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Chat/hextech crafting ban appeal?

LionOfHate··1 votes·431 views

I don't curse, I do not call other people names, I show frustration sometimes but again, I keep out insults. So why was I chat banned and banned from hextech crafting? I did nothing wrong, honestly. I am confused. I had a game where a khazix let me die 2v1 and I asked what he was doing and why he ignored my fight, he called me the N word and a bunch of names, yet I am the one who gets reported/chat banned/hextech banned? I am super confused. Why did I get banned if I didn't curse or call anyone names or insult them? It's like the inmates run the asylum and they just ban without looking at the evidence.

Am I not allowed to be human and show anything but happiness? I got a 10 game chat ban limit, how long will the hextech crafting stay out of my reach if I stay on good behavior and only mention positive things like a mental ward patient on happy drugs? Is there anyway to appeal this and actually be heard? Thanks guys

8 Comments

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

If you were banned for chat offenses by the Instant Feedback System, you should've been given a reform card in-client and through email. This would include chat logs from up to 3 games that contributed to the punishment. If you want to discuss whether your behavior was punishable with the community you should provide those logs. If you only wish to speak to Riot you'll need to submit a Support Ticket, but Riot will typically not reduce or remove a punishment unless it was done in error.

ModPrandine1 votes

For your chat restriction, we can't help you if you don't post your entire unedited Reform Card here first. For your Hextech Crafting Restriction, from the Hextech Crafting Restrictions FAQ:

Why am I still ineligible for crafting rewards after my punishment ends? The reform period lasts longer than the punishment duration. Show consistent improved behavior, and you'll become eligible again in no time.

Why can't you tell me exactly when I'm going to be eligible? Eligibility is dependent on a consistent display of good sportsmanship, not just "be nice in X number of games or days." Negative behavior during this reform period will cause it to last longer.

How long does it usually take for someone to be eligible again? There is no specific timeframe for eligibility, and the length of the reform period may vary on a case by case basis. It all depends on the severity of your punishment, and on your behavior moving forward.

LionOfHate1 votes

Here is my chat lag, so yes I showed frustration but how is this worthy of being banned AT ALL? Wow:/

Game 1 LionOfHate: blood moon crew LionOfHate: braum is rad LionOfHate: love having him on team LionOfHate: lucky malph LionOfHate: k LionOfHate: i havent seen you either yet jg LionOfHate: because i got ganked by elise LionOfHate: naw its not LionOfHate: their jg is way more active LionOfHate: hope so LionOfHate: wow 4-1 LionOfHate: WOW LionOfHate: jesus christ LionOfHate: no mia either LionOfHate: gj LionOfHate: my patienceis wearing thin thats the 4th gank ive had to LionOfHate: terrible noct LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: i lvoe excuses LionOfHate: its really hard for you to speak english as well. LionOfHate: no mia? LionOfHate: get your tf out of top LionOfHate: gj kalist LionOfHate: 3 top LionOfHate: SO LionOfHate: BAD LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: and muted LionOfHate: exactly LionOfHate: noct is horrible LionOfHate: because my jg never comes top LionOfHate: 1v1 me elise LionOfHate:  LionOfHate: fam? youre white LionOfHate: harrasment reported LionOfHate: yea and there was 5 of them LionOfHate: and report me i didnt do anything wrong so do it LionOfHate: cursing at someone is harrasment have fun being banned LionOfHate: riot is super sensitive bout it watch LionOfHate: lol see LionOfHate: nothing LionOfHate: its gg LionOfHate: go for it LionOfHate: im playing and not being toxic, i didnt see our jg for 15 minutes LionOfHate: report my team , harassment and hate speech have fun LionOfHate: plz report them for real they are using racial sluts LionOfHate: slurs LionOfHate: help me plz they are using racial slurs LionOfHate: see LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: report them plz thx

Game 2 LionOfHate: i want you to be good TF LionOfHate: yi mid is op LionOfHate: i poke with my Q LionOfHate: ahri will B every couple minutes LionOfHate: watch LionOfHate: naw LionOfHate: ill start owning at 6 LionOfHate: ish LionOfHate: nvm LionOfHate: bot LionOfHate: gg LionOfHate: hahah gj guys LionOfHate: same LionOfHate: its jinx lol LionOfHate: welp LionOfHate: jinx youre feeding too LionOfHate: yas LionOfHate: lol welp LionOfHate: if i ever got a gank lol LionOfHate: havent seen tf once LionOfHate: yea its gg LionOfHate: thx LionOfHate: take mid tf ill jg LionOfHate: i can gank LionOfHate: jesus christ LionOfHate: if i got a real gank LionOfHate: i would not be doing bad LionOfHate: gj guys LionOfHate: gg LionOfHate: plz ff at 20 LionOfHate: im roaming LionOfHate: andn o you dont LionOfHate: we have ONE kil LionOfHate: we lost LionOfHate: ONE KILL LionOfHate: reporting you too jinx LionOfHate: you fed most LionOfHate: im jging now LionOfHate: there we go LionOfHate: im jging now LionOfHate: gj mid LionOfHate: go mid tf LionOfHate: i can actually jf LionOfHate: jg LionOfHate: top next k yas? LionOfHate: yes LionOfHate: im jging LionOfHate: go mid LionOfHate: naw you didnt LionOfHate: its my jg now LionOfHate: for trying to win? LionOfHate: flash down LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: cursing LionOfHate: thanks for red khaz LionOfHate: go mid tf LionOfHate: lol so bad LionOfHate: yea dont die though lol LionOfHate: LET ME JG LionOfHate: see what i can do? LionOfHate: and trying to win LionOfHate: gj yas LionOfHate: what LionOfHate: no LionOfHate: you cant jg LionOfHate: he is terrible LionOfHate: i took over jg and im the only one doing anything LionOfHate: and yas LionOfHate: someone come bot with me LionOfHate: lol nope LionOfHate: no but you are with 5/7 score lol LionOfHate: atleast I have a positive K/D LionOfHate: reported and muted LionOfHate: how do i have more CS than my ADC? lol LionOfHate: so bad LionOfHate: coming mid LionOfHate: this yi doe LionOfHate: gj guys LionOfHate: yea im the bad player on my team lol LionOfHate: so what? my team is a joke besides yas LionOfHate: comign jinx LionOfHate: ult in 20 LionOfHate: wow LionOfHate: 0-8 tf so salty LionOfHate: igot bot LionOfHate: coming jinx LionOfHate: gj yas LionOfHate: i got top LionOfHate: comeback LionOfHate: gj laist LionOfHate: alist LionOfHate: cant believe we are coming back ha LionOfHate: yea they are LionOfHate: sorry for being a douche guys LionOfHate: just got annoyed LionOfHate: we need next drag LionOfHate: gj tf LionOfHate: goin top LionOfHate: get drag LionOfHate: im coming LionOfHate: gj bot LionOfHate: gj tf LionOfHate: i was wrong LionOfHate: they are at baron LionOfHate: gj guys LionOfHate: gj alist LionOfHate: can someone tell me how we came back from that ha LionOfHate: k baron LionOfHate: coming LionOfHate: k LionOfHate: coming LionOfHate: so dumb LionOfHate: stunned into oblivion LionOfHate: 10 seconds LionOfHate: keep em out LionOfHate: lol gg ok LionOfHate: gg

TheSequelsRBad2 votes

It is perfectly acceptable to get frustrated and angry in League.

It is NOT acceptable to bring you anger and frustration into the chat. You may disagree, but those are the rules, and Riot will enforce their rules.

If someone is being negative, or cursing you out, you ignore them, mute if you wish, and then report them. They will get punished, you won't. If you respond, you will both get punished. Riot doesn't care who "started it."

ModPrandine1 votes

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Here is my chat lag, so yes I showed frustration but how is this worthy of being banned AT ALL? Wow:/

Game 1 LionOfHate: my patienceis wearing thin thats the 4th gank ive had to

A sign of bad things to come.

LionOfHate: terrible noct LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: i lvoe excuses LionOfHate: its really hard for you to speak english as well.

First off, report calling is considered harassment. Secondly, that fourth line is very disrespectful and not needed.

LionOfHate: no mia? LionOfHate: get your tf out of top

Rude, but not report worthy by itself.

LionOfHate: SO LionOfHate: BAD LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: and muted

Again, no need to call for reports. Shouting "reported" isn't gonna magically change anything so don't bother.

LionOfHate: exactly LionOfHate: noct is horrible LionOfHate: because my jg never comes top

So jungler not coming top= they're horrible?

LionOfHate: fam? youre white

Okay, what does this have to do with anything?

LionOfHate: harrasment reported

You're the one doing the harassing here in this game.

LionOfHate: yea and there was 5 of them LionOfHate: and report me i didnt do anything wrong so do it LionOfHate: cursing at someone is harrasment have fun being banned LionOfHate: riot is super sensitive bout it watch

And here we go, the whole "you're just sensitive so who cares?" argument. Cursing by itself isn't punishable, but cursing at others is. Most people would likely stop here and hit punish. Obviously you did do something wrong if you're being punished.

LionOfHate: lol see LionOfHate: nothing

I beg to differ.

LionOfHate: im playing and not being toxic, i didnt see our jg for 15 minutes

Your jungler didn't do what you wanted so you decided to harass them because of it. That is being toxic.

LionOfHate: report my team , harassment and hate speech have fun LionOfHate: plz report them for real they are using racial sluts LionOfHate: slurs LionOfHate: help me plz they are using racial slurs LionOfHate: see LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: report them plz thx

More report calling and victim blaming. Who cares what others do? What matters is your behavior alone.

My verdict: Punish.

Game 2 LionOfHate: nvm LionOfHate: bot LionOfHate: gg

LionOfHate: jinx youre feeding too

Not helpful.

LionOfHate: if i ever got a gank lol LionOfHate: havent seen tf once

I can see where this is going.

LionOfHate: yea its gg LionOfHate: take mid tf ill jg LionOfHate: i can gank LionOfHate: jesus christ LionOfHate: if i got a real gank LionOfHate: i would not be doing bad LionOfHate: plz ff at 20 LionOfHate: im roaming LionOfHate: andn o you dont

Once again complaining about not getting a gank and giving up early.

LionOfHate: reporting you too jinx LionOfHate: you fed most

So having a bad game=feeding?

LionOfHate: im jging now LionOfHate: there we go LionOfHate: im jging now LionOfHate: gj mid LionOfHate: go mid tf LionOfHate: i can actually jf LionOfHate: jg LionOfHate: yes LionOfHate: im jging LionOfHate: go mid LionOfHate: naw you didnt LionOfHate: its my jg now

So you're trying to force TF to mid while you jungle, somehow thinking you can do better when your team apparently only has one kill to its name.

LionOfHate: reported LionOfHate: cursing

Again, cursing by itself is not punishable, but cursing at others is.

LionOfHate: go mid tf LionOfHate: lol so bad LionOfHate: yea dont die though lol LionOfHate: LET ME JG

You are not the team leader.

LionOfHate: what LionOfHate: no LionOfHate: you cant jg LionOfHate: he is terrible LionOfHate: i took over jg and im the only one doing anything LionOfHate: and yas LionOfHate: someone come bot with me LionOfHate: lol nope LionOfHate: no but you are with 5/7 score lol LionOfHate: atleast I have a positive K/D LionOfHate: reported and muted LionOfHate: how do i have more CS than my ADC? lol LionOfHate: so bad LionOfHate: this yi doe LionOfHate: yea im the bad player on my team lol LionOfHate: so what? my team is a joke besides yas LionOfHate: Wow LionOfHate: 0-8 tf so salty

How is any of this helpful or encouraging or needed?

LionOfHate: cant believe we are coming back ha LionOfHate: yea they are LionOfHate: sorry for being a douche guys LionOfHate: just got annoyed

Wasn't expecting this. I understand wanting to win, but becoming a jerk and a negative nancy isn't gonna help your team win. If anything it's gonna help your team lose instead.

LionOfHate: lol gg ok LionOfHate: gg

Decent.

Not as bad as game 1, but still punish worthy. My verdict: Punish.

Conclusion:

You're a very competitive person just like me. However, when things go wrong you blame your jungler (or other members of your team) and try to boss your team around in a very disrespectful manner. You also call for reports allot and try to pass the blame onto other people instead of you.

I will say at least you apologized for your behavior in game 2. That is something we never see here in Reform Cards. However, you were still being a jerk to your teammates and thus deserve a punishment.

Advice:

  • Stop blaming your jungler for everything wrong. The jungler can't be everywhere at once and when you harass them you make it less likely that they'll come to your lane.
  • Report calling is not only considered harassment, but it rarely changes anything in the game, so don't do it.
  • The whole "sensitivity" argument is just a flimsy excuse to be a bully or a jerk. Bullies and jerks get in trouble for their poor behavior, and this is exactly what happened to you here since you were both a bully and a jerk.
  • Try to be more positive in-game. If you make a mistake, own up to it rather than try to pin the blame on someone else. How do you expect to improve yourself if you refuse to ever take responsibility for your actions?

My overall and final verdict: Punish.

LionOfHate1 votes

I posted the whole chat log it says I got chat banned for, so what did I do wrong?

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Blaming your teammates, threatening them with reports, lobbying to get them mass reported, and it even looks like you were trying to force your jungler out of his role (which as a gameplay offense would be something that could contribute to an account ban).

If your team just isn't playing well, getting on their case isn't going to help. If you give them shit about you being ganked they are probably not going to be very receptive to your requests for help.

You don't need to ask others to mass report a player. That is considered harassment; let the other players decide on their own whether they want to report or not. I doubt you enjoy when someone else tries to get you mass reported. If they are consistently toxic and people report them they'll have their punishment coming.

If you are unsure what kind of behavior is considered sportsmanlike, I recommend reading the following articles;

The Summoner's Code Behavior Worthy of a Champion

LionOfHate1 votes

ok thanks guys ill work on it in the future

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