Aatrox passive doesnt scale with the passive ad from Steraks Gage

I Love Catgirls·Dec 15, 2017·23 votes·1,496 views

It says on Aatrox's passive that he gains 25% base ad whenever his blood well is active. Meaning if you had 100 ad you would gain 25 base ad whenever its active but, say if you built a steraks gage which increases your base ad by 50%, now your base ad should be at 150 which means that Aatrox passive should give you 12.5+25 more base ad. But that is not the case.

example: you have 70 ad at lvl 1 and your passive gives you +18 base ad whenever active. https://i.imgur.com/EZxHnAB.png

with steraks gage, you would have a total of 105 ad at lvl, which means your passive would give you 26 base ad instead of 18. https://i.imgur.com/78gaV3k.png

But that is not the case in picture 3 where my passive is active at lvl 1 with steraks gage, giving me a whole total of only +18 ad. https://i.imgur.com/WsjBr1T.png

is this a bug or intended?

11 Comments

Votable JesterDec 15, 20175 votes

I'm pretty sure the effects would be additive. That is to say, you get a total of 75% base AD.

I Love CatgirlsDec 15, 20172 votes

The thing is that on the tooltip on Aatrox passive it also increases the amount of ad you would gain once you build steraks but you don't actually gain that ad, which is a bug or a fault on Riot's part. I.e it says +26 on the passive but i didnt take a picture of it, just go in a training game and check yourself.

Votable JesterDec 15, 20171 votes

Probably a tooltip bug. They likely didn't think to calculate "base base ad" (as in base before other base multipliers).

SkorchDec 15, 20173 votes

I BELIEVE its because Steraks scales OFF your base AD. But doesnt flat increase the value of your base AD.

Summer ArosaDec 15, 20172 votes

I think you are confusing what base means. Aatrox at level one base AD is 70. If you have your passive you'll get 25% of your base AD, but the total is no longer "base" AD. It is a modified total. So you'll have a modified AD of 88. 70 base + 18 from passive or 70+(70*.25) .

When you calculate the additional from steraks gage, you still use the base AD of 70. This will give you a modified AD of 123 or 70+(70x.25)+(70x.50).

Hello I am BirdDec 17, 20171 votes

Pretty sure Sterak's is unique in that it's extra AD doesn't add to your modified AD, it adds to your base AD

The tooltip says "UNIQUE: +50% base attack damage."

Summer ArosaDec 18, 20171 votes

My calculation is consistent with what is showing in game, also base AD to my knowledge should not be altered by anything other than a champion's scaling. This could be more of a wording issue on Steraks Gauge. For me I'm reading it as an additional %50 Attack Damage calculated from your base attack damage.

These are the definitions I'm using:

"*Base AD is the portion of attack damage which originates from the champion itself. It is the sum of a constant base value that is individual for every champion plus a growth component which increases as the champion levels up.

*Bonus AD (or modified AD in my example) is the portion of attack damage which originates from runes, abilities, auras and, most importantly, items."

Hello I am BirdDec 18, 20171 votes

I think that you're 100% correct in your definitions, but I think the purpose of Sterak's Gauge was for it to be an exception to that rule.