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Rengar Bug - Regular Q grants Attack Speed

lm Krueger ml··2 votes·1,420 views

Sooo, I may not be the most popular guy for pointing this one out but..

I've noticed that Rengar's normal Q attack will grant bonus attack speed for one basic attack on top of the listed benefits in the tooltip.

I remember Scruffy saying he would test out this mechanic to help Rengar's early jungle clear, but as far as I know it wasn't supposed to actually go in the final kit. Since this isn't actually listed in the tooltip I figure it must be a bug.

Honestly I'd consider keeping it since its actually quite neat.

You get the Attack Speed buff as soon as you activate the ability and it will stay on you for 2 basic attacks (the first enhanced basic attack plus one normal attack). This does mean that the Attack Speed boost will be gained even on Structures.

I should also note that this Steroid will stack with the Attack Speed Steroid from his Enhanced Q.

Reporduction steps:

  • Pick Rengar
  • Use Q
  • Observe Attack Speed

Edit (20-06-14): To clarify I'm not referring to the attack reset that occurs. Its a literal hidden +x% attack speed buff.

10 Comments

RiotMeddler2 votes

Thanks for the report. That attack speed bonus for a single attack's deliberately there to ensure the regular Q is quick/responsive. A few other champions use the same approach (Vi's E from memory for example).

lm Krueger ml1 votes

Just to make sure we're on the same page, it lasts beyond the scope of the Q attack.

What you say makes sense if it only lasted for the single basic attack making the Q animation faster. However, the bonus sticks around for one extra basic attack. This means you're actually getting a fairly significant (40% bonus AS) steroid for not just the Q attack but one extra attack after.

Also because the Q doesn't activate on Structures you get this AS bonus for about 2 seconds before it fades off you during which time you can happily strike a Tower repeatedly.

This also stacks alongside the Enhanced Q to give at level 1: 50% + 40% + 40% (not sure additive or multiplicative) bonus Attack Speed for a couple seconds on Structures. Granted this is hard to make use of (you have to activate the Q2 on a minion), but its definitely possible to exploit this for a fairly significant boost.

I neeeeeeeeed it2 votes

You should do it to a certain champion's Q as well..

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I neeeeeeeeed it2 votes

You mean this, right?

lm Krueger ml1 votes

Yes that's it.

FF12241 votes

its supposed to reset auto attack.

lm Krueger ml2 votes

I understand that, but I'm talking about something different.

There is a hidden literal +x% Attack Speed buff that is gained for 2 basic attacs when activating Q.

RiotMeddler4 votes

Ah, apologies, misunderstood you the first time. Thanks for the catch.

CaptainWednesday1 votes

Does the % AS show up in the stats area? If not, could you get this bug on video and post it here?

lm Krueger ml1 votes

It was showing for me on the stats area. I watched my AS value and it visually increased on using the skill (I assume that's what you're referring to, there is no 'bonus AS' stat as far as I know?).

I'll check again to make sure I can reproduce it.

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