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Banned..What could I have done to been a better teammate

Hyper Carry Leal··5 votes·1,692 views

Got perma ban and well I would say I more than likely deserved it. Would really appreciate any feedback on what I could do to be a better teammate or prevent anything close to this sort of thing happening. Thank you in advance.

Game 1 Hyper Carry Leal: he is starting red you should of just done blue =p Hyper Carry Leal: it's k Hyper Carry Leal: just watch out for him Hyper Carry Leal: atually he is at blue Hyper Carry Leal: why did you go there Hyper Carry Leal: and not the other turret Hyper Carry Leal: you just fed my lane on purpose Hyper Carry Leal: just help me next time Hyper Carry Leal: srsly Hyper Carry Leal: no i didn't Hyper Carry Leal: you had to help me Hyper Carry Leal: no Hyper Carry Leal: it's bad enough that xin died to my lane on purpose Hyper Carry Leal: now he has a 2nd kill Hyper Carry Leal: cool Hyper Carry Leal: so glad you didn't hit 6 Hyper Carry Leal: don't push it Hyper Carry Leal: you're pushing it Hyper Carry Leal: by doing that Hyper Carry Leal: ill be by your lane soon to help you push too Hyper Carry Leal: raging? i just said don't push it Hyper Carry Leal: and you continue to do so Hyper Carry Leal: keep it up bro don't worry i'm not getting any help from my jg lmao Hyper Carry Leal: camp me all day and get fed Hyper Carry Leal: wp annie Hyper Carry Leal: wp annie Hyper Carry Leal: shaco the god Hyper Carry Leal: wp Hyper Carry Leal: good teamwork you 3 Hyper Carry Leal: going to keep pressureing side lanes Hyper Carry Leal: not if you let me pressure lanes Hyper Carry Leal: then it's 4v4 or 3v4 Hyper Carry Leal: kat so toxic Hyper Carry Leal: you got ganks i didn't i'm doing fine pressuring side lanes Hyper Carry Leal: you fight when you shouldn't Hyper Carry Leal: anyways muted for toxic Hyper Carry Leal: you all are fed from xin ganking i'm not i need cs Hyper Carry Leal: gonna keep pushing out side lanes Hyper Carry Leal: till i get another item Hyper Carry Leal: plus i have an ultimate that lets me get to you Hyper Carry Leal: i'm not a tank Hyper Carry Leal: sorry Hyper Carry Leal: you refused to gank i need items to get tanky Hyper Carry Leal: i got 0 help top from our jg i need to wait for items Hyper Carry Leal: so wait for my items Hyper Carry Leal: i'm just muting you all again Hyper Carry Leal: why do you all engage Hyper Carry Leal: ? Hyper Carry Leal: report for pushing side lanes? Hyper Carry Leal: my team wants to report me for them losing fights Hyper Carry Leal: they think that me not being kat 24 7 all in Hyper Carry Leal: i said i need an item Hyper Carry Leal: they can't wait for it Hyper Carry Leal: they just keep fighting Hyper Carry Leal: i'm reporting kat for toxic Hyper Carry Leal: verbal Hyper Carry Leal: i understand you are mad we are losing Hyper Carry Leal: but no need to be toxic Hyper Carry Leal: i tank there and i die really fast Hyper Carry Leal: because i'm not tanky enough Hyper Carry Leal: i need one more item Hyper Carry Leal: caught? Hyper Carry Leal: i got bard ulted with all of you Hyper Carry Leal: and then focused Hyper Carry Leal: but you have more deaths Hyper Carry Leal: we need pressure and i need an item Hyper Carry Leal: you're the one with most deaths Hyper Carry Leal: you got fed Hyper Carry Leal: and have low cs Hyper Carry Leal: xin you can be on toxic person side Hyper Carry Leal: toxic is toxic Hyper Carry Leal: muted and reported its amazing how much you support toxic behaviour Hyper Carry Leal: xin is 2 6 Hyper Carry Leal: you're 11 98 Hyper Carry Leal: how is this all my fault Hyper Carry Leal: it'a s team game Hyper Carry Leal: gg you all Hyper Carry Leal: you all were better Hyper Carry Leal: my team blames me for this team game Hyper Carry Leal: but gg you all were too good

Game 2 Hyper Carry Leal: ward my blue at 130 Hyper Carry Leal: if rengar shows blue go collapse Hyper Carry Leal: why Hyper Carry Leal: don't ppl collapse Hyper Carry Leal: when i ping Hyper Carry Leal: srsly Hyper Carry Leal: easy kill Hyper Carry Leal: no you didn't Hyper Carry Leal: you were pushed and had an ez collapse Hyper Carry Leal: you just turned back becsue you wanted to Hyper Carry Leal: i give you all easy stuff to do lmao Hyper Carry Leal: and ou just let it slip Hyper Carry Leal: nah Hyper Carry Leal: i can't do anything for you sorry Hyper Carry Leal: the non help early has me in farm mode Hyper Carry Leal: if you were a tank champ we win this tee Hyper Carry Leal: but tee isn't hot Hyper Carry Leal: free blue Hyper Carry Leal: care rengar but free buff Hyper Carry Leal: just walk to the edge of wall next time lmao Hyper Carry Leal: free red tee Hyper Carry Leal: tee go get red Hyper Carry Leal: no Hyper Carry Leal: go get red damn man listen Hyper Carry Leal: next time Hyper Carry Leal: go get red teemo Hyper Carry Leal: then you'll get help Hyper Carry Leal: you jjust walked back and forth Hyper Carry Leal: next time go get red when i first ask you to Hyper Carry Leal: so i can help; you gank with true dmg and a slow Hyper Carry Leal: instead of wanting to do RH with no sweep Hyper Carry Leal: teemo what you building Hyper Carry Leal: frozen mallet? Hyper Carry Leal: you should have just built mr with slow Hyper Carry Leal: jinx come red Hyper Carry Leal: teemo is basically afk top Hyper Carry Leal: push it Hyper Carry Leal: don't b Hyper Carry Leal: dude singed was mid and you backed Hyper Carry Leal: lmao Hyper Carry Leal: i'm ruined this game Hyper Carry Leal: no jg Hyper Carry Leal: teemo went frozen mallet build Hyper Carry Leal: when he needed to go ap with liandry Hyper Carry Leal: for singed Hyper Carry Leal: and rylai for the kite Hyper Carry Leal: you know you all are cjg me Hyper Carry Leal: push the lanes take that cs Hyper Carry Leal: you talking to me? Hyper Carry Leal: lmao Hyper Carry Leal: man i shield jinx Hyper Carry Leal: and she doesn't turn and aa Hyper Carry Leal: just continues running Hyper Carry Leal: we srsly just peeled rengar off you ...just aa him after Hyper Carry Leal: and help us Hyper Carry Leal: we would have both lived Hyper Carry Leal: and got baron or an ace Hyper Carry Leal: thirsty Hyper Carry Leal: take red Hyper Carry Leal: it's free Hyper Carry Leal: teemo shroom up baron Hyper Carry Leal: plz Hyper Carry Leal: shroom it up Hyper Carry Leal: so if they go Hyper Carry Leal: why no team with me Hyper Carry Leal: i caught cait out of position Hyper Carry Leal: why are you all just trying to push cs Hyper Carry Leal: we have to get a catch and we can win Hyper Carry Leal: cait was by herself Hyper Carry Leal: ryze was top Hyper Carry Leal: that was free for us :( Hyper Carry Leal: gg you all Hyper Carry Leal: gl on future games Hyper Carry Leal: they are trying to blame me i'm sure Hyper Carry Leal: for this loss Hyper Carry Leal: it's ok Hyper Carry Leal: i'm reporting teemo for asking for a report Hyper Carry Leal: that's negative attitude there and ill report him for feed Hyper Carry Leal: it's somehow my fault his lane didn't win lmao Hyper Carry Leal: we can't stop them though Hyper Carry Leal: 2 of us Hyper Carry Leal: gg though Hyper Carry Leal: was fun rengar you wre good

60 Comments

Jo0o5 votes

People don't appreciate having their every move judged, micromanaged, and commented on. There are ways to give advice and be helpful ("Hey Teemo, I think a [x item here] build would serve you better against a Singed"), but you were aggressively commanding to your team. It seems like every perceived mistake they make deserves five comments admonishing them, in your mind. Really, there just is never a good reason to be typing this much.

You aren't always going to have perfect teammates. Accept that they'll make mistakes, and move on.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

You're absolutely right. I did get a little out of hand and i'm sorry for that. During games it's sometimes hard to stop yourself when you're in an intense game. I will work on doing what you said recommending things in a better manner. Thank you for the advice.

Talisid1 votes

I agree with this. I've had players like this on my team before and it gets really annoying.

I mean I could write a paragraph telling you why I took actions x, y and z and not the thing that you asked me to do but I really don't have time to be typing in chat there is a game to win. I'm furiously trying to not fail at last hitting, not get ganked not lose trades all at once I can't be writing you a wordy response.

Often times the people doing this stuff aren't even wrong! I make mistakes all the time, sometimes I even notice them. Often times you don't have to tell me I fucked up its already obvious by the way that the game is going.

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

Nothing even remotely close to being worthy of a permaban there, but people on this forum will likely tell you it was deserved anyway.

Astôlfo2 votes

It was deserving of a punishment. That is more than enough. It doesn't have to be permaban worthy. He had already gotten a 2-week in August. He was on his last strike/chance.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Thanks for confirming what I said.

Astôlfo2 votes

The chat itself wasn't permaban worthy. The sum of everything the OP did was permaban worthy.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

If what I did in the past caused this then I am very sorry to anyone I may have caused trouble for in past games. I just feel like I had improved over the time. As I see from my ban I probably didn't improve. I will work hard to be better in any way possible for the future.

Astôlfo2 votes

As future reference, ban strikes decrease after exactly 3 months time (eg, March 21st 2016 09:48:33 AM to June 21st 2016 09:48:33 AM) by one tier. So if you got a 14 day ban in March, then did something deserving of a punishment that wouldn't skip tiers again on June at 09:48:34 AM, you'd get another 14-day.

You can improve, I believe in you. Just be careful. I understand, League can be infuriating at times. Venting out loud (if you won't bother anyone in real life obviously) instead of chatting can help, or simply taking a break. Another thing to remember is that it is very unlikely you will play with them again for any significant number of games, and so there's even less reason to let it get to you.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

You're right. I should just be taking breaks after a couple of games. I was a month off that decrease and felt I was doing so well. I let it slip and this happened so I will be doing my best to improve my attitude overall for the better. Thank you for the advice it is greatly appreciated.

Astôlfo2 votes

It's good you seem to at least honestly care about reforming and realize/regret what you did. That's more than I can say of most in your position.

No problem. Always glad to help the ones who deserve the help and are willing to change.

Kei1432 votes

Stop typing anything non gameplay related.

Esp after 14-day ban.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Will do. Thank you for the advice.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

I am sure I had some bad games as those were bad. I am just not sure what is worthy or what I could do besides not typing to my team. I know that not being able to type and just pings alone won't always help the game lead to a victory. I love to learn and gain more knowledge and exp from others. Just not sure what I can do. :(

GarthBrooksXD1 votes

ive been punished about as much as tyler1.... ok not even close... but now when I'm thinking of complaining or saying anything negative even if its right I just erase it and keep playing because it really never helps and just distracts your you and your team and gets you banned </3.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

That's true I should probably do that. When an enemy teammate is bashing me I usually try to mute but I just feel like communication is key to victory. Maybe I let those games get to me a little too much. I am just confused as to what got me perma ban. Maybe I type too much but again that's just something I love to do with people in general.

GarthBrooksXD1 votes

I don't think those are worthy of a perma-ban. I had to be super vulgar and intentionally feed to get my account with all champs and every teemo, annie, and morgana skin unlocked banned. Feels like shit to be banned bro. Takes forever to get new rune pages and all the runes you need to give yourself a good setup for all your matchups. It's so frustrating. I had finally gotten out of silver on that account too :(

Leo10241 votes

maybe rude at points but DEFINETLY NOT ban worthy, i would submit a support ticket because this is bs imo

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

I looked at the support but couldn't find the right question on there to reach a Riot employee. :(

Leo10241 votes

try to do it under need help recovering my account

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

I will go ahead and give that a shot. Thank you very much for your help. Greatly appreciated.

I will also try my best to not be rude and will look to improve my attitude towards my teammates and everyone involved in future games.

Leo10241 votes

yeah, i got a 10 game chat restriction and i'm so scared to lose my account because i love league and i know i'm gonna spend lots of money, well good luck man, hope you get your account back

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Yeah I really love this game and have spent quite a bit on it. Just don't do anything I did and try to do what others here are saying. Should help out plenty. Best of luck with the game and thank you very much for the wishes.

Dank Jerry1 votes

YOO LOL what are you doing stop, You ARE NOT GETTING your account back whatsoever.

You guys are being savage, giving this guy false hope like that smh.

No riot person gonna care about this one specifc case No miracle gonna happen

Its gone. Dont be in denial, you being polite to everyones replies isnt worth anything

Youre donefor bro> sorry you needed to read that.

RIP bro

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

This wasn't about getting my account back. If other's feel I had the chance to and want to be hopeful for me you should let them instead of laughing at them. I appreciate any feedback as to what I can do to become a better teammate in this very intense game. I mean nothing bad in what I say and not trying to play some humble card. I am really trying to get advice here. Thank you in advance for anything you can tell me that would help me improve. Have a great day

Dank Jerry1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTFUkQrJQWc

a tribute to you ^

try soo hard, but got soo far, in the end. Still perma banned

lmao someone just sent me that, but it fits

also for an actual tip

say what you need to in 7 lines or less without using toxic words. The fact your chat log looks that long I dont have to read it. Even Riots wouldnt need to. Even if you think you dint say anything toxic, thats not the case.

key is simple. Dont make long ass chat logs. 7 lines or less. after that STFU or Mute everyone else.

if any noob comments saying " humans are social creatures" or tells you communication is key ( in a toxic game ) , tell them to suck a Heimerdinger

its soo simple longer the chat logs easier the ban.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Yeah I should type less and be more positive in what I should tell my other teammates. Sometimes in a close intense game that others are being toxic I shouldn't make myself like them and should just look to better myself in the said game and mute the others that are bashing or tilting. Thank you for the tips I really appreciate it.

ModUlanopo1 votes

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I looked at the support but couldn't find the right question on there to reach a Riot employee. :(

A support ticket isn't likely to help here as behavioral issues aren't something that can really be appealed.

The best advice I can give you going forward is that, unless someone is actually paying you to be their coach, don't act like one. As has been mentioned, people hate being micromanaged and those reports do add up.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

I'll definitely stop trying to coach even if I give some bad tips. I'll work on just giving suggestions in a nice manner and look out for what I say ahead of time. Thank you for the advice.

My Sea Cow1 votes

Definitely not worthy of a permaban unless what you did leading up to those 2 games (meaning what you did to get the chat bans, the 2 week ban etc was worse) was extremely terrible. But what SpiritofFizz said, I just keep my mouth shut and try not to complain or say anything even if someone does something stupid or dumb. It's not worth someone taking offense to it and getting a ban or reported.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Yeah I'll really have to take that advice. Just sucks I feel I will have a harder time winning games without communication even if people are bashing each other or myself.

edit. As far as 2 week ban I got that in August and I will say I believe that was deserved before. I had believed I changed for the better. As I see this perma I can now see that I may have been wrong.

My Sea Cow1 votes

doesn't mean you can't communicate...just communicate game related things.... Ezreal Fleashed....No TP Top Lane...such like that

I could be wrong but I think after you get the 2 week ban, any type of report that would resort in any type of ban (chat ban or whatever) would be a perma if given after like 3 months after a 2 week ban. Or something like that.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Yeah I'll definitely do that. I was given a 2 week ban I believe on the 7th of August and was working on improving my attitude as I played on. I kinda feel I had improved and was doing better than before. As I see here I completely failed myself and others by being negative and was not helpful in helping my team succeed. Hopefully in the near future I can be a better player and friend to others on this game. Thank you very much for your advice and best of luck on games and everyday life.

My Sea Cow1 votes

Thank you for trying to learn from your mistakes and be better! I hope that maybe someone from Riot sees this and can see that you're truly trying and can reconsider the Permaban.

Hyper Carry Leal2 votes

I should be thanking everyone for the great advice. I really appreciate the advice I have been receiving and I know I will use this to become better as a person overall. If they do that would be awesome as I know this would never happen again. I know the whole it's happened before so it's likely to happen again can come up, but I know that I can do it and will succeed at being better improved on my attitude towards others.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

The chat themselves were mild. Rude a few times, but to escalate to a permaban is impossible.

Most likely what happened is you had received prior punishments before for rude behavior. Chat bans and then a 14 suspension before reaching this point.

When you're teetering on a permaban being your next punishment, you have to be careful with what you say since you're already in bad standings on your account for negative behavior. A lot of what you said was negative, regardless of what your team was saying to you, so that's why you got permabanned despite the logs given to you not being that severe.

Remember, those two game logs do not determine the entirety of your ban. It is your overall behavior in multiple games, since the start of your first punishment, that determines how quickly you'll get banned. The system just pulls the last two chat logs of the games you were successfully reported on, but there is alot more that factors into that decision.

To be a better teammate, I suggest keeping chat to a minimum. Not that chat use is bad, but if you're prone to getting upset over chat, it's best to avoid it. Keep the talking to game related topics such as "Let's do dragon" or "We should ward". You don't need to go on essay length tirades on what your team should be doing. Just keep it simple and clean and you'll do fine in the future :)

I hope that helps!

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Thank you very much for your reply to this. I really appreciate the feedback and you're right. I should look to be a better teammate and keep my chat to minimum. I honestly believed i had improved over the last ban that I do feel was deserved. I won't sit here and say I didn't have any other bad games i'm sure I did. I will do my best to be a better teammate in the future. I just thought I had improved over this time, but I see that I am clearly wrong. Thank you again for this.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

No problem :) Don't beat yourself up too much over this. You've accepted responsibility for your actions which is the first step to improving!

Another tip I see that works is to take breaks between matches and to not continue playing when upset or tilted. Emotions can run high in this game, so it's best to not do something you'll regret because you're upset while playing.

I believe in you to make a great comeback if you decide to make a new account and continue playing! And if you ever need more advice I'm more than happy to help :)

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Yeah breaks is something I should take from time to time as seen on my games played per day. The game is just so intense sometimes with close matches that I do believe I get heated up in excitement and other feelings as well. I will more than likely make a new acct as I believe there is now way i'm getting this acct back. I will use my leveling as a chance to learn from my mistakes and past actions as far as my attitude. I will do my best to be a greatly improved teammate in the future.

Desolas Arterius1 votes

No worries :) I myself can get swept up in excitement during close games, so I know exactly what you mean. But I definitely have to take breaks :P Might be because I'm getting old, but playing more than 4-5 games in a row makes me extremely tired haha.

But I sincerely wish you luck on your new account! I know the grind will be boring, but it might be relaxing to start fresh again!

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Yeah the games can be intense it's crazy. Although i'm not that good at the game lol. I will practice as much as I can without draining myself and letting games get to me. I will focus on myself and all that I can to improve my gameplay and attitude towards my other peers. Thank you for the wishes. I hope you have some of the best games in the future and can climb as high as you desire. :)

Paradise Proxy1 votes

if you already managed to get a 14 day ban (which we dont have the logs from, you were probably MUCH more toxic before you got that), there isn't much else you're allowed to fuck up before you get perma'd. you need to walk the straight and narrow 100%, none of this passive-aggressive XD IM PERFECT shit

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

I am in no way perfect and I know I'll never be perfect at this game. I do know that even the slightest going off the edge could end up in a perma. I am just looking at what I can do to improve other than maybe not ever type as I do love communication in games. Thank you for your feedback.

Dealth1 votes

To be honest there is probably a 99% you won't reform, and continue being toxic again. I'm not saying that as a way to put you down or belittle you. Most smokers try to "quit" many times per year but fail. Most people who are in an abusive relationship tend to take that person back multiple times.

If you ask my advice, the best way to reform would be to stop playing League so much and take up other hobbies. If you are doing other things (e.g snowboarding) then League will stop mattering and you won't care so much when an opponent performs poorly. I'm not saying you need to entirely quit, but at least find something else to do. Otherwise you will continue being toxic.

Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

Challenge accepted!!! I will be that 1%. =D

Az Lusheni Az1 votes

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Hyper Carry Leal1 votes

I will definitely type less and try to improve on myself. Thank you very much.

SirCrazzyŒ1 votes

Even though your attitude was poor in those two games, I'm amazed you were bold to say it was your fault and accepted it. Cheers man, we need more people like you :) [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Hryna1 votes

My suggestion is don't take the lone soldier wind blow me water run me out again position; it's condescending to the people you're matched with and you may not do anything actively toxic but it's annoying for everyone involved.

Leon Etoile1 votes

Being negative (or in your case passive aggressive) doesn't help you win.

If you feel like you are getting pissed; take a break or play something else. Just vent elsewhere; For example, go beat your wife and yell at your kids to show Riot or an actual constructive method (drawing, reading, painting, play doh and etc.)

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