Is this Toxic?

KID SALTYY··1 votes·697 views
League of Legends Match History

Hey guys, So basically just want the community opinion and possibly someone of higher authority to explain how this is worthy of a chat restriction. But let me give some backstory first. I was playing akali jungle think it was my 2nd or 3rd game playing her ever and was still learning her and I wasn't doing so well on top of lag spikes that I had pinged during the game. (was like 500 ping) Up and down. My team basically flamed me for doing poorly 3/4 of them and it wasn't helping me play any better. Take a look at the chat logs because after game the majority reported me. Now there were 2 other games prior that I was a bit toxic in but the chat restricted listed this game as toxic.

KID SALTYY: ward KID SALTYY: im lagging whole game KID SALTYY: yea dont KID SALTYY: afk KID SALTYY: ask KID SALTYY: look at my ping KID SALTYY: thats fine KID SALTYY: until my ping is stable KID SALTYY: ill help KID SALTYY: keep talking KID SALTYY: in a level 20 normals KID SALTYY: nice mechanics KID SALTYY: i havent said anything toxic KID SALTYY: just complemented him KID SALTYY: u guys are so rood KID SALTYY: this my first time jungle KID SALTYY: and yall flaming me KID SALTYY: huh KID SALTYY: please stop typing KID SALTYY: pl report zed toxic all game to me KID SALTYY: hes flaming me on level 20 bots normal game KID SALTYY: ur getting banned m8 KID SALTYY: so toxic KID SALTYY: thanks KID SALTYY: GG

27 Comments

The Cream Reaper2 votes

something is fishy about that chatlog

please post unedited chatlogs

ty

KID SALTYY1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:28:10.470+0000)

something is fishy about that chatlog

please post unedited chatlogs

ty That's literally the entire chat log for that game! I'm just as confused as you are. I have chat logs to other seperate games but those are completely different games.

Sona Ping1 votes

[{quoted}](name=KID SALTYY,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:29:46.244+0000)

That's literally the entire chat log for that game! I'm just as confused as you are. I have chat logs to other seperate games but those are completely different games.

Would you post screenshots showing those games?

KID SALTYY1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:30:59.894+0000)

Would you post screenshots showing those games?

I didnt take any...

Sona Ping2 votes

Go take some; you have a copy in your email associated with the account.

KID SALTYY1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:34:23.245+0000)

Go take some; you have a copy in your email associated with the account.

They didn't email me anything.

Sona Ping1 votes

[{quoted}](name=KID SALTYY,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:36:56.226+0000)

They didn't email me anything.

mhmmm. Well, you can check again. Or you can go submit a ticket for them.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

then just screenshot the ones in your client notification

KID SALTYY1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:42:01.443+0000)

then just screenshot the ones in your client notification

How do I post a screenshot on forums?

nerak231 votes

[{quoted}](name=KID SALTYY,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:50:35.758+0000)

How do I post a screenshot on forums?

I'm not sure how to do it anymore, hopefully some one can help!

KatsuKaila1 votes

play windowed, and, if you have a mac, command+shift+4, if not, snipping tool

nerak231 votes

{quoted}

play windowed, and, if you have a mac, command+shift+4, if not, snipping tool

Thanks for the reply :) my PC is getting fixed so I'm just using a tablet right now. This is new so ...well, anyway my roommate helped me on here it's power and sound down simultaneously. Odd way lol. Thanks again !

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

They no longer email chat logs to players anymore, they are only available through the in-client Reform Card, or by submitting a ticket to Player Support. In the past, they would email them at the time a punishment was issued, but that was before they had the IFS set up, and while it was in it's earlier stages. Now, there's not really a reason to bother with emailing them out.

The easiest way to post screenshots on the forums is by uploading the files to an image hosting site, like imgur, gyazo, photobucket, or a similar file-sharing site that allows you to directly hotlink. From there, you just post the link in a comment. I personally use imgur and photobucket, so they are the ones I am most familiar with. Both of them allow you to create albums containing multiple images, which can be helpful when you are posting 3+ images to show all of the logs. You can then post the individual image links into the body of a comment, or, you can post the link to the album. When you are creating the original thread post, it gives you the option to add an image link as well. It's been a very long time since I created a thread, so I'm not sure if it lets you go back in and edit in an image link to the original post, but you can add in links as part of the body even if you can't edit it in as the link that displays on the search page.

Jo0o is probably right about what happened with this punishment. It was likely the other two matches that led primarily to your punishment, but there were things in this match that don't necessarily look too good.

Going afk makes it harder on your team, as it automatically puts them in a 4v5. If your ping is unstable, it might be faster for you to try and simply log out and back in, to try and see if that fixes the problem. Most players will understand if you simply tell them that you're having really weird ping issues, and that you're going to quickly relog. Just ask them to play safe for a minute, and tell them you'll be ganking as soon as you get back. It's a very minor thing, and going afk isn't going to get someone banned for toxicity, but it is the sort of thing that will cause strife within a team if you don't work on damage control as soon as you realize what is happening. I see this sort of thing all the time. My duo partner actually has this happen sometimes once during my promos! He was gone for over 5 minutes, and my team was getting really, really upset. But, as long as you do a little bit of sucking up, and go out of your way to be extra nice in those matches, you can usually stop people from flipping out and going off into a full on flame war.

The main thing that I think probably went against you in the match though was taunting the zed with being banned. It's definitely not the worst thing I've ever seen, and me personally, I wouldn't have reported you for just that, but it's pretty bm. It's just not a good idea to threaten people with reports or bans. None of us are perfect, and everyone says something a little snide from time to time. Karma has a way of catching up to us (E-W-R+Q usually) and when it does, it tends to leave players subjected to the same punishments that they taunt other players with.

Something else to keep in mind, the Reform Card shows a selection of recent games that you were reported in, and that the IFS found to contain some amount of negativity or toxicity. That doesn't mean that all the matches are equally toxic, or that you were reported the same amount in all of them. Some matches can be very, very mild compared to others. They are simply included as an example to the player of behaviors that were reported by their teammates/opponents as being offensive.

One last thing, about the possible group reporting. Just to clear something up, since I see that Cream Reaper has already posted the quote from Riot Tantram about how the IFS reads reports, but he didn't go into much detail about it. Multiples reports don't do anything. It's actually useless to ask for reports. The IFS reviews every single report that is submitted, so all it ever takes is one. Having 9 reports in a match doesn't make them mysteriously stronger, it doesn't give them any more weight, and it doesn't make your punishment any worse. If a player doesn't do anything wrong, but gets reported by 9 people, all 9 of those reports are going to be tossed out as being false.

Jo0o2 votes

Obviously the other games were the main reason you were restricted.

The problem with this log is probably that you were taunting a guy with getting him banned, which escalates the argument to the detriment of everybody in the game. It's not the worst thing you can do, and probably not enough on its own to get restricted, but it's certainly negativity and can contribute to the punishment.

KID SALTYY1 votes

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Obviously the other games were the main reason you were restricted.

The problem with this log is probably that you were taunting a guy with getting him banned, which escalates the argument to the detriment of everybody in the game. It's not the worst thing you can do, and probably not enough on its own to get restricted, but it's certainly negativity and can contribute to the punishment.

Yea, I feel like the system just threw this game in since I didn't have any other game besides the two I was toxic in to view.

zPOOPz1 votes

so where are the other 2 non-cherry-picking game logs?

nerak231 votes

?? Have you been punished before ? At first look by your chat, I can only say I wouldn't have reported this. Gl

TheEvilQueen1351 votes

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?? Have you been punished before ? At first look by your chat, I can only say I wouldn't have reported this. Gl

it was probably the zed that reported him

KID SALTYY1 votes

{quoted}

it was probably the zed that reported him

Not only the Zed, but the soraka and jax.

nerak231 votes

{quoted}

it was probably the zed that reported him

Yeah, I think your right with that. If there is a history or logs we aren't seeing it might be more to the story.

OP, did they send anything else ?

Sona Ping1 votes

Two other game logs he was "a bit toxic in".

nerak231 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0LPkRxxi,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2017-12-28T15:41:26.421+0000)

Two other game logs he was "a bit toxic in".

Yeah I noticed that. ;)

KID SALTYY1 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, I think your right with that. If there is a history or logs we aren't seeing it might be more to the story.

OP, did they send anything else ?

Again, Thats the entire chat log for that game. The soraka and jax also agreed to reporting me.. Could have been a pre-made messing with me although I'm not sure.

The Cream Reaper2 votes

number of reports doesn't matter

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=t4BNHARj,comment-id=00030000000000000002,timestamp=2017-05-09T20:27:51.768+0000)

4+ reports is the same as 1.

A report, or 9 reports, flag a game for review.

if (reports > 0) { reviewGame(); }

TheEvilQueen1351 votes

might have been confused by the afk but then again probably the constant talking about how zed was being toxic, asking people to report him, telling him he's getting banned. could be seen as harassment/griefing.

also just an fyi, situations don't matter in restrictions and bans. AND you don't need to ask others to report someone because you reporting them already gets their logs looked at. 1 report is as strong as 9.

invisiblecat11 votes

KID SALTYY: pl report zed toxic all game to me

Rallying for reports alone is enough to get punished for

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