Are you guys seriously?

Thaiko·Apr 16, 2017·1 votes·1,473 views

I'm getting perma banned for 3 games where I was toxic due to players who decided to troll/feed/AFK? You can check my stats, compared to the one of team (some of them got over 15 deaths, duh). So basically, you can troll the hell out of players, then report players who said something to you about it and the player you reported will get banned becasue YOU made him tilted? What a sad system.

I didn't play League for over a year, came back played about 40 games and now I got insta perma banned WITHOUT ANY WARNINGS (NO chat restriction, no 1-2 week ban, nothing.) Strange. Especially if you know I play since SEASON 1 and only received about 2-3 chat restrictions over those 6 years.

43 Comments

EvilDustManApr 16, 20173 votes

Post the logs.

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

Do you want me post the logs over all those 4000 games I ever played? They just pick out those 3 games games where you indeed did flame, but all those other positive games are suddenly not relevant anymore.

HethaleanApr 16, 20175 votes

"What? Just rob a SINGLE bank and murder just ONE guy, and your lifetime of good behavior doesn't immunize you!? What a stupid system." lol

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

Yeah, let's compare robbing a bank or murdering someone to a guy who said something back to a bunch of trolls on a computergame.

HethaleanApr 16, 20175 votes

The components are there. You think good behavior Y immunizes you from bad behavior X. There is no such thing in LoL. Just learn to own your own actions and the consequences therein. Just basic life lessons.

ThaikoApr 16, 20172 votes

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The components are there. You think good behavior Y immunizes you from bad behavior X. There is no such thing in LoL. Just learn to own your own actions and the consequences therein. Just basic life lessons.

Yes, but do you know what the systems does IRL? Try to get you back on track. Not to put you forever in prision becasue you did somehting wrong. They give you a second chance to improve yourself.

Coopa123Apr 16, 20173 votes

Homophobic bigots don't get a 2nd chance. Sorry :)

KarunamonApr 16, 20172 votes

Try to get you back on track.

You are more than welcome to make another account. Riot only bans individual people very, very rarely.

Hate speech like calling people sexual slurs will get you restricted and banned the first time it happens. It's not okay. Don't do it.

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

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You are more than welcome to make another account. Riot only bans individual people very, very rarely.

Hate speech like calling people sexual slurs will get you restricted and banned the first time it happens. It's not okay. Don't do it.

I don't think it's that very rarely but ok. Why perma banning people in the first place? Like it works to make people less toxic who can play the next hour by buying another account and can start all over again.

They should start to see the bigger picture and in general than simply perma ban instantly for a bad game.

Prohibition doesn't work and never will work.

KarunamonApr 16, 20172 votes

Actions have consequences. Mistreat your team, lose all your skins and champs.

dYW7w6mjp1Apr 17, 20171 votes

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"What? Just rob a SINGLE bank and murder just ONE guy, and your lifetime of good behavior doesn't immunize you!? What a stupid system." lol

Robbing a bank and murder being compared to a game where 50% of the community is toxic is sure cute.

EvilDustManApr 16, 20172 votes

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Do you want me post the logs over all those 4000 games I ever played? They just pick out those 3 games games where you indeed did flame, but all those other positive games are suddenly not relevant anymore.

If you went from zero punishments to a permaban, yes, it matters.

ThaikoApr 16, 20172 votes

I will put some notes to see at a bigger picture ;) BTW: I NEVER started to intentionally feed (you can check last stats and compare them to my team). I didnt't delete not a single thing in the logs. This is the reason why I get perma banned after more than 4000 positive games. I highly doubt it that you never ever had bad games and started to flame. It happens sadly, but getting perma banned instantly after I really did effort in all those other games makes me sad.

Game 1 Thaiko: dont try to push bot Thaiko: I gank afdter blue Thaiko: littrle bit mùore Thaiko: gj Thaiko: boit Thaiko: drake Thaiko: after u back Thaiko: fuirs trezd Thaiko: brb Thaiko: drake Thaiko: pull ouyt Thaiko: pull oiut Thaiko: luciah take red Thaiko: idd Thaiko: yep Thaiko: mb Thaiko: group Thaiko: or wait next infernal drake Thaiko: play safe Thaiko: we have top gorup <- We had a massive lead, but suddenly they are getting caught one by one. I asked to group and after this moment some of them decided to flame and blame me as jungler for their deaths.

Thaiko: as oine Thaiko: ahw ell Thaiko: u die dagain Thaiko: ok Thaiko: all Thaiko: my bad Thaiko: ok Thaiko: jeop Thaiko: all my fault Thaiko: u Thaiko: %%%uckgin Thaiko: shit Thaiko: bropnz,eie Thaiko: fucks Thaiko: die Thaiko: WHOEL Thaiko: THE FUCKEING TIME Thaiko: U %%%gots Thaiko: wanna trhow Thaiko: ,np Thaiko: says who Thaiko: %%%got Thaiko: U JUST Thaiko: DONT Thaiko: HAVE Thaiko: TO Thaiko: DIE Thaiko: IS Thaiko: THAT Thaiko: SO AHRD Thaiko: Jep Thaiko: that will be it Thaiko: XD Thaiko: xd Thaiko: what a pure shit team Thaiko: fuc,gin shit lata Thaiko: fguckghin shti lucian Thaiko: fuckgin shit feeder rumble

Game 2 Thaiko: That sucks Thaiko: they are gone Thaiko: no f mid Thaiko: drake asap plz Thaiko: lol Thaiko: lel lb 1 hp :p Thaiko: how did that cait survive Thaiko: for real Thaiko: go get a lottery ticket as a team Thaiko: get drake Thaiko: shaco Thaiko: offfff Thaiko: useless jhungler Thaiko: gezt top Thaiko: better take blue form the onluy userfull dude in the team but opk Thaiko: PLZ Thaiko: DIE Thaiko: DIE Thaiko: U FUCKLGIN BUNCH OF SHIT LUICKLERS Thaiko: Do infernalm Thaiko: get infernal plz <- We just won a teamfight after we were losing the game in general. 3 guys of us still alive and 2 of the enemy team. Team decided to chase those 2 enemy players back to their inhib (while we didn't had a single turret) and eventually died all 3 to them and so we also lost that important infernal drake which would give us back the opportunity to win the game.

Thaiko: holy shit Thaiko: silvers in actian Thaiko: wauw Thaiko: infernka$µ Thaiko: gone Thaiko: wauiw Thaiko: U Thaiko: FUCKGIN Thaiko: MORRON S Thaiko: I TODL Thaiko: YOUY Thaiko: FUCXKGIU Thaiko: I OTLMD Thaiko: U Thaiko: FUCKIGN Thaiko: TEBNS Thaiko: TIMES Thaiko: DO Thaiko: DRAKLE Thaiko: PING Thaiko: PING Thaiko: PING Thaiko: PIN BG Thaiko: STIL Thaiko: U Thaiko: FUCKIGN Thaiko: DECDIEDE Thaiko: TO GO GET A FUCKGIJN Thaiko: KILL Thaiko: Hoily fucgikjn Thaiko: shjot Thaiko: and u %%%gopts Thaiko: got Thaiko: fuckgin Thaiko: palt Thaiko: stfu Thaiko: u Thaiko: ufkcign Thaiko: diclrhejad Thaiko: wioth no fuckign brain Thaiko: hholym fuckgi shit Thaiko: evenr wors than fuckgion brozne Thaiko: kill for fuckgijn infernal drake Thaiko: goo Thaiko: du!fkcigj jopb Thaiko: dicklehad Thaiko: i tilt for this bronze %%%%s who go for a kill instead of secodn infernal. Thaiko: xd Thaiko: she is getting massive protectuioin Thaiko: ow Thaiko: now u care? :D Thaiko: Stfu Thaiko: dickhead Thaiko: u went for a kiull Thaiko: instead for second inferl Thaiko: gay fuck Thaiko: get what u deserve Thaiko: a Thaiko: los Thaiko: fuckign Thaiko: shitfuckl Thaiko: SGTFU Thaiko: U Thaiko: FUCKIGN Thaiko: MRON Thaiko: Better balme other people Thaiko: for u mazainbg Thaiko: stupdi Thaiko: shit Thaiko: chase Thaiko: instead of second infernal Thaiko: i killed her Thaiko: gg Thaiko: report this fockgin morons Thaiko: kill > 2nd infernal drake, wtf is this? Bronze? Thaiko: we deserve to lose Thaiko: now u care? Thaiko: Best calkl euw Thaiko: omfg Thaiko: best call euw Thaiko: just like those 2 kills instead of infernal drake Thaiko: get what u desevre Thaiko: bronzie foks

Game 3 Thaiko: we too Thaiko: go Thaiko: :D Thaiko: How scared were u kha? Thaiko: FFS Thaiko: ALWAYS Thaiko: THIS SHIT MLLEE Thaiko: OLN FUCKGION Thaiko: FB Thaiko: what a shit orianna u are xd <- I was irritated due to my super high ping wich she obviously could see and tried to take advantage of it.

Thaiko: umh Thaiko: wrtf? Thaiko: WTF Thaiko: KHA? Thaiko: nice kill a DC Thaiko: proofs aghain how bad u are :p Thaiko: better gank mid Thaiko: she puhs 24/7 Thaiko: common kha Thaiko: pppffffffff Thaiko: clap clap first needed 1564456 ganks of lee xd Thaiko: and a kill from a dc Thaiko: ur mechanics stay super bad :) Thaiko: kha Thaiko: plz Thaiko: unsitaal Thaiko: ur puire shit Thaiko: imd one Thaiko: fuck it Thaiko: iuseless shitr Thaiko: jungler Thaiko: ffs Thaiko: lee Thaiko: 4654564 times mid Thaiko: ebven Thaiko: whgen she fuckgin Thaiko: pushed Thaiko: whoelm the fucklgin time Thaiko: its over Thaiko: ok Thaiko: its voer Thaiko: this lee <3 Thaiko: xd Thaiko: who cares? Thaiko: kha afk Thaiko: true that blitz :D Thaiko: I dont get how ori could push 24/7 withoutr being ganked a single time :p Insead SHE kept getting ganks from lee under my turret :p Amazing Thaiko: nah believe ori, ur rlly rlly bad :p Thaiko: failed all ur spells every singfle tilme Thaiko: omg i was dc Thaiko: plz Thaiko: i was dc Thaiko: another dc for u kill Thaiko: izi :D Thaiko: np btich, u wont get far with those fail ori skillz xd

BeatzBoyFTWApr 16, 20177 votes

First, you seriously need to focus more on playing the game instead of spamming the chatbox. Second, these logs here?

Thaiko: %%%uckgin Thaiko: shit Thaiko: bropnz,eie Thaiko: fucks Thaiko: die Thaiko: WHOEL Thaiko: THE FUCKEING TIME Thaiko: U %%%gots Thaiko: says who Thaiko: %%%got Thaiko: fuc,gin shit lata Thaiko: fguckghin shti lucian Thaiko: fuckgin shit feeder rumble Thaiko: PLZ Thaiko: DIE Thaiko: DIE Thaiko: U FUCKLGIN BUNCH OF SHIT LUICKLERS Thaiko: U Thaiko: FUCKGIN Thaiko: MORRON S Thaiko: and u %%%gopts Thaiko: wioth no fuckign brain Thaiko: hholym fuckgi shit Thaiko: evenr wors than fuckgion brozne Thaiko: kill for fuckgijn infernal drake Thaiko: dicklehad Thaiko: i tilt for this bronze %%%%s who go for a kill instead of secodn infernal. Thaiko: gay fuck Thaiko: fuckign Thaiko: shitfuckl Thaiko: SGTFU Thaiko: U Thaiko: FUCKIGN Thaiko: MRON Thaiko: iuseless shitr Thaiko: jungler

It's thanks to these that made you skipped the chat restrictions & 14 days suspension, making your account highly worthy to be instant permaban.

I still don't see why you even need to bother trying to "appeal" for your punishment at all, especially when you still got a lot of toxicity in your logs besides the ones I nitpicked here. You seriously straight up deserved this permaban.

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

Look, that is what you get. You only see that one specific game and insta decide that I deserve a permaban. You can't see what the others typed to me, you can't see what I typed in all those other games and still I deserve a permaban for one single bad game in 6 years of LoL. Good luck if they would lock you up after bars for each single mistake you wil make in your life.

Rumble is allowed to finish 2/11 without even bothered, but oh jeez if someone is giving comment on it. YES I KNOW I WAS WRONG! But insta perma ban without even a warning?

BeatzBoyFTWApr 16, 20174 votes

You can't see what the others typed to me

No one cares what the others type. It depends on how you respond to this. Do you just mute it away? Or talk back more crap just to be the better one? Apparently, you choosing the latter is obviously a bad idea.

Good luck if they would lock you up after bars for each single mistake you wil make in your life.

I can't even receive a chat restriction, so what're you on about?

Rumble is allowed to finish 2/11 without even bothered

Was he doing it by intentional feeding or just being inexperienced? Either way, talking shit at him WILL NOT solve the issue at all.

YES I KNOW I WAS WRONG! But insta perma ban without even a warning?

You don't really need a warning when your toxicity is stupidly higher than average. You're a big boy, you should know the incoming consequences of your own actions.

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

Jep, I know that I should have muted them, but I didn't. My mistake. but it seems like you aren't allowed to make mistakes. Except if you feed, troll and afk all the way.

Beinig inexperciened? Plat 3?

In one specific game? Is that the way how this community works? No space for helping players to get less toxic or no warnings because you did something wrong? And my "toxicity"? 1 bad game in 6 YEARS? Insane toxicity.

Alpha SamsuniApr 16, 20172 votes

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Beinig inexperciened? Plat 3?

So apparently you can't feed if you're plat because it's totally not like you're against plat-ish players amirite

KarunamonApr 16, 20171 votes

You only see that one specific game and insta decide that I deserve a permaban.

When your conduct in that one specific game is worthy of a permaban, then yes. You don't get banned for the times you weren't toxic, you get banned for the times you are.

Not hard to understand, dude.

Do better on your next account.

AnastaeciaApr 16, 20173 votes

If you have been playing that long than you should know by now that what others do/say doesn't matter. They are responsible for themselves just as you are.

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

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If you have been playing that long than you should know by now that what others do/say doesn't matter. They are responsible for themselves just as you are.

Jep, but still. It's just not fair to get blamed EVERY SINGLE game as jungler for all their deaths, while you end up with positive stats and they just keep feeding cause you don't gank their lane 24/7. No gank = I keep feeding than, np. That's what their attitude was. I've always been diamond and never ever experienced those kind of players, atleast not back when I played active. I find it sad to get such a hard punishement for 3 games where I started to flame after my team kept flaming me, blaming me and just went full modus troll/feed, whatever. Do they don't count the ALL the other games where I didn't said anything? Over those 6 years easly 4000 games and simply 3 bad games in a row results in a permaban. Sad.

Coopa123Apr 16, 20172 votes

Thaiko: I dont get how ori could push 24/7 withoutr being ganked a single time :p Insead SHE kept getting ganks from lee under my turret :p Amazing

Oh look. The guy complaining about getting the blame as a jungler blames the jungler.

Over those 6 years easly 4000 games and simply 3 bad games in a row results in a permaban. Sad.

Lived 25 years innocently and just 3 murders got me life in prison. Sad

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

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Oh look. The guy complaining about getting the blame as a jungler blames the jungler.

Did I flamed the hell out of the jungler? I'm just pointing out that Lee was ganking me under turret several times under turret and he easly could gank mid.

Lived 25 years innocently and just 3 murders got me life in prison. Sad

How do people keep comparasing a flame in a computergame vs killing people in real life? Lmao.

Coopa123Apr 16, 20171 votes

Thaiko: I dont get how ori could push 24/7 withoutr being ganked a single time :p

You didn't flame him. But talking in a condescending and passive-aggressive way about what your jungler did wrong + the obnoxious smiley face is just as bad.

How do people keep comparasing a flame in a computergame vs killing people in real life? Lmao.

Do you seriously have no clue about how analogies work? How old are you?

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

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You didn't flame him. But talking in a condescending and passive-aggressive way about what your jungler did wrong + the obnoxious smiley face is just as bad.

Do you seriously have no clue about how analogies work? How old are you?

Someone who killed 3 people gets life. Someone else who insulted another guy on computer game should also gets life cause they both have been breaking the 'rules'. Seems fair to you?

Coopa123Apr 16, 20173 votes

Holy moly you have already proven that you have no clue how an analogy works, no reason to make it worse.

You don't get life in prison by insulting someone in League. Why is a perfectly valid analogy so hard for you to understand? This is getting ridiculous

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

Holy moly, you still don't get it he?

The analogy is being used: I never did something wrong, but than killed 3 people. Should he be punished? Sure. Should he get life without parol? Sure.

I never did something wrong, but than flamed 3 people. Should I get punished? Sure. Should I get insta perma ban for it without a warning? No. It's not that my 'crime' was so bad that we have no any options left than perma ban you. There were other options to use, but didn't.

Another one:

I never did something wrong, but than killed 3 people. Should he be punished? Sure. Should he get life without parol? Sure.

I never drove too fast, but suddenly got 3 speeding tickets on one week. Should he be punished? Sure. Should he be punished THE SAME WAY for someone who killed 3 people after doing nothing wrong in his life?

Coopa123Apr 16, 20172 votes

If you just get three regular speeding tickets you get a fine and a warning.

In your case (being a homophobic bigot) you drove past a kindergarten with 120km/h which is completely unacceptable (Riot has a 0-tolerance policy when it comes to homophobes and racists) and you won't get your driver's licence back.

There we go. You once again prove that you have no idea how analogies work. Can we stop now?

ThaikoApr 17, 20171 votes

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If you just get three regular speeding tickets you get a fine and a warning.

In your case (being a homophobic bigot) you drove past a kindergarten with 120km/h which is completely unacceptable (Riot has a 0-tolerance policy when it comes to homophobes and racists) and you won't get your driver's licence back.

There we go. You once again prove that you have no idea how analogies work. Can we stop now?

Believe it or not, but you will get your driver licence back. Only if you keep doing it over and over. That's not my case + you are acting like I did the worst you could ever do in LoL while i'm sure that this kind of flame happens every second and people are flaming way worser than this (for example get c*ncer, go kill yourself, etc etc.)

Stop now about your analogies. It's about the output we're talking without being warned.

Coopa123Apr 17, 20172 votes

Riot has a 0 tolerance policy when it comes to homophobia and racism as I and many others here already told you. You pretty much did do the worst thing you could by being a homophobic bigot.

I don't know what else to say. If your a toxic idiot flaming everygame you get the usual punishment. But there is no tolerance or 2nd chances for a homophobic bigot like you. Deal with it

ThaikoApr 17, 20171 votes

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Riot has a 0 tolerance policy when it comes to homophobia and racism as I and many others here already told you. You pretty much did do the worst thing you could by being a homophobic bigot.

I don't know what else to say. If your a toxic idiot flaming everygame you get the usual punishment. But there is no tolerance or 2nd chances for a homophobic bigot like you. Deal with it

Pretty sad to judge someone as a 'homophobic bigot' based on 2 games where I said 1-2 words that you could say are 'homophobic'. +4000 games with no problems at all. One tilt game due to several bad actions and you are getting banned for life.

Leaf on BushApr 16, 20172 votes

Are you guys seriously?

Seriously... what?

Coopa123Apr 16, 20172 votes

Serious. Seriously serious is what he says!

Timethief49Apr 16, 20172 votes

riot has a 0 tolerance policy towards racism and hatespeech. f...ot is concidered homophobic and can lead to skipping punishment tiers. you using it plenty of times aggressivly together with other toxicity is a valid reason to instant perma. feelsbadman but you wont get your account back.

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

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riot has a 0 tolerance policy towards racism and hatespeech. f...ot is concidered homophobic and can lead to skipping punishment tiers. you using it plenty of times aggressivly together with other toxicity is a valid reason to instant perma. feelsbadman but you wont get your account back.

Homophobic? How can it be used in this context if you don't even know the guy is gay or not? That word would have a whole other meaning if you would use it against someone you know is gay.

Coopa123Apr 16, 20173 votes

Great explanation. Let's just call everybody a fa# or ni#ger because how could we possibly know their sexual orientation or skin color. Brilliant display of superior intellect

Not knowing what an analogy is is one thing, but not knowing how insults work just baffles me

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

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Great explanation. Let's just call everybody a fa# or ni#ger because how could we possibly know their sexual orientation or skin color. Brilliant display of superior intellect

Not knowing what an analogy is is one thing, but not knowing how insults work just baffles me

Lmao. That's the reason why blacks don't feel hate when called the n-word to eachother but do when I white guy is calling them the n-word.

Get yourself educated before you speak.

Coopa123Apr 16, 20172 votes

This might be the absolutely dumbest thing I have read on this board. Well done. You win hands down.

ThaikoApr 16, 20171 votes

You really don't get it he? Words can get a WHOLE NEW different meaning if they are used in a specific situation.

Madjack01Apr 16, 20171 votes

That title tilts me but you don't see me flaming about it.

If what you say is true however, that ban is a bit harsh.

Keep in mind though that being toxic because of a few trolls also ruins (in addition to the troll) the experience for the people that are actually trying to enjoy the game.

Flaming serves NO purpose ever in an online environment except that you get grey hair early.

franchise7676Apr 16, 20171 votes

ive had 12 accounts perma banned it doesn't even slow me down. use google see what i mean and you'll be back in no time.

EvilDustManApr 17, 20171 votes

I dunno man. You are saying out of all the games you've ever played, you only acted like this for 3 of them recently?

ThaikoApr 17, 20171 votes

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I dunno man. You are saying out of all the games you've ever played, you only acted like this for 3 of them recently?

If I was really that toxic, I would never ever had my account for more than 6 years. Some of my friends received chat restrictions for 1400 games, my max number was like 25 and that was 3 years ago.