5.22 Hunter's Talisman with Certain Abilities

Making this bug report again because it was not addressed with the push of 5.22

Certain champions abilities are not interacting properly with the HP drain of Hunter's Talisman. This is a significant nerf to jungle sustain of and a minor nerf to .

If this is not a bug, please respond and let me know. Otherwise I will continue to make this thread each patch it is not fixed.

Description: Hunter's Talisman does not properly trigger when jungle monsters are damaged by certain champion abilities.

Frequency: 100% of the time

Effect on Gameplay: Champions relying on the affected abilities to trigger and maintain the Hunter's Talisman HP drain have significantly less HP while clearing.

Expected Behavior: After being damaged by the affected abilities, the monsters would have their health drained by the Talisman and would have the purple fire visual effect to indicate this.

Actual Behavior: After the third area of effect swing, enemies do not receive the purple fire visual effect and their health is not drained. Because of the description for the Hunter's Talisman stating that any damage on a monster will trigger the health drain effect, it is expected that the damage caused by these abilities would cause it to trigger, which leads me to believe this is a bug. Further, Nocturne's recommended starting item is the Hunter's Talisman, which suggests that it was expected his AoE swings would trigger this ability to help him sustain.

To Reproduce: Begin attacking a jungle camp with more than one monster as an affected champion without using any abilities. Monitor the health of one of the secondary monsters after beginning to attack. Use one of the affected abilities and wait for it to cause damage to the monster. The monster's health will lower based on the damage from the ability but will not continue to tick down for the Hunter's Talisman passive afterward.

The following champions' abilities are affected by this bug: Passive Bleed Passive AoE attack Passive burn damage Turret basic attacks (lasers properly trigger it) Titan's Wrath damage Passive AoE attack Queen's Wrath AoE damage Jack in the Box Ricochet secondary targets Toxic Shot poison damage Basic attacks from any ghoul

In order to try and help pinpoint the source of the bug, I have listed all affected abilities that I could find above. Other similar or suspect abilities that I tested that are functioning properly are listed below.

The following champions' abilities interact in the proper manner with Hunter's Talisman: Trample damage Molten Shield damage Passive burn Vorpal Spikes Seastone Trident passive damage Bushwhack Defensive Ball Curl damage Flamespitter Flail of the Northern Winds Poison Trail Deadly Venom Phoenix Stance activation Noxian Corrosive Charge Decoy Plant basic attacks (all)