[GAMEPLAY] Akali Bug: Shroud not working as intended, many spells reveal her {BUG}

Professor Aka1i·Dec 2, 2016·3 votes·1,445 views

leblanc E, kled Q, morgana R, thresh Q ... all reveal akali through her shroud.

17 Comments

Maximum MordeDec 2, 20162 votes

That's intended. Those spells have always revealed stealth.

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

LeBlanc's E, Kled's Q, and Thresh's Q have NEVER and they still do NOT reveal stealth. So, no actually it's not intended.

This bug is specific to Akali only. Kled and Thresh only use to reveal her if she happened to be standing at the edge of shroud when she got hooked and got pulled out. LB never under any circumstance use to reveal Akali. The only one he got wrong was Morgana's R, her tether has always from the beginning of time granted true sight.

BladeSteelDec 7, 20161 votes

YES THEY DO LOOK UP YOUR INFORMATION BEFORE YOU POST THINGS

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

Why r u yelling? xd

BladeSteelDec 2, 20161 votes

And they should? They always have and always will. It is intended. Same w/ karma w or any other chain that attaches to her

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

No they shouldn't? Pre 6.21 none of those abilities revealed Akali in her shroud. Karma and Morgana's chain specifically say in their tool tip that their tether grants true sight and thus will reveal all units. LeBlanc, Kled, and Thresh have never revealed units with their chains.

You know this is a bug and not intended because If you walk into a brush while leblanc has her e on you, she will lose vision. If you try to do the same with karma, she will not lose vision. I.E. if leblanc doesn't even reveal non stealthed units who are in brush, then she shouldn't be able to reveal stealthed units either. And she doesn't she only reveals Akali (post 6.21 pre 6.21 it never worked that way). That's called a bug.

BladeSteelDec 7, 20161 votes

guess what. A lot of abilities reveal her. Look at the list that has true vision. Includes thresh q, and kled q AND E the tooltips were UPDATED to show if it was true sight here http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/12/126-pbe-update.html They always gave true vision, and now it has been updated to make it clearer.

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

Lmao they just made that list today. You act as if this information has been around for ages and it hasn't. Two people missing from that list that I really care about are Akali (why doesn't it list that true sight can reveal her) and LeBlanc (i've played this match up 1001 times and I've never been revealed by her chain until just recently). Kled I think I've played against him like once so I was just using info off wiki. But LB I'm 100% sure she never use to reveal.

BladeSteelDec 7, 20161 votes

no that list has been around for a while, it just said "revealed enemy champion hit". They just recently updated the descriptions of those abilities to true siight or not

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

Yep and they just updated it TODAY. They know they messed up because "revealing an enemy champion" and "granting true sight" are two different things. Also that list is incomplete. Where is Akali? Where is Karma's W? Where is Lee Sin's E? If LeBlanc's e really can reveal where is that? Even if she can't reveal with e she should still be on the list because of her stealth.

BladeSteelDec 7, 20161 votes

lee sin e isn't true vision its normal reveal

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

Uhm I know I've been revealed by lee's E b4 while in shroud plus the tool tip says true sight........I think the list is just all the abilities that didn't say true sight in the tool tip but were actually giving true sight.

The ones that already said true sight were excluded. So we can rule out LB's chain granting true sight and conclude that it is in fact a bug for it to be giving vision of stealthed units. But that still doesn't explain why Akali was not included on the list. Unless (seriously doubt it) true sight does not reveal Akali in shroud and therefore it is a bug that she can be revealed at all by anything granting true sight (again, seriously doubt it).

But if your asking me to use the information you have provided me to make a conclusion on whether or not it is a bug that Akali is being revealed by certain abilities then the conclusion is yes it is. Of course I know better than to make such drastic conclusions cause I've been playing Akali for a very long time and I know that she isn't immune to true sight, as the list you have linked would suggest.

So, therefore you can see why me and some other Akali players could have thought that there was a bug (still convinced that Leblanc is a bug) because the old list/tool tips were unclear about exactly what revealed you, and the new list/tool tips (WHICH JUST CAME OUT TODAY) are incomplete.

Dismissed :)

BladeSteelDec 7, 20161 votes

Or I could just assume that you don't know what you're talking about since you've been proven wrong. Especially since we still see "thresh mains" posting about bugs with relic shield not working on him. And yes you have been truly dismissed.

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

Some people don't know thresh isn't classified as melee so I can understand the confusion about relic shield. But this is an entirely different situation.

Akali vs LB is an actual mid lane match up that most Akali players know. The only reason I noticed their might be a bug is because pre 6.21 her e never revealed but post 6.21 she was using her chain to reveal me and get free autos/qs in. AND THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE PATCH 6.21.

Whether or not I was wrong about Kled's Q or Thresh's Q revealing stealth is 100% irrelevant. Wanna know why? Because who tf plays kled nowadays and I'm not paying attention to if I'm getting revealed by a thresh hook or not. And it's hard to know if you get revealed in those situations. THEIR TOOL TIPS DID NOT SAY IT GRANTED TRUE SIGHT. Karma's did, Morg's did. But Kled and Thresh did not so that combined with little experience of playing vs them led me to believe that they didn't reveal stealth. (I would've know this if I've played vs an Akali with a thresh on my team but i never have so i always assumed i was still stealthed when i got hooked).

So either way their is a bug, whether it's a bug in clarity of context or actual functionality doesn't make much difference. If LeBlanc's E reveals units now they better document that shit or if it's not supposed to they better fix it asap cause it makes laning vs her harder than what it already was (for akali only).

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

I have also been revealed by fizz ult, naut ult, and fiddlesticks drain. >:(

BladeSteelDec 7, 20161 votes

once again look at the list of current abilites that give true vision. in fact, I'll put it here for you. Champions List: Caitlyn - W/R Fiddlesticks - W Fizz - R Kha'Zix - R (can be revealed by) Kled - Q/E Lee Sin - Q Lulu - E Morgana - R Nidalee - W Rengar - R Shaco - Q (can be revealed by) Talon - R ( can be revealed by) Teemo - Passive (can be revealed by) Thresh - Q Twisted Fate - R Vayne - R (can be revealed by) Vi - R Zyra - W Wukong - W (can be revealed by) Other Snowball (ARAM) Arcane Sweeper Scryer's Bloom

Shen is SO HOTDec 7, 20161 votes

Lmao I honestly never knew Fiddlesticks and fizz could reveal wtf that's op. Explain naut tho.