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Extremely Low LP gain for wins, HIGH LP loss for losses

Dr Kokanus··3 votes·15,549 views

Was Plat 4 before reset, went 7-3 in placements to end up in plat 5. Cool. I play another game, and win +25 LP. Normal LP gain. I win the game after that, and only gain +13 LP. Strange, I think. I lose a game after that for -23 LP, then win 2 more games after that one for +13 and +14.

Why is the system acting like I should be in a lower division when I am 14 wins and 7 losses so far in ranked? Seems like a lot of other people on reddit are having this problem as well.

I should be getting far above 13 and 14 LP per win with my win ratio and how early it is in the season, having only played 21 games so far.

This would be normal LP gain/loss if my MMR were extremely low and I was not meant to be in Plat. However, I went 7-3 in placements and I am 14 wins 7 losses overall now so I don't think that is the case, and I still continue to only gain 13-14 LP per win while losing 23+LP per loss.

Something is wrong with the LP gain here, and I don't think I'll be playing any more league until it's fixed, because as of now 2 wins are equal to 1 loss in terms of LP. Pretty messed up.

14 Comments

legendsunited324 votes

Same. I don't care what their reasoning is, it's fucking stupid, but they're always a fucking joke when a new ranked season starts. They also love to remove my posts talking about this shit but never respond to my questions. Quality company.

CRZephyr3 votes

Your lp gains and losses are tied to your elo you have evaded being dropped down to silver (a place where a lot of plat players end up) but on the flip side you are still playing in games against those plat players who are in silver with your similar elo so the system assumes you are over ranked and adjusts the lp gains and losses accordingly.

Dr Kokanus1 votes

what? how am i meant to be in silver when i went 7/3 in placements, and am now 14/7 in plat? It doesn't add up, every other season I have started out gaining 23-25 lp per win and losing 13-14 lp per loss, exactly the opposite of what is happening now.

I think something is wrong on riot's end, because this is happening to a lot of people. 2 wins of lp should not be equivalent to 1 loss of LP when you have 2x more wins than losses

CRZephyr1 votes

{quoted}

what? how am i meant to be in silver when i went 7/3 in placements, and am now 14/7 in plat? It doesn't add up, every other season I have started out gaining 23-25 lp per win and losing 13-14 lp per loss, exactly the opposite of what is happening now.

I think something is wrong on riot's end, because this is happening to a lot of people. 2 wins of lp should not be equivalent to 1 loss of LP when you have 2x more wins than losses

Im not saying that you're meant to be silver i'm simply saying that you are playing with and against players who are in silver and you are experiencing lp gains and losses accordingly.

Weathered2 votes

Saw another post with the same problem. I'm just going to stay away from ranked for a little while if there's an issue.

Dr Kokanus1 votes

Yeah, I won't play any more ranked until this is fixed. I should not be losing 23+ LP per loss and only gaining 13 LP per win at a 14/7 win ratio, and it does seem like this is happening to a lot of people. There was a thread on reddit about it.

Pancake Online2 votes

I'm having the same, got into plati 3 for placements, my MMR is at plati 1 atm and I'm getting 13 per win and losing around the mid 20's.... this is craaaazy it must be a bug? Surely?

Dr Kokanus1 votes

It has to be some sort of bug because I literally have 2x more wins than losses, 14/7, and am gaining 13 per win while losing 23+ per loss.

Every other season I have started out winning 23+ lp per win, and losing 13-14 lp for losses, the exact opposite of what is happening now.

AbsoIute Dingus1 votes

I think it's because you lucked out in placement... a lot of plat players were placed in low silver in preseason. It's possible you're now playing with people that are higher elo than you, who "belong" in a league or two up, so the system is trying to keep you stagnant while they climb. That's a guess, though, it's possible I have it backwards and you're somehow playing with lower elo players and the system thinks you should fall?

Pavello21 votes

The reason why we're gaining 12-16lp is we finished our placements day 1 and got placed to high so our mmr is f'd

Kiitos Mestari1 votes

Means your elo is inflated. and your skill doesn't match the mmr.

VirgilHeathcliff1 votes

Hey guys, I don't know if you're still experiencing this issue but I think I have something similar. I'm just a silver player, I was placed Silver 4 at the beginning of the season, went up to Silver 2 and everything was normal, it was about +23 lp per win and -18 per loss but then it radically changed to about +17 lp per win and -21 per loss. I fell back to S4, I'm back up to S3 right now but it still hasn't changed in about 2 weeks...

rbosousa1 votes

Same, I'm winning 8LP and loosing 7LP, that's too low...

rbosousa1 votes

i have also won a game and they gave me 7LP and did not win the missions.....

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