Why don't You guys keep doing the journal of Justice or something cool lore related?

Yeah i hate the trundle lore change but his new look it cool and i Think the Jarven Leblanc thing would be CRAZY and awesome if they did an event about someone finding out or like her coming out as a fake as an event or something

It's especially odd that the lore was out when they were adding a new champion every two weeks, but now we don't even get one every two months and still nothing about Journal of Justice.

I suspect, however, it has something to do with the fact that league has become less of a 'casual' players game and more into the world of e-sports and meta gameplay.

Which is sad, because I love both

I disagree about Trundle's lore, solely due to the fact that he just didn't really fit in. The reason why they changed it was because he just didn't really fit into the world, he was just in his own little world. Now he's an integral part of the Freljord conflict.

I would loooove a feature game mode where you chose a side in some sort of conflict and played champions only from each respective side. Demacia vs. Noxus anyone?

rito plz

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That would be an buff.

LoLcrafts.

Carboot plz.

Unfortunately, that's all background character information, not "lore."

Let's take two characters, call them "Hero" and "Villain."

"Hero" is a reformed criminal now pursuing justice with an inside knowledge of how crime works. "Villain" is a crazy young woman with a penchant for combining practical jokes and murder. Now, give "Hero" a pair of oversized punching gauntlets, a really cool pink hairstyle and a punk rock attitude and theme song while you give "Villain" an awesome music video showing her having fun through reckless abandonment and absolute mayhem with three guns.

What you have, despite the awesome nature of the products and the hard work of the creators, is a different version of each champion's background information.

Same with the Shadow Isles/Twisted Treeline changes (which are still incomplete since Evelynn's interactions with the alter spirits are not impements NOR is her story included in the thing) as well as the Freljord conflict.

You only get "lore" when conflicts develop, both on a global scale . That was what the Journal of Justice did. It gave extra information about relationships between champions and developed interesting avenues, like Garen's possible relationship with Katarina and Gragas' growth from hillbilly to businessman.

If Riot can deliver on providing deep, complex lore without using "bigger chunks of text," I look forward to seeing it, but I don't expect it anytime soon, Soon™, or within my lifetime.

Yeah, that minigame that... had nothing happen at the end of it? Or logins screen and pre-release stuff that...are basically just backstory that could get equally by reading their backstory? And Jinx's music video is not lore, it's 3 minutes of 'JINX IS CRAZY!' And I liked the music video, it was really cool, but it's not lore. Nothing happened in the video. It didn't even detail anything about Jinx that you wouldn't know by playing her or reading her quotes.

I get that nothing is going to happen of this, and that is the exact same answer that we've been getting for years now, but please have SOMETHING happen. Like, I get that you can't really have Yi kill Singed because Singed still needs to be playable, but nothing is happening to Runeterra. The only story we get outside of champion releases are retcons and the occasional event. Just have your characters interact; in game probably isn't a good place to have this, but can't you have monthly comic strips or stories just having the champions sit around and talk about things? I'd love that. Like maybe you can say 'oh well no one reads those' but I do! I love that sort of shit!

I think my main complaint is that every time we complain about the lack of lore we get A) 'oh but we have tons of lore, like Jinx's music video!' which I don't count as lore, just extensions of a champion release or B) 'we're setting up for future lore releases, so stay tuned!' and then they never come. Like, apparently Trundle's old story was finished so you had to change him so you can do stories with him? Okay, where are they? It's been how long now?

I don't really expect anything to change, but seriously now, you keep adding hints and changes that never amount of anything. Like, apperantly Cass has a relationship to the Shurima Desert somehow? And you retconned Anivia being from another place, so presumably Nasus and Renekton are from Shurima now. And so is Sivir. So...where's the story in all that? Why does Sivir have a rivalry with Cass? What are Nasus' and Renekton's current status? Is this ever going to get resolved? And if it's 'later', when is later? You keep setting up for a payoff that is never going to happen.

I understand you lore fiends want bigger chunks of text and fiction to sink your teeth into, but I think we can do deep, complex lore without requiring people to read something which then has little to no game impact. We're always exploring new ways to do this kind of thing, so stay tuned.

Sorry, I find it highly unlikely you can tell a deep complex lore story without some form of reading or visual storytelling. Imo the things you listed are neat but not deep lore items, the Freljord event was ok but how much lore did we really learn? Not a whole lot.

Lucian's log in screen was at least a lore teaser but unfortunately it was just that a teaser trailer. Jinx's Music Video was awesome but not chock full of lore, chock full of music and gun play for sure and that is fun but not much for a compelling story.

The other events lately have all been similarly lacking in depth. I believe that to tell a good story, which is basically what lore is. You are going to have to tell a good story, in text, visually, or whatever other ways you can find. I highly doubt much lore will ever have a large impact in game no matter how it is presented.

I agree that lore is important, and I personally love it when we pull off lore well. However, I stopped reading the JoJ after just a few issues. It was just too much text with too little actual game impact. In the end of the day, the primary way in which 95% of our playerbase interacts with whatever we end up creating for Runeterra is by playing the game. That's why I think lore that ties directly into the game is so much cooler. The Freljord event and the three queens minigame (full disclosure: Meddler and I implemented the minigame, so I may be biased here) is much cooler. Or things like Lucian's login screen, Yasuo's pre-release story reveal, Jinx vandalizing Vi's champion page and so on.

I understand you lore fiends want bigger chunks of text and fiction to sink your teeth into, but I think we can do deep, complex lore without requiring people to read something which then has little to no game impact. We're always exploring new ways to do this kind of thing, so stay tuned.

It's almost like people have been telling you that this isn't what they want, or how they see things for four years or more. But we're still just gettin' various versions of this post. But surely you guys know better than the people who have been ultra patient with you for years, and all those people who aren't remotely satisfied with your approach. I'm sure you'll read this and immediately the first response will be the trained response/fallacy of 'But the forums are a vocal minority!' which would be slammed with a hammer in a real discussion.

I shudder to think about what your opinions on actual literature are.

Yes. Give this man a medal

There is a lot of cool lore if you go back and research older champions. Everyone had intertwining stories and events in Runeterra actually progressed regularly instead of getting 1 tiny thing every 2 months.

let me tell how it can be linked to riot making money:

1. Player signs up for lol about hearing about lores
2. Player plays games
3. Player hears about skins
4. Player sees skin and relizes there awesome.
5. Player buys skins and contiues playing and reading lores. Skins cost money. Boom