Well, it is pretty simple, his ult just doesn't deal 400% damage to minions like it says it should.
The bug happens in every game, does not seem to be item related either.
To reproduce:
Thanks for the consideration!
Auryiel13 votesLost a game because of it ;-;
Battalion2 votesI can agree to this, I tried picking up an AP Lucian (Since I want to add him to my mid roster) and I was at 3k damage normal for the Culling, I go to mid lane, I should've obliterated the wave and rolled in gold. I did...but it took every shot. I should've had some to spare. The wave was only 7 minions deep.
Dessem12 votesThat explains why Lucian still hasn't saved Senna, he can't even clear a minion wave.
Battalion3 votesNo, he can clear a minion wave, but he's using a Toy's 'R' Us toy to do it.
Myz2 votesI can agree to this, I tried picking up an AP Lucian (Since I want to add him to my mid roster) and I was at 3k damage normal for the Culling, I go to mid lane, I should've obliterated the wave and rolled in gold. I did...but it took every shot. I should've had some to spare. The wave was only 7 minions deep.
Ap lucian, lol w0t ? The problem is the ''AP lucian'' part, not the actual bug.
Sicarius Æternum3 votesLucian's ult scales with AP, so it is possible to go ap lucian. I've done hybrid lucian and such before, it gives you lots of utility. AP lucian isn't the problem
Myz2 votesLucian's ult scales with AP, so it is possible to go ap lucian. I've done hybrid lucian and such before, it gives you lots of utility. AP lucian isn't the problem
It's not optimal, why would you build something that allow you to exploit the champion's kit 100% ?
Battalion2 votesI take use of the mobility from his W and the amount of AoE burst it gives. Building AP CDR allows you to skate across the rift as well as lay out some pretty heavy aoe dps.
My Waifu Vanilla2 votesIt isn't "optimal" but it is far from trash tier since he has 2 very good AP scalings and does well with a Nashor's Tooth for single target (passive applies it twice).
junglerboy162 votesI wouldn't be surprised if this is actually a tooltip bug instead of a damage bug, since they seemed to dislike him having free wave clear all the time (that was when they nerfed the CD by a lot) and may have actually nerfed it without putting it in the patch notes somewhere.
Xrusa1 votesThis would be a pretty big intentional change to hide, I don't think Riot would do that.
junglerboy161 votesOh really?
Master Yi just got his W AP ratio nerfed from 30-60% per second down to 15-30% per second. According to Meddler, right here
This is a tooltip correction only. The actual ratio's been 0.15 for a long time.
(Emphasis added)
Or look at Sion's Q: For several months (about 5 if I'm not mistaken) his tooltip erroneously stated that his Decimating smash dealt 80% damage to minions and monsters. This was in fact not true, and apparently hadn't been for a very long time, possibly since the last time his Q was ever mentioned in the Patch notes back in 5.6, maybe even earlier. According to Riot Scruffy, right here
Unfortunately this is a tooltip bug. I'll double check next week and make sure that the intended numbers are working but my hunch is that 60% is the real number that he is balanced around.
That thread about Sion was from 4 months ago. The fix never showed up in patch notes and only just recently showed up in the Wiki, and as far as I can tell that is just because somebody went to the trouble of calculating the actual values and typing it in, not because Riot fixed the issue.
These are only two recent examples, there are undoubtedly several more, some possibly larger than this. THAT is why I would not be surprised by this being a tooltip bug and an undocumented nerf.
Xrusa1 votesI think the fact that riot hasn't commented on this situation makes it different, because there's been multiple posts every day since the change and no red post.
junglerboy161 votesThere were at least a couple months of people spamming the "report a bug" board with reports on Sion's Q not working before a red noticed.
Honestly, I think the only reason nobody noticed that Yi's AP ratio was actually lower is that up until recently, nobody in their right mind built AP on him, or enough to make the disparity noticeable.
Xrusa1 votesI had a response from Riot Support on twitter, they are aware of the issue and are working on fixing it. Their tweet when I asked when they were going to fix him "Very soon! After many players such as yourself have reached out to us, we have been looking into fixing Lucian right up."
Magus Polaris1 votes"Intentionally hide", yes it would be. "Forget to include it in the patch notes", Riot has done that, like, four times already in this preseason alone, so... that's four times just this month.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesSo what your saying is Lucian should have to be punished for having to waste his ult on clearing waves of minions? I guess its time to increase the CD of Ezreals ult as well as nerf its scalings since he does the same thing.
junglerboy161 votesUh, no actually. Not at all. Riot are the ones who didn't like his ult as waveclear.
I'm saying Riot probably already nerfed this and "forgot" to put it in the patch notes.
I honestly don't give a rip about Lucian's balance mate.
Sicarius Æternum2 votesDear lord Riot this has almost 60 upvotes in REPORT A BUG, and Lucian is a free champ right now. Pls fix this or at least say that you acknowledge this bug
My Shadow1 votesYes, I made a post about this too, hope it gets's fixed soon cause it's incredibly more difficult to use your ult now and makes me not want to play him.
Universal Boop1 votesYep can confirm his ult hits minions like a wet noodle
Jhera1 votesYup I too noticed that my ulti does way less damage against creeps than it should.
The Ecdysiast1 votesYes. This.
ID4WBt22dv1 votesyo wtf this bug has been aroudn for like 5 days now and still no hot fix or disable on llucian? LIKE WTF RITO READ YOUR OWN BOARDS
Rabbid9991 votesYeah thats true, I've recently started playing Lucian and saw the damage was 400% to minions so i was like yeah! So i tried to clear a wave and it didnt do it very fast at all
Nautoday1 votesI couldn't even kill a single minion with it. :'(
Joltforce1 votesRito hotfix this shit
Scramrail1 votesCan confirm this as well. Played a game the other day and my ult was struggling to clear minion waves.
Honestly it was looking so weak vs. minions I almost wondered if it was doing less damage to minions than champs.
HunterShift1 votesIt seems that on his champion info page the ability in the video demonstration doesn't have the 400% damage increase to minions as well.. Maybe it is a intented nerf? QQ
herculies1 votesHappen to me too.
VayneMayneMaybe1 votesPeople are saying that Riot may have done this to nerf his wave clear. But if this is the way there doing it then it is just not right. The fact that 1 minion can block all of Lucian's ult just makes in not good.
The Father1 votesJust happened to me too
xKingoftheCrease1 votesI really hope this is an unintended BUG, if it is, it'd be nice for us players if you acknowledged it even if you can't correct it yet.
