Riot's So-called Polices Have Been Helping Trolls

Desmond23·Jun 28, 2017·2 votes·730 views

So, there was a troll in my recent game, took the lane that I called and picked in Champion Selection without any communication.

YES, this is blind pick, and I know a lot of people will say "oh, it's blind pick, why do you even care". But to be honest, there are a lot people playing blind pick normal games, and I believe that they want good gaming experiences too. For almost 7 years (all along), Riot has failed dealing with trolls like this.

And yeah, in this kind of situation, I refused to play with this kind of player. He ruined my game, and wasted time of the whole team (other players agreed with this). Later on, I was charged for being AFK by Riot. Lmao, really? Riot? So, bascially, Riot is telling me that I HAVE TO ACCEPT this kind of trolls and bad behaviours. I also know that there will be a bunch of people saying "oh, no matter what, you should keep playing". I mean, this doesn't make sense at all. If someone ruins my game on purpose, I still need to co-operate and keep playing? Really?

Plus, I accept the charge of being afk IF Riot deals with what that troll did. However, that's not the case. So, the victim has to accept what the troll's done to him, or he'll be charged for being refusing to compromise.

Great policies. No wonder there are so many trolls in this game, all along.

13 Comments

MUSHROOM MIDGETJun 29, 20173 votes

he has one thing right. this game is paradise for trolls. a team dependent game where their victims cant leave.

Jo0oJun 28, 20172 votes

Shaky logic there.

Blind Pick is a mess. We know it, Riot knows it. I'm not sure how they'd fix it without basically just turning it into Draft, though, so for now it stays a mess.

If you AFKed from your game, Riot has no way of knowing if what you did was "justified". Surely you can't expect them to manually review any game where somebody cries "troll", right? Especially since the loose rules of Blind Pick mean that what your teammate did wasn't even necessarily against the rules.

Desmond23Jun 28, 20171 votes

I understand that this kind of work is hard, but as a player who's been playing this game for so many years, I really don't see the progress, trolls are still trolls, akfs are still afks. These are all connected, if there's no troll, then there'll be less afk.

Plus, the 15min surrender system is also not making any sense. In that game I talked about, 4 people agreed to surrender, one didn't, then al the 4 should compromise to that ONE? REALLY? See, it's not just how hard the work is, it's also about how you deal with it.

KartagiaJun 29, 20171 votes

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I understand that this kind of work is hard, but as a player who's been playing this game for so many years, I really don't see the progress, trolls are still trolls, akfs are still afks. These are all connected, if there's no troll, then there'll be less afk.

Plus, the 15min surrender system is also not making any sense. In that game I talked about, 4 people agreed to surrender, one didn't, then al the 4 should compromise to that ONE? REALLY? See, it's not just how hard the work is, it's also about how you deal with it.

And RIot programming competence has not improved at all. Exploits we had on season 1 are still out there as Riot refuse to admit they exist and to fix them. RIot is so naive they believe people in network game does not communicate in network. They claim "not admit flaws" makes exploits less frequent. NO, it does not. Those who exploit tell it to all on their sites. IT only makes Riot appear stupid and ignorant.

Main reason RIot policy supports trolling: they made it policy that you should not defend yourself, as it is not nice to person who is violating rules! You should be nice to person who beats you into pulp as it is the way RIot wants to do it. And then trust Riot maybe does sometign to it - they will never tell you if they did. THey never give statistics how many punishments were dealt, and how many false reports there was. And did they punish false reporters like they claim. NOpe. Sorry, but I have lost all trust in RIot games INC, as they have constantly blatantly lied to us.

Desmond23Jun 29, 20172 votes

For all these years, with the money that they earned, what have they done? Pushing out new Loot System and skins? Which are for earning more money? I mean when was the last time they did the champion visual update (not remake)? There are still so many champs with those old models from S1, seriously?

It's all about how they use the resources. Pushing out those brand new systems to help them to earn more money is not for players' benefits at all. Not to mention how fast they push out those brand new and expensive skins. Do those skins help to improve the gaming experience? No.

ModPeriscopeJun 29, 20172 votes

Your afk seems warranted and necessary. Firstly, your original issue: helping the trolls. I'm thinking if afk's were allowed for this reason, then I think that just rewards the troll. Don't like me in your lane? you're free to afk and teammates will hate you. Secondly, when you afk, the rest of your team isn't dealing with a troll, but now they're dealing with 2.

Allowing for afk's just seems like you're worsening a problem, not fixing it.

Desmond23Jun 29, 20171 votes

My teammates completely understood why I afk, and they got no problem with it because that game was ruined anyway. I was not the reason why the game was ruined. What I did was actually not afk, it was the action that fought against bad behaviors like stealing other people's role. If I kept playing, then I compromised, that guy would do the same thing to other people next time. GOT IT?

Plus, I SAID I'm willing to be punished for afk, but what about that troll? Did he get any punishment?

AraMoOseJun 29, 20171 votes

The mistake you are making is to think that other people's behavior is an excuse for your own. We both agree people shouldn't steal your role. You don't get to waste 9 people's time just because one of them has been mean to you.

    You're free to keep playing blind picks of course, but if your complaint is that people take your role, you should at least consider using the queue that is specifically designed to garantee you play your role.

Desmond23Jun 29, 20171 votes

I KNEW there will be people like you. Yeah yeah, I'm finding excuses. Do you even know what you are talking about?

OK, so your logic is, I wanted to afk, but I couldn't find a reason to afk, hey that guy stole my role, yay, I could finally afk. WTH? Is this really the case? The real problem is that that guy stole my role and ruined the game, the rest of the team agreed with me, and all blamed that guy for wasting our time, GOT IT?

So, the guy stole my role, he's playing, he's a good guy. Me, the victim? Well, nobody cares, you lose your role, still have to play. So, go compromise. The troll wins. People like you are the reason why that guy would steal my role without worrying about anything. Because he wouldn't be blamed in any case. If the victim afk, well, the victim would be blamed, if the victim kept playing, he got the role anyways.

Your logic is exactly the problem that I'm talking about in this post. This is like political correctness, nonsense.

archerno1Jun 29, 20171 votes

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I KNEW there will be people like you. Yeah yeah, I'm finding excuses. Do you even know what you are talking about?

OK, so your logic is, I wanted to afk, but I couldn't find a reason to afk, hey that guy stole my role, yay, I could finally afk. WTH? Is this really the case? The real problem is that that guy stole my role and ruined the game, the rest of the team agreed with me, and all blamed that guy for wasting our time, GOT IT?

So, the guy stole my role, he's playing, he's a good guy. Me, the victim? Well, nobody cares, you lose your role, still have to play. So, go compromise. The troll wins. People like you are the reason why that guy would steal my role without worrying about anything. Because he wouldn't be blamed in any case. If the victim afk, well, the victim would be blamed, if the victim kept playing, he got the role anyways.

Your logic is exactly the problem that I'm talking about in this post. This is like political correctness, nonsense.

Noone stole your role. Blind pick is one and only queue atm we have that doesnt have set roles. You can play 2 mid, 2 junglers, no adc and everything you want and its not trolling. You are not victim here, your team is, including guy u talk about

AraMoOseJun 29, 20171 votes

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I KNEW there will be people like you. Yeah yeah, I'm finding excuses. Do you even know what you are talking about?

OK, so your logic is, I wanted to afk, but I couldn't find a reason to afk, hey that guy stole my role, yay, I could finally afk. WTH? Is this really the case? The real problem is that that guy stole my role and ruined the game, the rest of the team agreed with me, and all blamed that guy for wasting our time, GOT IT?

So, the guy stole my role, he's playing, he's a good guy. Me, the victim? Well, nobody cares, you lose your role, still have to play. So, go compromise. The troll wins. People like you are the reason why that guy would steal my role without worrying about anything. Because he wouldn't be blamed in any case. If the victim afk, well, the victim would be blamed, if the victim kept playing, he got the role anyways.

Your logic is exactly the problem that I'm talking about in this post. This is like political correctness, nonsense.

So you wrote an entire chapter here in response to something I didn't say. If a guy steals your role you can a. dodge b. Deal with it like an adult and then report him after the game.

          Getting yourself in trouble for violating rules is NOT a practical way to teach this guy not to steal roles. 

But if you'd rather keep smashing your head against the wall to remove your headache, that's on you. Have fun with that.