Strange snowball and dash animations [gameplay?]

Daddy Issuez··44 votes·21,309 views

Playing some arams and there's a bug that's impacting gameplay imho. When someone dashes onto you (maos t advance for example) their character teleports backwards/briefly vanishes before dashing to you. It is happening when people snowball as well - members of both teams have experienced it (across multiple games) on various heroes. It messes with timing on your response because it makes the dash seem instantaneous and you often lose vision of them.

LATER EDIT: I've also experienced two games where yas has been ulting people who use thresh lantern. So there's that

so there's that

52 Comments

RiotRiot Stephiroth8 votes

Hey all!

Sorry, had to get my forum account sorted out, so I haven't commented on these yet :(

Unfortunately this issue is not all dashes, so we are currently trying to pinpoint why this issue is occurring on some dashes and not others, to help us figure out a fix.

Thank you for your patience! As an avid ARAM player, this bug REALLLY sucks :( but I promise we are looking into it and we will try to fix it ASAP!

Fisherman Fizz1 votes

I don't know if it's necessarily the correct pattern, but I noticed that most of the dashes that were doing it were homing dashes like the 2nd cast of snowball, 2nd lee sin q, 2nd cast of thresh hook, etc.

RiotRiot Stephiroth1 votes

Oh, I didn't get it on Thresh Q2, but I'll try that one again!

Medical Crab1 votes

Just experienced this bug as well. The two champions that were displaying this bug were Warwick (casting his Q or R) and Talon (casting his Q).

As mentioned by Fisherman Fizz, these are all TARGETED dashes in specific, so that's probably why some champions are affected and others aren't.

Bhagswag1 votes

yes I can confirm it's dashes that lock-on. Warwick's Q, not ult, for example.

Papa Flash1 votes

It also happens with Quinn dash. Pretty sure it is all targeted dashes doing it.

Chewy Choo1 votes

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Hey all!

Sorry, had to get my forum account sorted out, so I haven't commented on these yet :(

Unfortunately this issue is not all dashes, so we are currently trying to pinpoint why this issue is occurring on some dashes and not others, to help us figure out a fix.

Thank you for your patience! As an avid ARAM player, this bug REALLLY sucks :( but I promise we are looking into it and we will try to fix it ASAP!

Hey, while this is not related to the snowball bug I've been seeing short disconnects frequently happening in ARAM. For 1-2 seconds everyone in the game will lose control of their characters. Don't know what causes it or if its just related to ARAM though

Dracozx1 votes

I saw exactly the same issue! And Lee's Q also looked the same

Alpaca771 votes

exactly what I saw yesterday and this morning

NocaNoha5 votes

Had the same 2 last games, I think it was not like that this morning? O.o And yes, they kinda dash backward and then disappear only to appear just in front of you. Was pretty strange to see urgot all of sudden in front of me even though I could have expected it.. q.q

Bhagswag4 votes

Please fix this. it's a bigger distraction than you think. Completely messes up anyone against talon, kayn, malphite, etc.

PeeWee NA3 votes

i experienced the same this, with God Fist Lee Sin when he would follow through on his Q

swashi3 votes

had this happen to me just now. Graves would dash in but the animation wouldn't register so he'd be in, shot you with huge stacks of dark harvest, and then dash out. Not fun. Probably won't play ARAM till it's fixed.

Packun Flower3 votes

Yes, all Dashes and Snowballs are bugged right now. Basically what happening is the animation is playing backwards for Dashes so it looks like they are dashing into the fog of war but when the animation is over they teleport right in front of you.

We'll need a red to clarify if this is being looked into becuase its pretty akward to play agasint

ElectricalAmmo3 votes

What a miserable bug lol. I usually play at least 5 to 6 ARAM games a day (it's the only mode I play these days, so usually play more than that), but I'm just not playing til it's fixed.

Last I checked there wasn't a red warning for this bug, but there needs to be. It's way more game-impacting than you'd think from reading about it.

Also can confirm that if you go back and watch a replay, the bug doesn't appear and all dashes look normal. While playing live, it seems to be any targeted dash that is affected (e.g. Fiora Q doesn't do it, but Warwick Q does)

RiotRiot Stephiroth1 votes

Thanks for confirming that stuff with replays!

Yeah, this issue is quite odd because it only manifests on the enemy's client, which implies that it may be related to packets getting sent/vision/etc. It only occurring on Howling Abyss so far makes it extremely difficult to track down :(

Thank you for your help! We are working on it T_T

2hard2k1ll3 votes

Does those BUG abuser get a warning or something when the Bug is fixed cause most of them do it intentionally jsut to destroy the gameplay

would be really happy if they have to take the consequences.

and why jsut dont disable ARAM until u have fixed the BUG

Tomoe Gozen2 votes

I lost an ARAM game due to this. Our team was 3 carries and 2 AP champs so whenever the enemy team used Snowballs or a dashed to us, we couldn't even tell who was coming until we were eating damage, face first. Enemy Wukong was literally getting quadras every time a snowball "teamfight" broke out thanks to us not knowing who's going to be targeted first.

And we couldn't use the same tactic because hey, as ranged carries and 2 APs, who wants to go into their team? I don't really care that i lost an ARAM game, it's just that this bug was so disruptive that the chances of our victory were basically zero. Since dashes are also affected as well (enemy Camille in my game's case), i don't know if this is SR or TT related issue as well.

Mysticman892 votes

Oh so that's what that was.

I just figured I'd stayed up too late or had too much to drink and it was time for me to sleep. Glad it's actually a thing and not me losing it, but hopefully it's fixed asap.

Who Was I Again2 votes

I wouldnt be surprised if it was some sorta spaghetti code issue regarding prep for Akalis new E somehow being coded improperly, and simply applying said code to the rest of he dashes lmao

Jaspers1 votes

I didn't see this thread and created one as well. Sorry. Experienced the same thing.

xXDeathBlade2261 votes

The odd thing about this bug from the multiple times I had it in my games I only show up when you are playing the game it doesn't show up if you rewatch the game after downloading it.

Hellioning1 votes

Yep. Same here.

eMDee eXDee1 votes

yup same, multiple games...

Modl Ryden l1 votes

I've experienced the same thing.

What happens is that the person with mark/dash will mark their target if it lands (like normal) but when they decide to recast it for the dash, it ends up having their champion model dash to their side (almost as if dashing to their fountain) then blinking to their marked target.

Brentonamore1 votes

Yeah snowball literally looks like a glitch now. The champion disappears and then reappears for a split second then they appear right on top of you. Just insane. Hope its a bug not an intended change. Also, bug ive experienced many times when using snowball is it will launch off in the direction your champion is facing and not where your mouse is hovered.

Mossy Lungs1 votes

Yup just experienced this with Quinn. Was definitely ruining the game. Snowball was basically a free spooky surprise!

Darksun Dragoon1 votes

I was having this bug prepatch versus a Talon. Any time he would Q or jump a wall, he would vanish or look like he was jumping in the opposite direction, then teleport directly next to some one.

Naut lmpressed1 votes

Bumped for visibility. Am I the only one that wants a blog/red post explaining what the heck they changed to make this happen? I feel like it would be worth a chuckle. Fix muh ARAM!

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

SugeMinPikk1 votes

It's especially cancerous when people second cast the snowball from offscreen. They literally blink to you with no warning..

Kiniro Eulee1 votes

Yeah I lost a few games because of this bug, it's irritating. I'm gonna hook up my super nintendo and play that till it's fixed.

EvLoFo1 votes

Ditto. Had an ARAM game last night as Corki where the enemy Wukong and Kayn were blowing me up out of nowhere with dashes and snowballs. Would've been a loss without a godly Ornn on my team.

Alpaca771 votes

I thought I was seeing things but no these really happened in aram yesterday where champs vanishes like shadows or flies actually the opposite direction before appearing in front of the targeted champ.

AetherArising1 votes

New akali’s E does the same on the pbe

bunp for visibility

Kamikaaskopp1 votes

Bump

OutereachDock1 votes

Noticed same issue on Gragas E as well.

RiotRiot Stephiroth1 votes

This one is surprising! I'll check this out. We thought it's only unit targeted dashes but it may not be. :)

Thanks for this!

BadgerDrool1 votes

No footage to share. However, I wanted to note that I usually see a partial second of the enemy model teleporting to a totally random location before they suddenly appear where they are supposed to be. Often in a different direction entirely. That's a good bit different then disappearing entirely. Maybe it's an issue with location data for display getting scrambled during dashes? Do you have any tools to log that information you can try?

Urgot R may be causing it as well (even on other maps). They often port to max distance for his R before getting chained it. Makes me feel like someone is always flashing away when I R to drag.

DeathBurst1 votes

Hey, I know this is months old but since no one else replied: for Urgot R this is not a visual bug. If you get killed just when you start reeling your R, the enemy will actually get released that far away. I don't know if that's what was intended, but it's not just the visual, they are actually blinked to that location.

Pantabular1 votes

Warwick Q/Riven Dash/Lee sin dash/ snowballs. Interestingly, the farther you are away, the longer it takes for you to show up. Its like warwick is frickin leblanc :( Kinda ruining aram right now.

JohnnyFingers1 votes

ARAM buggy since update, still is

Noies1 votes

very noticeable in aram, but I've also seen it inconsistently on summoner's rift. I think.

RiotRiot Stephiroth1 votes

If you have any VODs of this it would be incredibly useful!

noefsgivenkay1 votes

I thought it was because I was playing on my ancient laptop, league is one of the few games i can still run on it fine. Sooooo apparently it's the game that's bugged? I've been seeing the invis teleport snowball and backward dash almost 100% of the time atm, half the time i don't even know what's hitting me and i only have about 100ms playing from where I am atm. I didn't have another computer to test the snowball dash bug so I assumed it was just my laptop.... FIX THIS FASTER PLEASE :(

Lyoko121 votes

Kalista's ult is also affected.

Pantabular1 votes

It would be good to note that you don't appear to exhibity the issue, just the enemy sees it

Alroiv1 votes

filled out a bug report for this, should have probably searched it first :S

Helliebabe1 votes

This bug is really hard to play with ;-;

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