[GAMEPLAY] Inconsistent dmg on shaco's Q with IE

Caenorst·1/3/2020, 10:09:37 PM·2 votes·3,041 views

Shaco's Q on the back of an enemy is supposed to automatically crit at 130% and 155% with IE. Although it seems that there is a bug because the dmg can vary between two values (178 to 253, with just IE and lvl 2).

Here is how I checked for the issue

  1. Go on training mode
  2. Buy IE, and put a skill point on your Q
  3. Try multiple times to backstab with Q on a dummy target

BONUS: You will see that even normal crit (without Q) on the back can do more dmg, which is another mystery to me as 130% (Q without the IE bonus) should still be more than 125% (just normal crit with IE)

2 Comments

wolvius1/3/2020, 10:58:54 PM1 votes

My guess is that the backstab isn't guaranteeing the critical strike like it should.

Q description

BACKSTAB: Guarantees the basic attack to Critical strike strike for (30% + Infinity Edge item 25%) bonus physical damage.

Or considering riot spaghetti code the backstab passive and bonus damage from q have a separate crit chance and only his base damage is guaranteed to crit or something.

mister swift1/6/2020, 7:59:33 PM1 votes

That's because you rolled a crit on that attack, the damage bonus from shaco q is way less then a normal crit (30% vs 100%). If you buy just IE and 3 cloaks of agility you will get the 253 every hit. It does this because a normal crits is much better so forcing a worst crit on shaco Q would just be a nerf to crit shaco.