@Riot,when reworking kayle try to keep her utility plz

namielise·6/20/2014, 9:16:15 AM·2 votes·1,099 views

i think that what sets her a part as a holy female angel is the utility she has in the heal/haste and especially the ult, it's so iconic. So when you are "working" on her (which you are now) can you please consider keeping her utility and hit the damage (her damage is just insane anyway) because i think her theme is just right for a utility champion (and yes i just LOVE playing kayle support): she is an angel defending justice so i think it's best suited for her to give up some damage for the sake of utility. thanks guys and keep up the good work

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Lord Graves III6/20/2014, 9:57:37 AM1 votes

My thing is, she isn't a defending angel. She is THE Judicator Kayle . She is an avenging angel of retribution complete with flaming sword. Here to pass judgement on the enemy summoner 11

That said I feel keeping some utility is important. Personally though, I think Kayle should be turned into a (mostly) melee fighter. Whats the point of a suit of armor and flaming sword when all she does is throw fire blasts from a distance. Kayle ticks me off. >_<

Seriously. I love her character, lore, and core fantasy. She just fails to deliver on any of them. Take a chainsaw to her kit. Give us a real avenging angel. Give us a polar opposite to Morgana? Do it Riot!

They are sisters on opposite sides and ideologies! (and Morgana doesn't have a kit that constantly has balance problems)

Morg is ranged, Kayle should be melee (she already has the sword). Morg is squishy and mostly naked, Kayle should be a brickhouse (if only in comparason). Morg walks Kayle flies. Morg shields allies from damage, what if Kayle steroids ally damage?

I just feel her current kit doesn't deliver on any of the promises her lore, splash art, archtype, voice, or even base fantasy aspire to. T_T

Im sorry if I sorta came in here with an entirely different angle than you were hoping for. I wanted to find a thread discussing Kayle changes. item 3070

jimethn6/20/2014, 6:59:08 PM1 votes

My rework idea for Kayle, which goes along with your thoughts I think:

Make Q slow scale on AP as well
Make W heal+movespeed scale on Kayle's HP
Make E single target but do more damage (and maybe lower the duration)
Make R lower duration but the duration scales on Kayle's HP

This way Kayle can build HP and be support or build AP and be a nuker, but going pure AP Kayle won't make her the invincible speedy nuking machine she is now. Just changing those two scalings fixes her current OP status while opening up multiple build paths. Now you have to choose between damage and utility instead of getting them both for one stat. If you go pure damage Kayle like before you'll still have just as much damage but you won't have 3 seconds on invincibility. Or you can go tanky support Kayle and take her botlane, something that was never a viable option before. Support Kayle would have good synergy with both Sightstone and Ardent Censer, and making E single target means she can trade without pushing the lane.

Lord Graves III6/20/2014, 9:16:02 PM1 votes

If I may offer a different question.

Ive already stated that I feel Kayle's kit is a mess and she needs a new one, but a question riot always asks us when they start researching for reworks.

What are the things in Kayle's kit that absolutely have to be there? What has to be there for it to still feel like "Kayle"?

When answering, keep in mind....Kayle has already been remade once. She used to have a completely different kit than she does now.**

what does kayle need to do to still be kayle? Is range important? Healing? Invulnerability? Damage amping?

Solarious286/25/2014, 12:10:14 PM1 votes

Agreed, I love Kayle.