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Karma focused resolve does not reveal Shaco stealthed

Ekitz··17 votes·1,279 views

NOTICE: I was unable to reproduce what happened again when trying to record it. Maybe I perceived it bad or it is not a consistent bug. Sorry for the inconvenience and I'll open it again if I am able to find any evidence of it happening.

GAMEPLAY bug. Steps to reproduce:

  • Karma uses focused resolve on Shaco revealing him
  • Shaco uses deceive, entering stealth mode and avoidings being revealed

Karma's focused resolve is supposed to reveal stealthed enemies as Caitlyn's ace in the hole. According to LoL wikia page [1] (non-authoritative, I know) this is not the expected behavior.

I will edit the post with a follow up video as soon as I record one.

[1] http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth

Edit #1: I do not think this is intentional: Why focused resolve is then supposed to reveal stealthed enemies if you can only succesfully apply it when they're already stealthed? It should have the same behavior that Caitlyn's Ace in the Hole: Shaco Q doesn't breaks slashes abilites, R does.

Lets raise the issue and wait Riot response.

Edit #2: Commenters (like Maximum Morde and Inquisitor Karma) reports that the same issue hapens with Vayne, Khazix, Shaco, Akali and Leblanc

13 Comments

Auz the Ripper4 votes

Deceive is also a blink so the tether may have been broken

Maximum Morde4 votes

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it used to work, but was broken a year or so ago. I think it was during one of the vision patches where they changed the way different vision types worked. I noticed that it stopped revealing Vayne, Khazix, Shaco, Akali, Leblanc, and others a while back as she used to be one of my go to counterpicks for stealth champs.

It not revealing stealthed champions makes that whole feature pointless since you can't cast it on someone you can't see in the first place as it's a targeted spells, so you wouldn't be able to use it to reveal someone who is stealthed, only to keep them visible while the tether is active, which is how it used to work.

Livin like Riven3 votes

The way it's worded in the tooltip sounds to me like as long as the tether isn't broken, it should grant vision the entire time.

Ekitz1 votes

I think the same way. Lets wait Riot answer (if there is one).

Weathered1 votes

Because that reveals the person on cast, and Shaco's steal happens after. Similar to how challenging smite reveals a champion for 4 seconds, but if cast on Shaco and then he deceives, he is no longer visible. This is intentional.

Ekitz4 votes

Why focused resolve then is supposed to reveal stealthed enemies if you can only succesfully apply it when they're already stealthed? I do not think that it is intentional.

I think that this is intended to work like ace in the hole. Let's wait to Riot reply.

Karbuncle4 votes

Riot doesn't care about Karma.

Also her w doesn't work on Akali when she enters her shroud

Ekitz3 votes

Thanks, mate. Let's open bug requests to raise the issue. I suppose that upvoting would also help.

Zaurok1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Inquisitor Karma,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=AXxxNXn7,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-18T12:55:30.360+0000)

Riot doesn't care about Karma.

Also her w doesn't work on Akali when she enters her shroud

Yeah, it breaks the tether the moment she enters stealth. Very lame. I don't mind not having the tether update (morgana's doesn't) but outright breaking? I lost a potential kill because of that so many times.

Sugar Momma1 votes

I've had over 600 karma games. I've experienced this issue, but I think after many test runs, it's the fact it gives vision DURING the channel, but once it roots, you have no vision. It's sorta silly tbh.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

If the champion breaks the chain by moving away, the stealth reveal ends. Shaco probably broke the chain by creating distance with Q, breaking the stealth reveal.

ValentineVxx1 votes

Using her this week on a khazik before he turned invisible made the beam invisible but i think i managed to root him anyways, not really sure tho.

Evewynn1 votes

"Working as intended"

-Shaco mains

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