Invisible Mundo cleavers

Moderately Cool·Mar 23, 2015·6 votes·4,364 views

Just played a normal game on summoner's rift and every cleaver that Dr. Mundo threw was invisible and therefore impossible to dodge. Rito plz fix.

21 Comments

RiotRiot GalettaMar 23, 20158 votes

Yo Moderately Cool!

First off thanks for the report! We're aware of the various invisible Nidalee Spears, Mundo cleavers, and the like. Unfortunately we don't have a solid repro as of yet, but we are working hard to find the root cause. We have a couple of possible causes but these have yet to verified. item 3070

EyrgosMar 23, 20155 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Galetta,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=ioRukE5W,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-03-23T20:23:00.406+0000)

Yo Moderately Cool!

First off thanks for the report! We're aware of the various invisible Nidalee Spears, Mundo cleavers, and the like. Unfortunately we don't have a solid repro as of yet, but we are working hard to find the root cause. We have a couple of possible causes but these have yet to verified.

Disable her now & put out a PSA.

It's so frequent, it's inappropriate to allow her to cost so many games, especially in Ranked.

How you guys have handled this is just wrong, she's cost so many ranked matches for people, it's absurd you let this continue.

RiotRiot GalettaMar 23, 20158 votes

So perception of the frequency of the issue vs actual affected games is actually very different. If this was an issue that affected every Nidalee game or even 25% of games, then yes we would disable her.

EyrgosMar 23, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Galetta,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=ioRukE5W,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-23T21:39:32.519+0000)

So perception of the frequency of the issue vs actual affected games is actually very different. If this was an issue that affected every Nidalee game or even 25% of games, then yes we would disable her.

Understandable but you shouldn't also look at widespread frequency.

What about individual account frequency?

For some players, this' happening nigh-consistently & they're getting utterly screwed on any & all matches with her in them (or a huge advantage).

Not only that, 25% is still often enough to merit disabling IMO, that's a gross impact on Ranked play especially.

Also just realized how snide your remark was to me; the way your reply is written, it presumes I don't know the difference.

XimleeMar 24, 20151 votes

That's exactly what he said. If it was 25% of the time, they'd have her disabled.

EyrgosMar 24, 20151 votes

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That's exactly what he said. If it was 25% of the time, they'd have her disabled.

No, contextually & comprehensively, he was speaking about an average percentile between all accounts.

For some players, myself included, it consistently occurs in over 50% of Nidalee matches.

Not at all what he said.

LuciferMar 24, 20152 votes

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So perception of the frequency of the issue vs actual affected games is actually very different. If this was an issue that affected every Nidalee game or even 25% of games, then yes we would disable her.

The frequency goes way up if you know how to reproduce it easily - there's tricks to getting your spears to have a higher likelihood of being invisible. Why don't you just fix the issue? It's been a problem for a long time.

IronChefBoyardeeMar 24, 20156 votes

So why don't you tell Riot what those tricks are (and in doing so, help get the bug fixed) by sending in a support ticket instead of whining and adding nothing to the conversation here?

LuciferMar 24, 20151 votes

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So why don't you tell Riot what those tricks are (and in doing so, help get the bug fixed) by sending in a support ticket instead of whining and adding nothing to the conversation here?

Why do you assume I (and others) haven't? They just obviously haven't fixed them. Ezreal ult still has the same problem, although much less frequent than nidalee's spears.

SammystormMar 24, 20152 votes

We assume you haven't because of posts like this.

Urdnot EntarMar 25, 20152 votes

{quoted} Why don't you just fix the issue? It's been a problem for a long time.

The question about so many bugs, for which Riot never has a satisfactory answer...

RiotRiot GalettaMar 25, 20153 votes

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The frequency goes way up if you know how to reproduce it easily - there's tricks to getting your spears to have a higher likelihood of being invisible. Why don't you just fix the issue? It's been a problem for a long time.

So what are these tricks? If you have a solid repro it would help us out greatly!

EyrgosMar 25, 20151 votes

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So what are these tricks? If you have a solid repro it would help us out greatly!

What of individuals' frequency? What of it consistently occurring in a ranked match, screwing your odds?

LuciferMar 25, 20152 votes

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So what are these tricks? If you have a solid repro it would help us out greatly!

One of the big ones is if you angle it while shooting from a bush / fog of war. I don't think there's a 100% way to reproduce it though, just ways to up the likelihood of it occurring. Ezreal's is much less common - not sure why.

FlashnFuseMar 25, 20151 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/4E8YMd42-this-is-how-i-successfully-reproduced-the-nidalee-spear-bug-twice-in-a-row-with-video

MundoMay 6, 20151 votes

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Yo Moderately Cool!

First off thanks for the report! We're aware of the various invisible Nidalee Spears, Mundo cleavers, and the like. Unfortunately we don't have a solid repro as of yet, but we are working hard to find the root cause. We have a couple of possible causes but these have yet to verified.

Couple of things Im sure you know though: 1- when glitch happens the player still sees the cleaver while enemy team doesnt. 2- happens with most if not all of mundos skins 3- hardly ever happens and i play him alot. Maybe 1/150 games 4- glitch started happening some were after either Mundos cleaver width got nerfed or where the sideways cleaver got patched. [When throwing into a bush] so might be something to do with that but Im not 100% sure.

ActuallyArrowMar 24, 20152 votes

Your imagination is not strong enough to see them, young one. To see them, one must be at peace with their mind.

EyrgosMar 24, 20151 votes

Riot Galetta, will you be returning?

Lunar CalamityMar 24, 20151 votes

omg i didn't know that was a thing i thought DrMundo was just amazing, like damn idk what even hit me (he hit every single one and then proceeded to laugh Y^Y)