Surrender Voting

A Tranquil Night··3 votes·613 views

Let me start off with saying that I'm not great at this game. That being said, there are times when I'm losing terribly, and everyone else is doing fairly well, or are even in lanes. I would never type anything that may tilt another player, but of course that won't stop them from the usual rants and insults.

Now, the problem I'm having is when worse comes to worst and the whole team is behind by a huge lead. You pop a surrender vote, and people either don't vote, or say no. That's cool and all if we're sitting at 20-30 minutes with some hope of winning. But in this scenario where your team just has a really bad comp, is dying more often than not, and still has no objectives by 30-40 minutes, makes the surrender vote fail frustrating. That can also frustrate players who think they can carry a game as an AP Evelyn, who cannot even duel the enemy's Thresh support.

The only thing that could possibly annoy me while playing league is wasting time because our team won't surrender, and the other team won't end because it won't be fun for them. When these games occur, a majority of the time for me it's 3/2 votes, or 3/1 with the last player not voting. I try to be as positive as possible when suggesting a surrender vote, usually saying that it would probably be better for us to start another match instead of continuing our clearly lost game. Now when the vote fails, I'm left with two options. Getting reported for AFK, or getting reported for negative attitude. But who wouldn't start feeling a little negative when a game is being driven 40-50+ minutes, when I could have started a fresh game within that time? To avoid the afk penalty forces you to play, and that might not even prevent the negative attitude reports... like what do? The ones usually voting no are likely doing it out of spite of you/another player anyways, and that would give them the right to report you for leaving if you do...

9 Comments

Michael7022 votes

You have to wait until they score an ace before you start the surrender vote. Also, the first vote usually fails. I think Riot should lower the FF time from 20m to 15m or something now that the game is more snowbally.

A Tranquil Night2 votes

Even then, it's not enough to discourage them from continuing on. :\ But yeah, I also agree on the surrender time being changed.

AraMoOse2 votes

The purpose of a vote is to gather the opinions of all your team, not just yours. You are within your rights to vote surrender if you wish, but your teammates are also within their rights to vote to continue.

If you want to make sure I DON'T surrender, keep telling me I have to vote to surrender.

A Tranquil Night1 votes

It's not like I'm forcing people to surrender and just throwing a tantrum. It's just those games where you know you CAN'T win, but people would rather drag it out for 50-60+ mins because you or someone else had a bad game, and the ones not voting yes aren't doing too well themselves. Like I said, if I saw a slight chance, I would still try for the win, but these are the extreme cases where everyone in your team's kda is probably 2/6/1 if they even have any kills/objectives in the first place.

EDIT: And then you have those people who, like you said, don't surrender because you're being asked to kindly surrender. Voting no just to scorn you.

Horrlble Aim1 votes

a lot of players like to punish their teammates for losing/playing badly by making the loss take as long as possible. it is extremely toxic behavior.

Dragfin1 votes

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a lot of players like to punish their teammates for losing/playing badly by making the loss take as long as possible. it is extremely toxic behavior.

So is doing the same stupid shit over and over and over and over, never learning nothing and wasting peoples time, then to top it off, use surrender as a crutch to go do the same stupid shit over again with new people.

A Tranquil Night2 votes

In this situation, it's as Horrible Aim said. Dying a lot doesn't mean you're doing stupid shit repeatedly, it could just be a matter of being outmatched? Sometimes you'll get a game where a decently good player who can walk all over you and your team, and even when you can isolate them, they'll still be able to go down with 3 kills under their belt. If the other team is just as strong as that one person, what would happen if you hoped for a team fight to go your way, but your comp's kit just wasn't meant for team fighting? Sure maybe they can hold off while one of you split push, but anyone on their team could easily stop you and just pressure the losing lane even more.

Maximum Morde1 votes

If they refuse to surrender just do what I do. Stop grouping ever and split push 100%. You'll either win or lose faster than you otherwise would have. It speeds the game up and it's perfectly legit strategy.

A Tranquil Night2 votes

Not always. That's usually what I'd end up doing, and seeing if I can make some kind of progress. If the enemy team won't end it, I'll just shove a lane till they send someone for me. Then your team pings you to fall back as if it made any kind of difference, and you get another report for not communicating with the team.

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