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Jax Counter-Strike not dodging Garen Decisive Strike

Helroden··2 votes·4,399 views

I just played through a ranked game in which I was Jax vs Garen and thought that Counter-Strike would allow me to dodge the enemy Garens Decisive Strike. The first few times I tried to counter it, I ended up getting hit for the full damage and being silenced. At first I just thought maybe I had missed the activate on it. So I began trying to activate it earlier and earlier trying to get my timing down before realizing that it wasn't me, it was the ability. It wasn't just once, or one in five times, but every single time I used it the full effect of Decisive strike went through to the extent that I could not reactivate counter-strike to stun him because I was silenced. As far as what I have read people have confirmed that Jax should be able to dodge the strike, if I am wrong then this discussion can obviously be disregarded, but until I have somebody else I can fully test it with I don't know if this is an every game problem or if I just somehow went into the game with a one time glitch.

14 Comments

RiotRiot Exgeniar5 votes

Yeab, that's how it works. There are many auto-attack empowering spells that allows the attack to ignore dodge.

Eyrgos1 votes

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Yeab, that's how it works. There are many auto-attack empowering spells that allows the attack to ignore dodge.

Which I think should be changed.

Ex. Nasus' Q, "Siphoning Strike," auto-attack empowering spell.

Makes no sense, shouldn't exist; it eradicates the counter-play.

Unless you wanna argue it's 'counter-counter-play, which has merit... however, as I've stated elsewhere in this thread: the logic isn't there for this mechanic, it should be revised.

Eyrgos1 votes

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Yeab, that's how it works. There are many auto-attack empowering spells that allows the attack to ignore dodge.

Is this too, 'working as intended,' then?

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/08iUwRKR-so-i-was-just-playing-as-quinn

Please tell me "no" & that you guys will seek a fix.

someotherone3 votes

Wait, so it'll ignore dodge and not blind? When I play Garen vs Teemo I'll get the silence from my Q, but not the damage. That seems strange to me.

RiotRiot Exgeniar3 votes

As far as I know, Dodge and Blinds function differently within the game engine.

Eyrgos1 votes

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As far as I know, Dodge and Blinds function differently within the game engine.

My points still stand about the logic.

Also, if they function differently, this should be looked at (because they shouldn't).

Unless you want Blind to be RNG-based but I don't think anyone wants that, player or Rioter.

Recnik3 votes

It's the same thing with blinds and Garen Q/Nasus Q. Teemo and Quinn's blind will only mitigate the basic attack damage, you'll still be hit by the ability. RIP Teemos everywhere.

Eyrgos2 votes

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It's the same thing with blinds and Garen Q/Nasus Q. Teemo and Quinn's blind will only mitigate the basic attack damage, you'll still be hit by the ability. RIP Teemos everywhere.

Word which shouldn't be the case.

Logically, it makes zero sense.

A magically-imbued physical strike is still a physical strike.

If a unit avoids the strike because they blinded the target or legit dodges the strike so it misses, it should... y'know, legitimate miss.

I don't think the magic also applies a mystical heat-seeking, homing-property to the melee weapon.

Aarekk1 votes

The attack itself missed, the magic surrounding the weapon hits the enemy.

Eyrgos1 votes

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The attack itself missed, the magic surrounding the weapon hits the enemy.

Just as much of an issue. If the magic is imbuing the weapon & the weapon misses, the magic should also miss.

Aarekk1 votes

Imagine it being a near miss. Not the opposite direction. A really hot piece of metal near, but not touching, you will still radiate heat and could still burn you.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Jax

Jax Counter-Strike only blocks auto attacks and mitigates area of effect spells. Garen's Decisive Strike is a spell, so it is supposed to be getting through.

Cheers!

Eyrgos1 votes

{quoted}

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Jax

Jax Counter-Strike only blocks auto attacks and mitigates area of effect spells. Garen's Decisive Strike is a spell, so it is supposed to be getting through.

Cheers!

ACTIVE: Garen breaks free from all slows affecting him and gains 35% movement speed for a few seconds. Additionally, his next basic attack within 4.5 seconds will deal additional physical damage and will silence his target.

It's an empowered auto, Jax's Counter-Strike blocks auto's.

The logic doesn't follow, this should be changed.

Helroden1 votes

Alright, thanks a lot! I always just thought it would fully block, I don't know why I was always under that impression. That's nice to know, kinda important to know too.

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