Honor 0 Wondering what i have to do to get out

Erola··1 votes·740 views

So once i got banned i didn't really try to be reformed but now have a different outlook and i am trying to reformed. I'm not toxic now i try to untilt and mute when it's needed. My friend also got banned when my account got unbanned and it took him about 3 weeks or less to get to honor 1 and i don't understand how he did it neither does he.

P.S Sorry for bad grammer

Thanks in advanced

17 Comments

Magical Player1 votes

1st congrats to your friend for getting unbanned and second honor 0 from punishment takes awhile and alot of games there is no set time, just keep playing and eventually it'll go back up someone said 3 months of "regular"play was needed per honor level So it could be awhile

Emenarth1 votes

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Kartagia1 votes

You are playing support well, thus you cannot get out, as enemies you shamed by killing them reports you and reduce your honor.

Kartagia1 votes

This is flaw in honor system as every report drops your honor way more than being honored gains. Riot makes false assumption that people are benevolent and does not use reporting as punishment tool? I suggest RIot starts to check which kind of people are honored - most likely good K/D - and how supports are treated. Quite badly I bet.

Silent Gravity1 votes

Only valid reports reduce your honor progress.

Honors are spread very equally to every role.

Kartagia2 votes

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Only valid reports reduce your honor progress.

Honors are spread very equally to every role.

But RIot games have blurted it out there is no such thing as invalid report. Especially when you play off-meta support as trolling report is always valid as Riot does not give a shit to do investigation,

Emenarth2 votes

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Kartagia1 votes

I totally agree with you, but those who abuse the system does shout here that system works, and that RIot says it does, it does work. They never play support, thus they do not need to worry. And for some reason leak Riot did that community opinion is basis of reporting is apparently true, as it seems only supports are punishable for off-meta. It seems that off-meta and trolling only applies to supports who does not do as they are told, as community has strong belief supports are not equal members of team.

Kei1431 votes

Off-meta isn't punishable, chances are you said something that lead to your punishment.

Kei1431 votes

Reports only flag the system to check for toxicity, no toxicity = invalid report.

Kei1431 votes
  1. Don't get validly reported (valid reports slow down your honors progress)
  2. Get honors (by either through carrying, or actual good behavior)
  3. Honor others as well (get that full team honor bonus)
  4. Play lots of games
  5. ???
  6. Profit
Kartagia1 votes

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  1. Don't get validly reported (valid reports slow down your honors progress)

Drop the word validly as automated system has no such thing as invalid report.

  1. Get honors (by either through carrying, or actual good behavior)

And if you play support, community focusing on score subset of kills and deaths, you cannot get honors that often. Thus your advice is: do not play jungle or support.

  1. Honor others as well (get that full team honor bonus)

And this mean you ignore definition of honors for competition reasons. This I have seen. Dishonorable get honored, as competitive players think they gain more by honoring regardless behavior.

  1. Play lots of games

This does not work. I play lots and get thrown down. Flaming starts at champ selection.

Kei1431 votes

Maybe there is a reason why you are in dishonorable status and I'm at honor 5 despite me being a support main.

Kartagia1 votes

Interesting part Riot is totally ignoring: I got to honor 1 after dropped to honor 0, but for some reason I got demoted back to honor 0 without being punished. Thus I am living proof that every single report reduce your honor. The whole competitive honor system is created by someone who hates it supports got honorable opponents when they did not do as they were told. They do not want you to see honor metrics as it would show that "slight gain of honor" is totally insignificant compared to honor lost by reports. And more importantly, for RIot bullies, hiding punishment system seems to be totally important. Thus lack of honor metrics is to hide effectiveness of reporting system and the fact there is no false report. If you would see your honor bar drop when you had players who attacked you verbally, you would understand there is no false report. And the fact is you can always report your enemies as vengeance after you lost game. There is no honorable opponent but dishonorable enemies in "winning" taker part of community who thinks supporting is insult to their status.

I have start to feel that the system change was made to ensure best score carry gets honors, as community seems to want. The fact old honor system worked like it should work, was just pain in the ass of community. God damn system gave supports honors when they did play well, but did not do as they were told. New system works just like community wants - it gives most honor to best carry in the team regardless how flaming or dishonorable he was! The system is actually MVP in disguise of honor system. And that is really bad design. In the other thread talking of the honorable opponent got it quite straight we have people who cannot grasp honor. For them pvp game means your opponents are enemies, and you cannot show any respect to them but insult and hate them as ends justifies means.

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