Sion Ults the Wrong Way

DukeTorus·Apr 21, 2015·3 votes·1,085 views

Last night I was playing a game with Sion in the top lane. I was pressuring Garen really hard, and so the enemy jungler and support came up to help him a few times. I only pushed hard when my ult was up so I could have some kind of escape ready.

When I tried to use my ult to escape, it sent me in the wrong direction--into the enemy--resulting in my death. This has happened to me 8-10 times while playing Sion, sometimes more than once in a game. I've played somewhere between 70 and 100 games with him, so not all 8-10 times can be attributed to n00b Sion Syndrome or mouse placement accidents.

Has anyone else ever had this problem?

9 Comments

Vaati006Apr 24, 20152 votes

I think I might know what's causing this, actually! It all comes down to camera control and what happens when you ult if your camera is not centered on Sion, AND your mouse is in one of the corners of the screen.

Think about it: the way Sion's camera is locked on himself while charging is unlike any other mechanic in the game. I wouldn't be at all surprised if, when you press R, sometimes he begins ulting to where your cursor is, then your camera is snapped to him; while other times, your camera is snapped to him, moving your cursor relative to Sion's position, and THEN his ult picks its direction based on where your cursor is.

Note: this is just an untested hypothesis I just came up with. I'll try to test it at some point later today, maybe post a video if I can reproduce the issue.

DukeTorusApr 24, 20151 votes

This could have something to do with it. I wonder what the timings are as far as when the ult direction is picked and when the snapping occurs--if my screen snaps and then the direction is picked, my cursor could be in a completely wrong place. I do play with an unlocked screen, too, so this is pretty plausible. Time for a custom game to try and trigger it incorrectly on purpose.

keefm4sterApr 21, 20151 votes

I know exactly what you are talking about. If Sion ults directly adjacent to any minion, friendly or otherwise, there is a chance that his ult will be redirected into a random direction, similarly to when 'creep block' causes a champ's move path to go haywire. I created a video in a custom game and posted it here a few times hoping it would get some recognition, but no luck so far. Hopefully someone with the power to fix this will see this post, cause it's made me die or miss kills more times than I can count.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k38SR_fg3yE

keefm4sterApr 21, 20151 votes

also the video freezes for a couple seconds at about 0:11 but it was just my recording software being dumb. pay it no mind

Theseus85Apr 22, 20151 votes

I main sion and don't have this issue, it always goes where ever the mouse is located when you push r.

DukeTorusApr 24, 20151 votes

Do you have a hot machine + good Internet connection? If it's not an in-game bug, I would blame my connection to Riot servers for missing the packet that says I'm ulting the right direction...

Watiska68Dec 13, 20151 votes

Guys, i have the problem too... i dont lock the camera, i navigate with mine left hand on the Arrow buttons (i kknow im a noob player) with right hand on mouse, clicking (selecting with left clik ) on ultys of sion... like i before sayed , i have problem with the firts ulty that hammer and the running ulty...

i dont play with short keys, but i tryd it with short keys than i can direct sion perfect... but i CANT play with shortkeys because i use my left hand on the arrows buttons on the keyboard..

i report riot, they didnt take actions, becaues 1% of sion players play like me the other plyers play with shortkeys... so riot dont wanne wayst time for solving this issue...

maybe im thinking to farr

DukeTorusApr 24, 20151 votes

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I was ulting to get away, and I was standing in the middle of my minion wave, so I got sent in a random direction. My enemies were close enough to me I didn't even see which way I ended up going because I instantly smacked into them. Escape gone, I died.

Watiska68Dec 13, 20151 votes

yes yes yes, i have this issue too... before it was ok with sion, after a update , now i have problems with sions directions, on the first ulty and the last ulty (dont know the names) i report this already to riot, they didnt take any actions...

i think its related because i play with mouse, so give my ultys direction with the mouse, but he alwaus go wrong... actually he follows the first nearby attack range Always..

and that is not funny, because sometimes i went to escape..

thats also the reason that i stop playing sion :(((