Fiddle Sticks Fear vs Lux Ulty

InfinitiGold·Sep 12, 2015·2 votes·372 views

During play in ARAM, playing as Fiddle Sticks, I used his fear on Lux shortly after the beginning of her ultimate animation. The fear proct'd above her head during the animation, however, her ultimate was not interrupted at all by the fear. Rather, her animation continued as normal, her ultimate went off, and then Fiddle's fear timer (what was left of it) finished off with Lux moving away slowly. Again, the fear only functioned after her ultimate completed, and then the fear lasted for the remaining duration. Isn't Fiddle's fear supposed to take some precedence?

Thank you!

7 Comments

CatastropSep 12, 20153 votes

Lux's ult is on a Cast Time. No amount of CC can stop those, you need to kill the person casting before it finishes.

InfinitiGoldSep 12, 20151 votes

Thank you for clarifying... the post below yours linked to the Wiki on her abilities.

Archon XSep 12, 20151 votes

"Cast times cannot be interrupted by crowd control effects. During the cast time, Lux will ignore crowd control effects but still suffers from them if the duration persists."

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Lux

Go to her ult, then click Ability Details.

InfinitiGoldSep 12, 20151 votes

Thank you for clarifying... the post below yours linked to the Wiki on her abilities. Arguably, the Wiki may contain many inaccuracies. For example, if you read on Malzahar's channeled 'R' (ulty) ability, it says,"Like all channeled abilities, Nether Grasp will be interrupted by hard crowd control like stuns and silences, and will end prematurely if Malzahar attempts another action, e.g. moving or casting other abilities." http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Malzahar However, it does not cover fear. If channeled abilities on some champs can be interrupted but on others cannot, then I argue there may be some unfair inconsistencies for channeled abilities. Even Fiddles in his 'R' channeled ability can get rooted, but he still will blink to the spot he was intended to blink and then the duration of the root will persist. Wonder, if Fiddles vs. Fiddles the 'Fear' would interrupt his channel, or if the fear would simply persist after the blink of his 'R' channel? Nonetheless, it appears that Fiddles' fear would interrupt Malzahar's channel.

KougaSep 12, 20151 votes

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Thank you for clarifying... the post below yours linked to the Wiki on her abilities. Arguably, the Wiki may contain many inaccuracies. For example, if you read on Malzahar's channeled 'R' (ulty) ability, it says,"Like all channeled abilities, Nether Grasp will be interrupted by hard crowd control like stuns and silences, and will end prematurely if Malzahar attempts another action, e.g. moving or casting other abilities."

The difference is between a "Channel" and a "Cast Time." Almost all abilities have a 'Cast Time', the brief animation that plays leading up to the spell actually happening. None of them are interrupted by CC. Normally these are so short that you don't notice. For example, Ezreal: all of his abilities - Q, W, E & R - all have a cast time. But they're so short you don't really notice how long his Q cast time is. His R, however, has a specifically longer Cast Time of 1 second. Part of this is for counterplay; you "see it coming" and can take steps to avoid it.

Channels, however, are different. They are a state that your Champion goes into after Cast Time but before the spell "goes off". These are specifically to allow other Champions to cancel them via hard CC effects/silences. Fiddlesticks, Caitlyn, Nunu and Katarina all have Channels on their Ultimates.

Lux's Ult also has a longer Cast Time but no Channel.

Fun Fact: This is why Ezreal can use E - Arcane Shift even after he has been hit by CC such as Pantheon's Stun or Blitz' hook and still move away from his original position. Arcane Shift has a longer-than-normal cast time but is not interrupted by CC.

InfinitiGoldSep 12, 20151 votes

Cool. Thank you for clarifying that! And great fun fact!

KougaSep 12, 20151 votes

Happy to help. Let me know if you have any other questions =3=