[GAMEPLAY] Phantom Dancer interaction with pass-through passives

HOW DO I POPPY·Apr 19, 2017·2 votes·587 views

i can't think of any champion that isn't kennen or nocturne to test this, but when you buy phantom dancer on either of them they completely lose their minion pass-through (kennen's E is supposed to make him walk through minions, same as nocturne q)

to reproduce: 1- play kennen or nocturne 2- buy phantom dancer 3- press E as kennen or Q as nocturne and try to walk through minions

i can't think of any way to make this longer, i very much hope this helps!

5 Comments

JulanusApr 19, 20172 votes

Since Nocturne's free this week, I went ahead and tested his Q out with the Practice Tool.

I found that Nocturne's Q does not seem to allow him to move through minions when he has a Phantom Dancer.

However, I don't play him, and the unit movement felt kinda clunky with or without the Phantom Dancer.

Now, I do play Janna every so often. Her W has a Passive effect that allows her to move through units, so long as it's not on cooldown.

Janna's W seems to be working normally, though, both with and without a Phantom Dancer.

So, my theory is Phantom Dancer overrides activated champion abilities that ignore unit collision. Passive abilities don't seem to be affected, however.

Which means, it's likely a bug.

HOW DO I POPPYApr 19, 20171 votes

thanks for the useful input, i really hope this gets fixed

DarkRitualApr 20, 20171 votes

It might be a toggle of some sort, but would still be odd for Janna to not be affected. Have you tried it on Janna after using Zephyr (and losing the ghost ability)?

JulanusApr 20, 20172 votes

Yep, it is a bit odd. Also yes, I tested both while her W's passive was working, and again after casting it on a minion, both before and after purchasing a Phantom Dancer.

She could phase through minions as long as Zephyr's Passive effect was active. As soon as I used it and put it on cooldown, she was no longer able to walk through any minions.

I'm gonna guess it being a Passive effect that's "always" active causes it to take priority over Phantom Dancer or something like that. However, I don't particularly know for sure.