'll say it again i'm not posting a half "log". it doesn't demonstrate anything other than me using foul language (which again I have admitted too and does not help my case). anyone can infer what the other parties say and make it worse for me than what is fair. if a perma ban is what is deemed fair by Riot then so be it my money is better spent elsewhere anyway. in addition unless you're a moderator or someone who can get my case considered for a lift i'm wasting my breath anyway. i've never been banned to the point where i couldn't play at all. so i'm not sure if i ever got a 14 day ban. like i said i've received chat bans and bans on loot but no bans where i couldn't play at all. i hope i don't come off as rude but i'm trying to get to a source where I can appeal this and not sit here spinning my tires.

Permabanned. Hahhahaha dude stop trying you're done.

Magical Player1 votes

KYS, racial slurs, homophobic remarks.... Things that are generally deemed inappropriate consistent harassment going out of your way to troll someone I'm not an expert nor do i know the exact rules, just my 2 cents. From what has been shown on the forums in the past

Again your chat logs would show that.

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