perma ban appeal

Jorbee·Nov 17, 2017·2 votes·813 views

I have spent a lot of money in this game, and ive only been banned once almost a year ago, and now i get banned permanently for playing with my friends. Is there any way this can be a one month ban instead of permanent. I've invested so much time money and effort.

I know I've said some bad things but today was a very stressful day for me and theres no complaining.

I know there's a 4 step banning phase, but the last time i was banned was almost a year ago, ive invested about 300$plus into this game, and it would be a shame if it were thrown away in one night, is there possibly any other punishment then perma. Chat restrict me 1 year if must. I generally don't mean these things, I just say it out loud in moments of heat.

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ZombiemasterNov 17, 20173 votes

To appeal a punishment, you will need to submit a support ticket. If it's true that your last punishment was almost a year ago, it's possible that Player Support will lower your punishment to a 14-day ban. However, if they don't reduce your punishment, then that's it.

EDIT: Looking at op.gg, it seems as though you only recently started playing again 5 days ago, though I don't know how long op.gg's database goes back. It's possible to lower your punishment tier, but to do so you need to be actively playing since your last punishment. If you don't play enough games since your last punishment, then your punishment tier won't be lowered.

MadMad SicknessNov 17, 20171 votes

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To appeal a punishment, you will need to submit a support ticket. If it's true that your last punishment was almost a year ago, it's possible that Player Support will lower your punishment to a 14-day ban. However, if they don't reduce your punishment, then that's it.

EDIT: Looking at op.gg, it seems as though you only recently started playing again 5 days ago. It's possible to lower your punishment tier, but to do so you need to be actively playing since your last punishment. If you get a 14 day ban then stop playing for a year, when you come back your next punishment will still be the next one up, which in this case would be a permanent ban.

Ya, the system also takes "games played" into consideration. If you couldn't make it past a certain number of games without toxicity then that would have been enough to escalate you up the ladder to your final perma.

It's likely riot won't be able to revert your ban as you were already aware of your first ban but decided to ignore it and/or tried to get around it by leaving and then coming back to the account.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

that was not my intention, i needed a break from league, as i got a new pc, so i started playing SP games like witcher etc. After those were done i moved back into league. as soon as i try to get back into this game, i get banned while playing with friends.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

i did a support ticket explain more of my situation i was in.

I said "n" word with er, and i said "kys" and "trash"? if thats a bad word. I know racial slurs are heavly punished, but sometimes, life happens and u just let it out. everyone just needs a reminder everyonce in a while. If i get unbanned into a 14 day, my pledge is to /muteall every match, and just listen to pings.

MadMad SicknessNov 17, 20172 votes

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i did a support ticket explain more of my situation i was in.

I said "n" word with er, and i said "kys" and "trash"? if thats a bad word. I know racial slurs are heavly punished, but sometimes, life happens and u just let it out. everyone just needs a reminder everyonce in a while. If i get unbanned into a 14 day, my pledge is to /muteall every match, and just listen to pings.

Ya, there's no excuse for that language. If I go out and hit someone with a car "because life happens" that would not hold up at all in court.

Encouraging suicide is not ok, and neither is hate speech and harassment.

You literly hit the trifecta of toxicity with your last game. I'm sorry to say that Riot support will likely not do anything about your account. Less then 1% of bans get reverted or lessened.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

1 game out of hundreds, would be nice if they would give a warning, like how leaver buster does.

MadMad SicknessNov 17, 20172 votes

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1 game out of hundreds, would be nice if they would give a warning, like how leaver buster does.

Your warnings were the 14-day and the chat-restrictions. Those serve as warnings.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if it's 1 game out of hundreds. Just because you never used hate-speech/encouraged suicide in other games doesn't give you a pass for the one game you decide to do it.

It doesn't work that way.

And besides, those are absolutely horrible things to say to someone. A "reminder" to not be a horrible person to someone else shouldn't be needed.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

i explained more of my situation in my support ticket of how i was in a call with friends, and since i have no mic, i need to respond in in game chat with 1 word answers, mostly without context. i only got 1, 14 ban, no previous warnings at all, and that was almost a year ago

NegativityNov 17, 20173 votes

You seem young to me based on how these excuses seem to make sense to you, and how you try to use pity as a tool to appeal this ban. "Heat of the moment" happens to everyone but it's not an excuse "I played with my friends" doesn't matter "I didn't mean what I said" you call people N words and shit yah guess you didn't mean to slander my race/heritage if that's the first thinking coming to your mind you should work out whatever you got inside your head first

Pretty uncool, it doesn't matter if u were on voice or not, doesn't matter who you insulted, and without chat logs this post is pretty useless, I'd suggest you actually show us, otherwise send a support ticket which will likely not result in anything other than riot saying "we aren't reverting course Etc"

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

Jorbee: get the fuck out of my room im playing minecraft Jorbee: get the fuck out of my room im playing minecradft *friends played a meme where a kid yelled the line above, i thought it was funny so i just said it" Jorbee: %%%%%% *line was said when friends called me "%%%%%" i responded with that in chat, without directing it to anyone that i didn't know Jorbee: i told u *i pinged multiple times that my laner was missing, then toplane gets ganked and dies, and i wrote i told you Jorbee: ziggs ult Jorbee: mid mia Jorbee: MID MIA Jorbee: ok Jorbee: ziggs ult Jorbee: ? *information for my team Jorbee: gtfo Jorbee: wait Jorbee: plz Jorbee: plz Jorbee: plz *my jungler was my friend he asked me if i wanted blue i told him yes Jorbee: stop Jorbee: dying Jorbee: to him Jorbee: -40 iq? Jorbee: -100 iq confirmed Jorbee: trash *was said to friends as they kept doing random things Jorbee: woooo Jorbee: useless *again said to friends Jorbee: run Jorbee: plz rumblw *rumble was being chased, i told him to run or he'd die Jorbee: map awareness Jorbee: tsk tsk *i told rumble to have map awareness as he didn't see the enemy coming straight for him Jorbee: lee inting repoirt *said to my jg friend as he kept dying over again, said as a joke as he says that to me a lot of times Jorbee: ult the wave plz *said to rumble as he was last one alive to stall game Jorbee: kys *said to friend for talking smack in the call Jorbee: report rumble int'\

rumble did the worst in our team, so i thought it would be something to type during nexus death animation.

heres my explaination for every text sent. most things were taken out of context by just cherry picking the two that are in riots book of bad workds. Edit: words without italics are explainations

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

"I didn't mean what I said" you call people N words and shit yah guess you didn't mean to slander my race/heritage if that's the first thinking coming to your mind you should work out whatever you got inside your head first biggest youtuber on the world said that, uh oh guess hes a racist now guess we gotta clear his head too

EkitaihNov 17, 20172 votes

We'll go ahead and clear this up.

Regardless of whether it was taken out of context or not, what you posted was explicitly against the TOU presented by Riot. To explain further, this is the exact TOU passage that you broke: Code of Conduct 5.1 v. states "Transmitting or communicating any content which, in the sole and exclusive discretion of Riot games, is deemed offensive, including language that is unlawful, harmful (such as "kys"), threatening, abusive (again, "kys" applies here), harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially (hey, big one here. The "N word" applies here.), ethically, or otherwise objectionable."

Just because you don't feel you did anything wrong doesn't excuse that fact that you actually did do something wrong. The TOU is public and available for all to see.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

i agree but when i log in and the log pulls up, it says a player was offended by language and what not. What im saying is that i wasn't speaking to him/her or targetting her. i was simply typing it without direction to a person which again conflicts with the TOU ""Transmitting or communicating any content which, in the sole and exclusive discretion of Riot games, is deemed offensive, including language that is unlawful, harmful (such as "kys"), threatening, abusive (again, "kys" applies here), harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially (hey, big one here. The "N word" applies here.), ethically, or otherwise objectionable." but im pretty sure most chat bans aren't because of breaking tou, mostly by reports.

TaeseukNov 17, 20172 votes

Please explain to me how the fact that you got a 14 day ban not enough of a warning for you?

General Esdeath Nov 17, 20171 votes

chat logs? Also did you play between that last ban and now? It expires in League time, not real time.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

ive played back in june, july, took break, started playing occasionally, now im trying to get back on it, and boom banned.

General Esdeath Nov 17, 20171 votes

The 14 ban includes a period of "thin ice" and since you didn't play a lot I guess you were still on it.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

i thought i played enough, i believe was banned last year of sept/oct. Took the 14 day break, continued to play through to february. Took a break, came back occationally probably a week every month.

General Esdeath Nov 17, 20171 votes

Not sure then, maybe you were just on the cusp of it or something. I'd send a ticket asking Riot.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

Funny thing is that i said 1 bad thing literally only 1 that was probably taken out of context and it was permabanned for it. 1 word gets me a perma, while other people i see can say what ever they want without consequences. is the banning system by chance now.

General Esdeath Nov 17, 20171 votes

Any toxicity will be a perma after a 14 day ban, not by chance

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

thing is i didn't get it right after, it was many months after

General Esdeath Nov 17, 20172 votes

It doesn't matter because it's a tier, and you were still on the 14-day tier.

TaeseukNov 17, 20171 votes

But you only played for February and then on and off, you need to be playing for more than just a month the after a 14 day ban.

From what I know the recommended time to play is for 1 year to 1.5 years that's probably playing it safe but you didn't even play six months of league.

EkitaihNov 17, 20172 votes

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i thought i played enough, i believe was banned last year of sept/oct. Took the 14 day break, continued to play through to february. Took a break, came back occationally probably a week every month.

Hmm. I don't think you were banned in sept/oct last year. You played every day in those two months. It looks like you played every day (minus just a couple days here or there) all the way through the end of last year and the start of this year. The only 14-day breaks were between April and May or May and June of this year, which is likely when the ban was placed. Since then there have been around 20-30 games or so. I doubt they'll do anything about the ban because to them you hadn't really learned your lesson, and I'm kinda inclined to agree. There really is no excuse for this kind of language.

Also, about the toxicity. I don't know why people feel they need so many warnings. It's not like you go around spouting these phrases off to people you don't know face to face. You know not to say this stuff, so you shouldn't have to be reminded. Just make yourself a new account and try to keep the toxicity out of game.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

Same for why does riot give leaver buster warnings but not warnings for toxicity, almost impossibly ive only played 20-30 games, i have almost 30 ranked wins and about 30 losses. another probably 50 casuals, more then 20 urf games when it was out. and some arams in and out. Equates to almost 100 games, if every game was averaged 30 min, it would be almost 50 hours spent within that time frame.

like i said before , "heat of the moment" things pop out, and mistakes are made, really hard to learn from a mistake that is perma with a massive lost of time and $. What i mean is that, youre are so down from one mistake that you just wanna not live anymore and hide in a closet.

EkitaihNov 17, 20172 votes

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Same for why does riot give leaver buster warnings but not warnings for toxicity, almost impossibly ive only played 20-30 games, i have almost 30 ranked wins and about 30 losses. another probably 50 casuals, more then 20 urf games when it was out. and some arams in and out. Equates to almost 100 games, if every game was averaged 30 min, it would be almost 50 hours spent within that time frame.

like i said before , "heat of the moment" things pop out, and mistakes are made, really hard to learn from a mistake that is perma with a massive lost of time and $. What i mean is that, youre are so down from one mistake that you just wanna not live anymore and hide in a closet.

Leaving game does not equate to verbal abuse. There are plenty of reasons to leave game. No reason to call someone an N word or to promote suicide. Apples to oranges my man.

Just because you are down doesn't give you a right to try and bring others down. You obviously haven't learned your lesson from the first ban.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

wouldnt really consider saying 2 things out of context as verbal abuse, to clarify, it wasn't directed at anyone with "you" or another word. It was simply said by it self for example "Jorbee: kys". to clarify this i was in a call with my friends, and without a mic, the only way to communicate is with chat. My friends make fun of me in a call, and i respond with "kys" to them. They call me an "%%%%%" in voice i reply with "n word' in chat. I never directed it at anyone in the game as i was playing with 2 other friends.

my point is that the 2 things i said were taken out of context. Ive read a post earlier today about a rioter saying in a another forum that saying things randomly like "fuck, shit, trash" with out directing it at someone would not be considered a ban.

KevinSpacey999Nov 17, 20171 votes

Hmm idk if there is anything we can do. Athough we all get frustrated in the heat of the moment, we just need to learn from our mistakes and not make them again. The same thing applies to life. Mistakes are actually a key point in life which makes a person one step further to being a better person. You will learn more from mistakes than doing the right thing which is odd but true.

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

I agree but kind of hard to learn from mistakes without a warning, a popup occasionally to remind and not just like an insta right away. I try to become better by taking breaks from online games, playing single player games, moving into less "toxic?" communities like idk rainbow six. Come back reformed, was hardly ever mad at rainbowsix, i thought i was ready, but sometimes the "heat" gets to you and words come out.

Magical PlayerNov 17, 20171 votes

"life happens and u just let it out. " most bs statement ever

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

ex// you drop your phone it cracks and you swear in class/in public loudly

ex// someone runs down mids, i swear at them

literally the same situation, you blurt out words when something happens

Magical PlayerNov 17, 20172 votes

Literally not the same situation One is just about you the other is you harassing a player In addition cursing isnt a punishment by itself say fuck all you like aim that shit at people and its harassment, then you're an issue

JorbeeNov 17, 20171 votes

Ok to clarify again, i said N-word and kys without DIrecting it at anyone ex// "you're a n-word" "go kys"

i said these words by them selves without any directing at all

To clarify even further, i was in a call with friends without a mic, only way to communicate is via chat, they make fun of my hair in the voice, i type kys in chat. they understand that as we are friends we dont actually mean that

then soon later, they call me a racial slur "%%%%%" i proceed to type "n-word" without directing it at anyone. I can see why riot may think this is apparently toxic, but it wasn't directed at anyone

Magical PlayerNov 17, 20171 votes

Zero tolerance policies you broke them, feel free to debate that with riot support they may buy the story I don't have a say, I can only say that you broke the zero tolerance rule Best of luck in resolving this