[GAMEPLAY] Demolish rune sometimes deals little to no extra damage

Loyel Zeft··1 votes·1,086 views

I noticed in a normal game that Demolish dealt little to no bonus damage after waiting for initial 6 ticks, especially if I use gargoyle stoneplate.

Problem: Demolish rune sometimes deals little to no extra damage, also when coupled with gargoyle's stoneplate

To verify, I tested this in the practice tool. Here is what I did:

  1. Picked Sion or Cho'gath (tried both)
  2. added levels to level 11 (if Cho'gath, i got 6 feast stacks)
  3. added 40k gold
  4. bought ninja tabis, warmogs, gaygoyles stoneplate, omens, sunfire cape
  5. tp to turret, charge up the demolish rune with or without friendly/enemy minions (tried both)
  6. attack, and always deal around 150-300 damage total if I use gargoyle's stoneplate, as Sion. as Cho'gath, i dealt around 500-650, varying damage
  7. if i do not use gargoyle's stoneplate, I deal ~~~800~~ varying damage to the turret as Sion. as Cho'gath, I dealt around 1100varying damage, sometimes 150, sometimes >1000.

Conclusion: I think it has to do with hp totals exceeding a certain point, then getting reset when calculating for demolish damage. So 6000 hp might count as 1000 hp, while 5000 hp counts as 5000 hp. Just a guess though.

Cho'gath hit without gargoyles, level 11, first 3 mins of game, tp under turret, no friendly minions pic1

Cho'gath mid turret: hp before hit w/gargoyles (hp lowered because of minion wave) pic2

After hit w/gargoyles pic3

5 Comments

TryMucinex1 votes

I don't think you took damage modification into consideration. Turrets have effects where you will do less damage. You need ally minions to reduce the turret's armor as well.

Loyel Zeft1 votes

I've tried with and without minions, in each case, I deal less damage after activating stoneplate. Regardless of anything else, that shouldn't be happening.

TryMucinex1 votes

Gargoyle's Stoneplate reduces damage by 60% if you use the active. Did you acknowledge this?

Loyel Zeft1 votes

Wow, I forgot to take that into consideration. However, I was inspired by this video: https://youtu.be/4QVWeOET2ek?t=2m2s In this video, Cho'Gath activates stoneplate before hitting the turret for 1800 damage without minions around him. This was in PBE. Was something changed since this video?

TryMucinex1 votes

Looking into the comment, the poster of this video did mention how the damage does not function as usual. My guess is Riot did not make Demolish's damage truly physical despite the regular red damage text in that video.

Something was likely changed.

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