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So Apparently I Scripted When I have Never Cheated or Shared my Account.

Ektura··4 votes·1,022 views

Alright, so I'll start off from roughly a week ago.

> On February 23rd I had played a couple games into the evening and then logged out for the night, something that I usually do when I don't have any shifts or assignments to finish. The next day I try to log into my account and It says I am permanently banned. I have been digging around on the web and taking to Waka V.V. and Shaky, both of whom have been helpful in helping me understand how I was banned, however I cannot prove that I have never used Scripts/Hacks/Exploits and as far as the system is concerned, I did use some kind of service to give me an in-game advantage.

I have never cheated in League of Legends and I never plan to. I realize that I seem like the typical butt-hurt player that got banned in the wave last week, but Riot can't expect their system to be 100% accurate with no errors. I have read the terms of service, I have read the summoners code, and I have searched through posts and information for hours in the past week.

I understand that Waka V.V. and Shaky did their job and did not unban me, and if a Rioter does see this, which I really hope they do, the request number is 20617715.

If a Rioter could please just help me out, I have never exploited the game in any way shape or form, and if I did it wouldn't have taken me 579 games to get from Bronze V to Gold V. Considering this season I have gone from S3 to S2 to S4, it kind of shows that I'm not cheating in ranked which is the only place cheating really makes sense, plus in Normal games I am usually matched in mid silver to low bronze elo. I have never been punished before in anyway and have only gotten one warning which was back in October of 2014 where I got a level 1 Leaver warning.

I spent hundreds of dollars on that account and see it as extremely bad customer service (in general, not pointing fingers at those who helped me) that you drive players away when one bad thing happens to their account and it is impossible to even negotiate because you don't believe me when I say that I did nothing wrong. I realize that cheating is zero-tolerance, however when someone is obviously dedicated to this game, (1831 hours of playtime) the least you can do is believe them when they have had no prior punishments, and are rarely salty in there games.

Really hope that @WookieeCookie or someone else that can help me see's this, if anyone else has been through the same situation feedback is appreciated :)

Thanks, Ektura

21 Comments

Awkward Couch6 votes

I took a look at your match history, it looks like back in October 24-31, you seem to switch your summoner spells around quite a bit. It looks like before then, you have had your flash on F I believe, then around the 24th, you switch it between D and F, then after October 31, you have your flash on F again religiously.

Now, that isn't definitive proof, but that does look suspicious to me. Then again I'm not a Rioter, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

MegaManYYZ2 votes

from pretty much a mid/jungler main switching summoners to be a god like ADC only to switch back to being a jungler... yeah pretty fishy.

LostFr0st1 votes

The cs discrepancy between then and the other adc games before that is also a red flag.
CS certainly wouldn't be affected by the OP's summoner spell explanation.

Ektura1 votes

{quoted}

I never said it was my worst role, I said it was my least played, I just dislike playing ADC because it's boring to me. I'm not going to play something that I hate just to climb and get a border, also I mentioned the only ADC I am good at is Jinx because I like how she is easy to cs on, she scales incredibly well and she is relatively easy to position with in teamfights.

I just find her, lucian and ezreal easier to farm on because they have abilities or passives (Jinx aoe, lucian passive and Q, Ezreal Q) that make it easier for me to farm incase I almost kill one or two are going to die at the same time. Also, Jinx one shots waves late game which is why I do so well on her, wave clear and 3-6 cs with one auto.

LostFr0st1 votes

I'm comparing the exact same champ to the exact same champ.
The difference is just too great within too small of time-frame...

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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I took a look at your match history, it looks like back in October 24-31, you seem to switch your summoner spells around quite a bit. It looks like before then, you have had your flash on F I believe, then around the 24th, you switch it between D and F, then after October 31, you have your flash on F again religiously.

Now, that isn't definitive proof, but that does look suspicious to me. Then again I'm not a Rioter, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

love the logic.

"hey man, you have F on your flash and that one game you had flash on D" :))))) I switch it up all the time . does this mean i am scripting? I like going flash on F when i jungle and flash on D when i play top:)..sometimes i switch it for w/e reason:)

solid logic

Awkward Couch1 votes

Again, if you read my post, I did not say it was definitive proof. Most players don't switch up their summoner spells. And what you are doing is describing consistent switching, this appears to be random. It does seem suspicious when a player switches up spells for the same champ one game after on the same champ in the same role. It's not just the switching of the spells, though that's a good indicator of where to start looking.

Raj Te Lag Comp1 votes

Sometimes I don't take flash (i.e. Shaco jg) and then accidentally forget to switch them for several games. Then I just get used to it, but usually switch back the next day.

Awkward Couch1 votes

And that's going to happen sometimes, and I understand that. What I'm talking about is when people suddenly switch their summoner spells, and all of a sudden start winning a lot of games, and then once they reach a certain rank (Gold, Plat, Diamond, what have you) they switch the summoner spells back and start losing frequently.

Like I said, it's not definitive proof, but it's a good place to start looking.

Raj Te Lag Comp1 votes

I know what you were saying I don't know why I even commented that >.<

WngNut1 votes

I have to agree with the others for now, if you don't mind trying to convince me, why did you suddenly decide to switch summons and roles?

Ektura1 votes

I explained this in the ticket that I made with Riot, forgot to explain it here so I'll just copy paste what I said there:

"The only time that it may have looked like I was sharing is when me and a friend of mine who also plays League made a bet to motivate us to climb to gold by the end of season. We made 2 or 3 bets, all of which I lost in September and/or October where the loser of the bet had to put flash on the D key until the loser reached the winners division. (we were both the same division at the time of making these bets)."

The bets overlapped and only the first bet I had to play my least played role so far (ADC) and after that we made it just switching summoners. Also, I hate ADC, I'm good at Jinx because she's a kite, poke, aoe, lategame teamfight God (which is good in lower elo). Anyone other than her and lucian (who I just picked up a month ago) I suck at.

I agree though, if I were a rioter it would seem very fishy, however this is not even what triggered the alarm because in late October there was a banwave that hit all the people boosting at end of season. I really do regret making that bet now that this happened (bet was who could eat the most suicide wings in one go) but it seemed like a good way to motivate us and make us overall better players by making us more competitive and better at the roles we hate.

MegaManYYZ1 votes

you're a mid/jg main and claim your adc is worst role however you aren't very good at mid/jg but you are amazing at adc... how is adc your worst role????

rioters also don't look at match history as the sole way to catch cheaters. they have other means to do so on their back-end in which they caught you. the alarms that were trigger were not caused by this.

Ektura1 votes

{quoted}

you're a mid/jg main and claim your adc is worst role however you aren't very good at mid/jg but you are amazing at adc... how is adc your worst role????

rioters also don't look at match history as the sole way to catch cheaters. they have other means to do so on their back-end in which they caught you. the alarms that were trigger were not caused by this.

I never said it was my worst role, I said it was my least played, I just dislike playing ADC because it's boring to me. I'm not going to play something that I hate just to climb and get a border, also I mentioned the only ADC I am good at is Jinx because I like how she is easy to cs on, she scales incredibly well and she is relatively easy to position with in teamfights.

MegaManYYZ1 votes

right... that's why your CS scores are so different when you're summoners have changed...

item builds AND runes were different too.

your Malphite game too is an anomaly. you always build your Malph AP and have terrible CS. when you were full tank during the same time frame, you out CS'd in a much shorter game.

Ektura1 votes

I rarely go full AP unless I am fooling around in norms with friends, I will usually get one AP Bruiser item and the rest tanky with another Zhonyas or Abyssal late game if my team is already really tanky and the enemy isn't

LostFr0st1 votes

We can't see your unranked games in match history actually... (since we're not on you're friends list) MegaManYYZ is looking purely at your ranked games.

Ektura1 votes

Totally forgot about that, my bad. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

MegaManYYZ2 votes

your core malphite items is zhonyas except for the game in question.

you typically rush zhonya's on all your other builds and use the weird MS% Armor AS% runes.

but in the time frame of question you run standard AP runes, something you've never done. and didn't even bother buying an AP item besides item 3025 and went full tank. you also bought a lot of mana pots, something you have never usually do. you tell me that's the same person playing that game.

Ektura1 votes

As LostFrost mentioned below, you can only see my Ranked games, also I switched around my rune pages and decided to try something new because all my previous Malphite games were shit and it worked. Free AP early for the level 6 all in and then build full tank for the late game because their entire team scaled except for the LeBlanc.

Awkward Couch4 votes

"The only time that it may have looked like I was sharing is when me and a friend of mine who also plays League made a bet to motivate us to climb to gold by the end of season. We made 2 or 3 bets, all of which I lost in September and/or October where the loser of the bet had to put flash on the D key until the loser reached the winners division. (we were both the same division at the time of making these bets)."

Again, this is what I can see, and it is by no means definitive proof. And to be honest, that's the only suspicious thing that I could find.

I agree though, if I were a rioter it would seem very fishy, however this is not even what triggered the alarm because in late October there was a banwave that hit all the people boosting at end of season.

I kind of figured that, I just wanted to mention what I found.

I agree though, if I were a rioter it would seem very fishy, however this is not even what triggered the alarm because in late October there was a banwave that hit all the people boosting at end of season.

That just sounds like a terrible idea. Mostly because I don't like super spicy foods.

but it seemed like a good way to motivate us and make us overall better players by making us more competitive and better at the roles we hate.

I think that's fine. Personally, I don't think the switching of the sums keys is what got you banned, and I think what you and your friends did was just fine.

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