My Story (Mingsai from NA server)

Mingsai·6/4/2016, 8:19:18 PM·2 votes·1,267 views

Hello everyone, I just wanted to share my story with all the summoners out there and hopefully you guys will think twice before purchasing more RP. I will post the text from the thread between me and riot below but before I do that, I will just post a quick summary of what happened...

A few days ago my account got permanently banned for no real reason. I have been playing league for about 4-5 years now with no history of suspensions or bans and the only 3rd party programs I have used were teamspeak and LOLWIZ. Riot said that these programs were not the reason for why I was banned. Please read my story below just so you can be more cautious yourself. Everyone can have their opinions on whether or not I did cheat but I know that I honestly have never cheated before other than using Teamspeak and LOLWIZ which Riot says in the thread is allowed. My rank this season is gold which is actually lower than my previous 2 seasons in which I was Platinum so I don't really see how Riot believes I have cheated. They basically have banned my account permanently and saying they have evidence but are not willing provide any proof. In the end, the thing I am frustrated with the most is the fact that Riot has taken away 4-5 years worth of IP that I have earned fairly and a few hundred dollars worth of RP that I have invested into the account. They have the ability to do this at their own will without providing any proof. I know that they have some sort of security system in place to detect cheaters but it just doesn't make sense to me in my case because my rank is lower than in the past... I am losing more games than winning. Once again, summoners please read my story below and take whatever lessons away from it and use the knowledge before you guys decide to purchase more RP. As for myself, I love league of legends and I will for sure make a new account but I will never ever purchase RP again just in case Riot ever decides to ban my account again for no valid reason.

Here are the detailed thread message between Riot and I below:

Mingsai: Dear Riot, I am not sure if this is the proper place to contact you for more information regarding my banned account (Mingsai) on the NA server. I just wanted to get more information regarding for why I was banned. It says that I was banned for using 3rd party programs but the only program I used was overwolf's teamspeak and LOLWiz. I have been playing league of legends for the past 4 to 5 years and I have been using overwolf's LOLWiz for the past maybe year and haven't had any issues. I thought it was okay to use someone posted it was okay to use on riot's forums (see this link http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/ao7rYcrT-riot-i-hope-youre-not-okay-with-this). As far as I know, I have not used any other 3rd party programs to gain an advantage over other players in league. I was wondering if you could just please give me an update or provide me with any information regarding why I was banned. I have played and enjoyed playing LOL for the past 4-5 years and I would never do anything to give myself an advantage over other players.

Riot Swainren: Hello Tonypham14,

Your account has been permanently suspended following the use of scripts, hacks, exploits or unauthorized third-party programs in League of Legends. Accounts that are caught using hacks to gain an unfair competitive advantage are subject to permanent suspension. We work hard to preserve a fair and competitive environment in League of Legends. Regardless of intent, use of unauthorized third-party programs is explicitly against the Terms of Use, which can be found here:

NA: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/legal/termsofuse

Keep in mind that account sharing of any kind is also against the Terms of Use. You are responsible for all activity on your account, so be sure to keep your account information to yourself.

We won't be able to go into the specifics of an account's exploit abuse, as divulging this information could compromise future investigations. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

SwainRen Player Support Specialist Swag Tactician of Noxus

Mingsai: Hello SwainRen, Thank you for your response. Would you be able to tell me if I was banned for using teamspeak or LOLWIZ? Does riot allow summoners to use these programs? If they are allowed, I am really stunned about why I have been banned. I have never used any scripts or modifications to league besides those 2 programs above. If you could let me know if I was banned for using teamspeak or LOLWIZ or something else that would be great. I honestly have never cheated and have been playing league for about 5 years and have also invested a decent amount of money into skins. I am very saddened by the ban because I have never cheated. I am not sure what was detected. Is there any way that riot could reinvestigate my account because I know I have only used teamspeak and LOLWIZ, which I know many other summoners use also. If not, is there any possibility to have my account suspended for a period of time instead of permanently? I love league and I honestly never used any hacks or cheats others that what I said above. Please let me know. Thanks!

Riot Firefang: Summoner,

We have a Player Behavior team in place dedicated to working with these requests, so I need to transfer your ticket. A Player Behavior Specialist will be contacting you as soon as they can.

Please keep in mind that we respond to tickets in the order we receive them, so ‘bumping’ your ticket by sending us additional messages will send it to the back of our queue. This might inadvertently delay our response :(

Thank you for your patience!

FireFang Player Support Specialist Riot Games

Mingsai: Thanks. I appreciate it. I will wait until they contact me.

Riot Two To Tango: Hey Summoner,

Our system has very clear evidence that this account was in violation of our Terms of Use due to the usage of scripts, hacks, exploits or unauthorized third-party programs in the game. After I took another look at your account, this was not a mistake. Using Teamspeak or LOLWIZ alone did not lead to this perma-ban.

To protect the integrity of our investigative methods, I will not be sharing more detailed evidence or specific details. We will not be lifting the ban on this account under any circumstances.

Two To Tango Player Behavior and Game Support Caitlyn ADC

Mingsai: Thank you for your response. I just wanted to let you know my thoughts on the whole situation. As a summoner who has had no history of suspensions or bans for the past 4 or 5 years, I just wanted to let Riot know that I am saddened by the outcome. I can understand the ban if I indeed did cheat... but I know I never did. My clean history should give you guys an idea of whether or not I did cheat... my rank this season is actually gold which is lower than the previous two seasons where I was platinum... if I was cheating, shouldn't I be higher rank? I understand that whatever you guys used detected something suspicious but I wanted to say that it is evident that it is not 100% accurate in detecting cheaters. I guess I will just have to accept the ban and start over. I wanted to just make Riot aware that because of this inaccurate detection or glitch, riot has taken away my 4 or 5 years of ip and rp which is prob a few hundred dollars... I will start a new account again which will suck... and all the victorious skins that I earned on my old account will never be obtained again on my new account... but now I know that since my account can be randomly stolen away from me, I will never ever purchase RP ever again. Thank you for reading about my frustration. I know there is no real way to prove that I didn't cheat but I hope Riot re-evaluates their security system because it definitely isn't accurate. Thanks.

Riot Two To Tango: Hey Summoner,

Your rank in the game does not necessarily have to reflect any use of scripts, hacks, etc.; many players use these methods and don't increase in rank. Hey Summoner,

For our part we don't want any player to be unfairly banned and it is exactly for that reason that we are very careful when we do have to permanently suspend any account. After personally reviewing and investigating your account, I am very confident in the results of our investigation. If you feel that this makes you not want to spend money in the game, I can understand but it won't change our stance in this matter.

Two To Tango Player Behavior and Game Support Caitlyn ADC

19 Comments

ShinkoMinori6/4/2016, 8:45:56 PM3 votes

We have evidence but we wont provide it. Sounds bullshit to me.

ChadTDubbs6/4/2016, 9:26:31 PM1 votes

Ya, I got the same email (May 31) and same responses from them not to long ago. I was on vacation in Florida for a week and when I came back. Low and behold, the ban hammer. I believe that you are a clean and truly honest person. I'm not trying to insult or criticize you, but I'm also in the wrong. I've never once used scripts or did any modifications to the League Client itself. I believe that they should at least provide us with a little more evidence than just saying "Because you were scripting and we can not provide any further information or detail." Let alone all the money that was spent in the game, all the sentimental value and time that has gone into that account and game. I played since season 1 (though on and off), only been suspended once because of leaving some many games because of a crappy computer (season 1 or 2), and then a random ban (season 6). If anything, I wish they took into consideration our track record of goodness. I suppose that mystery chest for good behavior was bullshit. Tbh, I'm torn that this had to happen. Currently there is no drive to start from scratch, and if I ever come back, definitely not spending a dime to be wasted for something that I do not know the cause of.

Icestar11866/6/2016, 10:06:15 PM1 votes

Check your match history. It's possible you were hacked.

ChadTDubbs6/9/2016, 9:07:43 AM1 votes

I honestly don't see an issue in providing evidence that is being used against us. It's not like we are asking them about their system and the methods. I understand if something that I downloaded, unrelated to League, caused it to f*ck up, but I want to know, as Transcendent said "to know the exact crime that he committed." If it is graphics related, then why aren't more people complaining about it. Graphics Card: EVGA 750 Ti SC