100% Crit Jinx Doesn't Always Crit

BootyShank·May 10, 2016·177 votes·10,519 views

UPDATE: So I did some more testing, and found that this bug mostly happens against JUNGLE MONSTERS. However when trying to recreated this bug against minions I found that the splash damage the minions took was just the normal auto attack red, not the crit orange, but will still do the damage that crit in fishbones would normally do. So maybe this has to do with the fact that Fishbones is actually a spell. There is a similar bug with Yi and Garen who both have abilities that can crit. This could be related but I cannot confirm this.

This is actually a very stramge bug. Get 100% crit, switch between Fishbones and Pow Pow, then auto attack. You wont critically strike. Here is a video. As you can see I have 100% critical strike chance and i do not crit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2qKyHoJDh8 FIX IT. SOMEONE HELP.

59 Comments

PDE5 InhibMay 10, 201686 votes

With how weak ADC's are right now

lol, wut

WimbledofyMay 10, 20166 votes

he just not playing the op adc's like sivir.

yay nibbersMay 11, 201613 votes

Not like Jinx is 6th for winrate in plat+ at a 52% average http://i.imgur.com/uZY0jCB.png

WimbledofyMay 11, 20165 votes

exactly, jinx sucks only 52% winrate. XD

KarKzzMay 11, 20163 votes

Up to twice the playerbase average game played. It means that the average jinx player will know the champion more than the average (let's say) twitch player. So her winrate would be lower if she had the same amounth of playerbase average game played as twitch.

Winrate is not the only thing you have to look a bit more. You should compare it with popularity , and playerbase average game played.

MarshbouyMay 10, 20164 votes

certain ADCs are total trash to play against others and the prominence of assassins is annoying

ValyrianBladeMay 10, 201646 votes

Who TF downvoted this... that's a serious bug.

It's even worse than you make it sound. It's not "Jinx doesn't crit all the time with 100% crit", it's actually "Jinx NEVER crits after switching between fishbones and minigun". So even with just IE you're wasting loads of damage switching between the two due to the lost chance to land a crit....

yay nibbersMay 11, 201629 votes

People probably downvoting because of the totally false "ADCs are weak" sentiment...

That said, this bug does indeed need to be looked at. As with other champs who are suffering from crit bugs.

tooomineMay 12, 20161 votes

adcs are pretty weak compared to tanks, man. tanks rule the rift right now.

yay nibbersMay 12, 20161 votes

To be fair, tanks are supposed to be big, beefy, and strong (as the name suggests). ADCs are still important and are all doing just fine at that, they're siege machines and, if left alone, kill tanks and everyone appropriately. The game sorta revolves around them really. Keep the ADC safe, try to make life hard for the enemy ADC, ADCs even have a role dedicated to holding their hand through the lane phase. All to make sure they're good to take down the towers quick when the time comes. Not to say any of that is a bad thing, having well define roles is good for a team game. There's really only a small number of ADCs that actually could use some help. Beyond that they're doing just fine, especially Jinx.

PrimadonnaMay 11, 201625 votes

You're done with AD Carry? Because of how WEAK it is??????????????????????

NB moneyMay 11, 20164 votes

really depends on which adc he is talking about, but yeah very few are weak and its just unlucky of me to only like the vayne and kalista.. vayne is hard af and kal is just useless after her nerf.

ImmortalBloodCYMay 11, 20166 votes

I will be the odd one out.

As a support i make sure my ADC is fed as hell and stick close to them in order to keep them alive while we decimate the enemy team.

The ADCs are like my guns while i am the shield, I cant do both roles at the same time so i let someone else be the Guns.

They are weak true but feed them and keep them alive.

Now as for this bug I noticed it on Garen's Q.

yay nibbersMay 12, 20161 votes

The thing is, they're dependent on the rest of the team to do particularly well. If the rest of the team keeps them safe they kill everything. They're weak on their own by design.

TacoTheKittenMay 11, 20162 votes

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NB moneyMay 11, 20161 votes

I loooove kalista, but her laning phase is soooo hard i legit stooped playing her. i find vayne to be a easier adc then kal.

TacoTheKittenMay 11, 20161 votes

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NB moneyMay 12, 20161 votes

i hate being support dependent, it just drives me crazy! idk y really but depending on my supports normally goes down hill. thats why i like vayne i can just tell them to afk and let me farm and im good ta go

ImmortalBloodCYMay 12, 20161 votes

Then dont play bot if you hate being support dependent because all ADC's depend on their supports to do well at bot lane.

tooomineMay 12, 20163 votes

ADC is weak. Tanks are strong. assassins are more strong. it is no longer an ADC meta, like it was in patch 6.1. so yes, adc is weak now.

DorkunedAurasMay 10, 20168 votes

The same thing seems to be happening with Yi's Passive double strike, and I'm pretty sure I saw this for one other champ, not sure which.

RoodToobMay 10, 20167 votes

If yi has it, Lucian might as well with his passive

DorkunedAurasMay 10, 20161 votes

very well might

Jesus is SaviorMay 11, 20161 votes

{quoted}

The same thing seems to be happening with Yi's Passive double strike, and I'm pretty sure I saw this for one other champ, not sure which.

I can confirm this. I can also confirm I noticed it like a year ago, but didn't know how to properly report it at the time (looking at numbers on the screen is hard).

LittleBlastMay 11, 20168 votes

So, from what i hsve seen, this bug seems to occur on champions with Abilities that can crit (Yi Q, Yasuo Q), AA buffs(Yi Passive, Jinx Rockets), and AA Resets (Garen Q). Just my observations on the topic. Hopefully it can help.

NightOfLightMay 11, 20161 votes

That would explain why I don't crit when I build triforce on garen

LusokaMay 11, 20168 votes

Ok, you clearly mention what you think of adc currently, but you should probably leave that to the side in these kind of cases. Even if Adc are overpowered, underpowered, it's a bug. Should be fixed regardless. Just muddles your overall discussion on it. I hope it gets fixed though.

BootyShankMay 11, 20161 votes

Yep. I can see that clearly now.

KING ATTILAMay 11, 20166 votes

ADC's are weak? You must be smoking some nice crack.

NORD MASTER KINGMay 11, 20166 votes

You guys realize adcs really are weak as shit? You know there's usually 2 "tanks" in the adcs team carrying the adcs right? Carrying them AND dealing more damage than them.

There was a time when ADCs were more than just assassin/tank food and turret destroyers. Those times are long gone.

GayFluffyUnicornMay 11, 20163 votes

The problem is more that those who play adc can't play adc well. They get kills and think they are the shit but the reason they don't deal dmg is bc they plain suck. Adcs are very strong even strong enough to go toplane. Tanks still deal a good amount of dmg but atm they have to since being "tanky" gives u zero reward. A Cait or lucian with IE and Shiv, RFC, PD just melts through my snowballing nautilus with 200 armor like i'm some mage.

Malicious FuryMay 11, 20165 votes

Nice bug.

http://rs779.pbsrc.com/albums/yy74/T7508338/bug.gif~c200

WylderthanuMay 11, 20163 votes

So didn't he say please don't comment anything that doesn't talk about the bug. And then everyone goes and talks about everything he said not to talk about.

DroogzyMay 11, 20163 votes

This is actually kinda ridiculous.

Jhin UItd JFKMay 11, 20162 votes

guys adcs are a weak class look at all their items and new toys they have that are really good on them theyre so weak buff them!

kappa

DorkunedAurasMay 11, 20161 votes

this isn't a buff, this is a bug fix. No one should be left with potentially crippling bugs intentionally.

Jhin UItd JFKMay 11, 20161 votes

{quoted}

this isn't a buff, this is a bug fix. No one should be left with potentially crippling bugs intentionally.

i realize that. i was mocking the op saying that adcs are weak right now lol

XalerrMay 11, 20162 votes

I had a simalar bug today with Miss Fortune full crit build (100%) and would crit only about 50% of the time. Items were zerker greaves, essence reaver, infinity edge, rapid fire cannon, phantom dancer, vamp cepter.

The A listerMay 11, 20162 votes

Adcs are weak as of 6.9 patch. Qss got nerfed pretty hard, the two most played adcs are lucian and ez by a huge margin(http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.playPercent&order=descend) all with escapes. Just because two range champions Kindred Graves are doing very well dose not mean adc are god tier. The versatility of adc has gone completely down.

BootyShankMay 11, 20161 votes

krazeeightMay 12, 20161 votes

This has nothing to do with the post [slayer-jinx-unamused]

The A listerMay 12, 20161 votes

lol literally the top comment with the most up votes is making fun of the guy that says adc is weak, but of course you are going to agree with him to help your claim [zombie-brand-clap]

Project RivenMay 11, 20161 votes

How about champs that does an auto attack animation, but doesn't do damage?

DUN DUN DUN!!

DorkunedAurasMay 11, 20161 votes

Karthus ?

runedaraMay 11, 20161 votes

Do you think it's the skin? I tried it with firecracker and didn't have a problem.

BootyShankMay 11, 20161 votes

Not 100% sure. I'll have to try it again.

Celeste BenalMay 11, 20161 votes

Initially I was suspecting this might just be a display bug. But as I watched, I noticed that the crit damage numbers were low every single time. Where one bug exists, there are often others.

Non-crits with pow-pow vs Gromp were doing 125 damage. Crits did 236 when they should have been doing 250. That's not double damage. Its about 10% less than double, or 189% of normal damage.

I checked it again vs Blue buff. Pow-pow 139, crits 263, should be 278. Fishbones 152, crits 275, should be 305. That is like a 10% damage reduction just because swapping modes. No, RIot. Fix this!

BootyShankMay 12, 20161 votes

You're spot on.

Jesus is SaviorMay 13, 20161 votes

I just tried to reproduce the Master Yi bug and it is indeed only against monsters. 100% crit would crit 100% of the time against bots and minions.