[Gameplay] Adaptive Force is... behaving oddly and not working as expected on Jhin.

Zanotam·1/18/2018, 2:13:17 AM·1 votes·1,011 views

So, first, I'm just going to put it out there that it's ridiculous that a hextech gunblade, a bf sword, and a doran's ring will give ap adaptive force and not ad adaptive force. Second, I've discovered a very weird side case - Jhin who builds AS/Crit will not have the additional AD from those items via his passive counted towards which type he gets either. Specifically, 65ap > 120 ad for force calculations which seems very questionable, especially when I want ad and not ap from my adaptive force sources, and it's clear I'm building ad at that point since there is no reason to have a freakin' greater than 2:1 ratio of ad to ap be read as 'building ap'. Further clarifying that there are two separate problems here (adaptive force favors ap waaay too much or is possibly just too slow to update, I dunno), if I were to build Zeal after a Gunblade the extra ad I was getting from the Zeal wouldn't be counted AT ALL for the adaptive force calculations and so despite the fact I"m clearly building towards an AD build I will get AP from my adaptive force (just building crit should be enough to make the system realize I'm an ad champ who benefits more form ad!

Like, I know this is really minor, but with Jhin in such a rough state I've been playing him mid and Doran's Ring start is core there, but it's really hard for me to really properly test various builds I'm trying with hextech gunblade which give much needed sustain while also providing sustain on all his damage sources and trading 10% cdr and a small defensive bleed for 40 ap which can be 60 damage or more from just flower+grenade. Now, I'm not saying it's god tier or anything, but it actually feels surprisingly smooth to get with a strong build path and everything and yet when it's done my freaking 80 ad is outweighed by a mere 55 ap for adaptive force calculations making a zeal right after less viable as I'll be getting bonus ap and not bonus ad from my adaptive force because not only will an entire BF sword of extra AD not be enough to change the ap back to ad, but items like zeal won't work because they don't say they provide bonus ad even though, from the perspective of Jhin, they're a giant ad stick! Oh, and it would be great if, around the time the general adaptive force 'bug' and jhin specific adaptive force bug (sorry, but if I'm getting ad from it I expect it to count!) that Jhin could be given at least one more AP ratio. Like a 10% ap ratio on Jhin's ult would be amazing but even a 5% on ult or a 40% ratio on his w to round to give him a flat 200% total along with maybe a buff to his E (which many people will literally not take until like.... level 13 I think it is) and possibly ult or W would be great!

3 Comments

kattzkitti1/18/2018, 2:14:49 AM1 votes

It isn't based on total AD, it's based on bonus AD.