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[GAMEPLAY] Shaco blink (Decieve) invisibilty true sight bug

12dennan12··1 votes·697 views

Had a weird bug occur last game when facing Shaco while playing as morgana. His blink + invis abilty (decieve) made him immune to true sight both from morgana ult and from the ignite while using them before he blinked away. I have looked on the wiki and ingame, and nowhere does it say that his abilities cause him to be immune to true sight while invisible.

Gamemode was all for one.

Now you might say that he jumped out of my ult which caused it to lose the true sight over him, but that isn't the case here, as he still was unable to be seen even with ignite on him on several occasions, and I still heard the sounds that he got stunned by the ult and he was seen being stunned after his invis went out from the ult.

I don't know what caused this bug to appear this game as i've had no problem with true sight on shaco in other gamemodes. I know videos and screenshots help, but I wasn't fast enough to capture those moments.

Edited: Edit: I have watched the replay and saw atleast 1 occasion where shaco should've been revealed but didn't get revealed by morg ult. Other times I saw the shaco did manage to flash while being invisible without me noticing it during the game, but it was noticeable during the replay.

In conclusion I think I overreacted on the magnitude of this problem, as it didn't happen as often as I thought. I think the truesight bug happened once in the game when ulting both shaco and his clone at the same time, and then the real shaco jumped away with his ability (without using flash).

15 Comments

TempName748141 votes

ignite does not give true sight, morgana r should, as long as it's tethered (if he walks out of range or the r ends, the true sight is gone)

wanna post a video clip?

Slythion1 votes

While ignite doesn't give true sight, it should still cause the "shimmer" effect from damaging a stealthed unit right? I wonder if OP could clarify whether or not they could even see the shimmer effect on Shaco from ignite.

12dennan121 votes

Didn't notice it from ignite that game, but didn't put much focus on it, but I saw the shimmer from other damage sources, such as the morgana puddle ablility and meteor mastery.

12dennan121 votes

Sadly I don't have a video clip, yet. Gonna check the replay later tomorrow as I'm to tired now, see if i can see the bug in that.

And thanks for the correct info on ignite, that helps =).

ReshiKillim1 votes

Morgana has a history of causing Shaco to bug out in the weirdest ways, so I'm not surprised.

12dennan121 votes

Gonna look at the replay tomorrow, see if I can find the moment where it happened, I was tired during this specific game so that might have affected my senses. The weird thing is when I stod right on top of the shaco/shacos and he/they blinked away (without them using flash) they shouldn't have been able to move out of the morgana ult circle as it has a much bigger range than his blink ability.

Edit: I have watched the replay and saw atleast 1 occasion where shaco should've been revealed but didn't get revealed by morg ult. Other times I saw the shaco did manage to flash while being invisible without me noticing it during the game, but it was noticeable during the replay.

In conclusion I think I overreacted on the magnitude of this problem, as it didn't happen as often as I thought. I think the truesight bug happened once in the game when ulting both shaco and his clone at the same time, and then the real shaco jumped away with his ability (without using flash).

Brutalitops011 votes

True sight doesn't reveal invisibility. Only turrets do.

AidanWR1 votes

You know what the passive on turrets is called? True sight. It reveals stealth and camouflage and all tether, such as Morgana's ult, grant true sight of the target.

Brutalitops011 votes

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You know what the passive on turrets is called? True sight. It reveals stealth and camouflage and all tether, such as Morgana's ult, grant true sight of the target.

Morgana ult hasn't revealed Invisibility in any form since the mechanic was reworked, not just Shaco's Invisibility.

AidanWR1 votes

Oh really now? "Latches chains of energy onto nearby enemy champions, dealing initial damage to them and slowing their Movement Speed, and then echoing the pain a few seconds later and stunning them if they remain close to Morgana.

Dark chains latch onto nearby enemy Champions dealing 150/225/300 (+70% Ability Power) magic damage and slowing them by 20% for 3 seconds, granting True Sight. After 3 seconds, they are dealt an additional 150/225/300 (+70% Ability Power) magic damage and are stunned for 1.5 seconds.Enemy Champions can break the chains by moving away from Morgana."

Keywords, True Sight https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dwHPv2A1MMpzCGZNo_bMHVn2kolkkel8/view?usp=sharing

Brutalitops011 votes

{quoted}

Oh really now? "Latches chains of energy onto nearby enemy champions, dealing initial damage to them and slowing their Movement Speed, and then echoing the pain a few seconds later and stunning them if they remain close to Morgana.

Dark chains latch onto nearby enemy Champions dealing 150/225/300 (+70% Ability Power) magic damage and slowing them by 20% for 3 seconds, granting True Sight. After 3 seconds, they are dealt an additional 150/225/300 (+70% Ability Power) magic damage and are stunned for 1.5 seconds.Enemy Champions can break the chains by moving away from Morgana."

Keywords, True Sight https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dwHPv2A1MMpzCGZNo_bMHVn2kolkkel8/view?usp=sharing

Old terminology of true sight. Never got updated after the stealth rework. Not even true sight reveals Invisible enemy champions, hence why control wards don't. ONLY turret-sourced true sight reveals Invisible enemies.

AidanWR1 votes

That terminology was ADDED to all the abilities that give True Sight when they changed stealth mechanics. Don't believe me? Look at Cait's abilities, both Yordle Snap Trap and Ace in the Hole say that they grant True Sight of the target. The fact is, Morgana's ult used to not give True Sight, so why would they randomly decide to add it to the description if it didn't?

Brutalitops011 votes

{quoted}

That terminology was ADDED to all the abilities that give True Sight when they changed stealth mechanics. Don't believe me? Look at Cait's abilities, both Yordle Snap Trap and Ace in the Hole say that they grant True Sight of the target. The fact is, Morgana's ult used to not give True Sight, so why would they randomly decide to add it to the description if it didn't?

And neither Ace in the Hole or Yordle Snap Trap reveal invisible targets, either. By the set definition of Invisibility, only turrets can reveal Invisible players. Any form of True Sight reveals Camouflage (Twitch, Evelynn, and Rengar stealth), but NONE of them, other than turrets, reveal Invisibility.

AidanWR1 votes

As a Caitlyn main, I can tell you with 100% certainty, that both Yordle Snap Trap and Ace in the Hole reveal stealth targets. Instead of arguing with me without facts, why don't you test it out with a friend?

Brutalitops011 votes

{quoted}

As a Caitlyn main, I can tell you with 100% certainty, that both Yordle Snap Trap and Ace in the Hole reveal stealth targets. Instead of arguing with me without facts, why don't you test it out with a friend?

Because I have no friends.

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