Excessive Gameplay Bugs STILL Affecting Azir

Wallaboom·Nov 7, 2014·26 votes·2,388 views

I was incredibly hopeful for this champion. Occasionally a relatively smooth game will happen and you just dominate, but oftentimes you finish at the defeat screen thinking, "if that q would have just registered, if that auto would have done damage, maybe it would have gone another way?"

I stopped after 2 incredibly frustrating games prior to 4.19. I was under the impression this patch would ninja fix several remaining issues. I was sadly mistaken. About a dozen games and mortified that this champion was released in such a poor state. I love the mechanics- but the implementation has me terrified that Kalista will have the same fate of game breaking bugs! Will her ult go off without porting people to her location? Will she get permanent passive leaps after some interaction? Or will her passive break and she becomes an immobile champion? Either way I'm expecting some aggravating loses on either side of that coin!

This is a list of issues I still see on a game to game basis. Please post any issues you may have seen that I didn't have the pleasure of experiencing.

**So list of issues still plaguing Azir **( If I play more games I'll try to record, just not sure I can handle the frustration- several of these are being re-reported here in the forums anyway)

Ult no longer functioning: rather than multibounces it moves directly through enemies dealing no damage nor moving them. Just a vanity effect that costs 100 mana and baits me to my death.
Q is still not responsive- either the timer is not appropriately starting making me believe its off cooldown, or the ability is taking 1-3 casts before initiating at times. Furthermore there is occasionally a delay after smartcasting before the soldier moves! Low level poke is extremely important- mana is limited and this decides who pushes the other out of lane first! I use smart casting and when the ability is cast I should expect it to hit, and 1-2 autos- all I'm left with is abilities on cooldown and 100 less mana then I started with,
His soldiers autos are still completing full animations with 0 damage. Just a wiff and a lane opponent smiling because your poke did nothing or you missed the last hits on minions. This has occurred both after spawning them with W and after moving them with Q, as well as after jumping to one with E!
His E. His poor poor E. Delays in cast- inability to honestly decide which one to jump to. I have smart casting and cast it with cursor over intended target and I go left instead of right!
Pierce attack in the wrong direction! Happens incessantly when trying to harass opponent or chase behind their minion line. W between ranged and melee minions and Q forward onto enemy champion. Damage from Q is dealt with champion still within range for at least 2 autos from soldier. While highlighting enemy champion to attack the piercing AA's from soldier are directed 180* in the wrong direction back at the minions behind.

PLEASE POST ISSUES WITH AZIR HERE- LETS FIX THIS CHAMPION BEFORE HE GETS A REWORK!

21 Comments

Evil JesterNov 7, 20149 votes

Azire as it is is just unplayable. I hesitated buying him at first because I heard about the bugs. then I saw some patches for him and thought maybe he was better now, riot is usually pretty good about bug fixes. so I bought him and WOW. I've experienced all the above with him and the some. The most annoying though it his ult. I was VS an annie and I used it, didn't use it ON her just used it. annie literally walked right through the wall and dropped her bear and kill me. same with that E dash that doesnt work half the time, due to delay or just not at all. Ive died so much because I cant escape with it. After this purchase, Im beginning to question the balance and reliability of Riots creation process. I thought these chaps go through testing before there released. I could understand missing a bug or 2 before release but the ones written above were obvious from the first game after purchase.

KrowdKlownNov 7, 20145 votes

SERIOUSLY. I had high hopes for when they said they were going to fix his ult but I'd MUCH prefer having a double bounce back than no bounce at all which is exactly what has been happening. When I'm trying to defend turret against a 3 man dive, I'd really like to have my ult to keep some people away but I can't rely on it anymore and because of that, my games have been constantly a huge headache. I want to play Azir because I love his kit but this is getting way out of hand. Riot, do you even care?

WallaboomNov 7, 20144 votes

The issue I'm having is why allow a ult breaking bug to continue- and until this point without even confirmation from Riot that they are working on it. I am publicizing this because I really like the champion and I feel like after 4.18 when 'all the fixes were on the notes' they wiped their hands of those issues when indeed they have continued- and the last bug fix created an even more blatant bug.

The First LawNov 8, 20145 votes

Going to bump this because I agree whole heartily. I wish riot would at least comment saying they are aware and are fixing the bugs. Seeing how they released the last patch without fixing anything Im worried though.

WeGNov 7, 20144 votes

I've been playing a lot of Azir over the past 2 days since I hit gold and quit playing ranked til end of season, and I'm 9-1 so far. The two bugs I notice, maybe once or twice a game is the soldiers attack "whiffing" i.e. not doing any damage. This sucks, but it isn't gamebreaking. The ult bug is very frusturating, but it's also well documented and I'm sure will be fixed soon.

TapdatgoatNov 7, 20143 votes

Pretty sure people are more upset with the fact that they release a champion which even after two patches with "bugfixes" still probably has close to a dozen bugs and not only that, but he gets MORE bugs after bugfixes. And after all this, in three days they haven't even acknowledged it.

WeGNov 7, 20143 votes

I'm scared for when they fix everything.. I'm having no trouble carrying games with him in the current state.. Nerfs incoming with bugfixes, calling it now.

TapdatgoatNov 7, 20141 votes

Already been nerfed with -0.1 AP ratio on W! woop woop. But yeah I do expect him to get nerfed as well unless there's some drastic changes when people learn to play against him better.

WallaboomNov 7, 20141 votes

I definitely see this coming- a smooth game with ults casting and everything landing you feel like a god.

My issue is laning phase. If you can survive doing decent without feeding you can carry regardless of a few QOL bugs (albeit I've had a few irritating clutch plays go awry: whiffs on ADC/mids). Now with the ult acting up it became more evident in the late game tho!

Right now the bugs are essentially keeping his win/adoption rate relatively low. I suspect his ratios take a hit after his mechanics get fleshed out better.

WallaboomNov 7, 20141 votes

Yes, it's not game-breaking. Potential for game-changing- yes. Please tell me your lane opponent has never gotten the kill on you with <50hp remaining themselves? Normally I'm hitting the keyboard yelling 'idiot' at myself. With Azir I'm thinking... had 'x' done what the tooltip said it should... 150 damage from a whiff is more influential than you admit. Or when you are forced to back and you are 60g short from a ward?

Is it as bad as game breaking bugs like Darius hearth pulling people to nexus? Of course not! I'm not angry, just trying to keep light on the issue to make sure it doesn't make it months before real changes come.

VelasanNov 7, 20143 votes

I've been posting in the other azir bug threads because I'm having all of these problems because I main azir so I have a lot of games with him. The ult problem is happening all the time, and so is the soldiers not doing any damage or delaying.

The others I see less often, although I've had two E dashes not work correctly (had cursor pointing the entire other direction on another soldier and he goes the wrong way).

I hope they fix all these issues soon, or just revert him to the way he was which at least seemed to be working better than it is now. I'm ok with double bouncing walls and the ability to occasionally pin someone if I can catch them correctly against an obstacle (not sure why that was considered a big issue... was only bad for melee enemies and that's kind of the point of the ult in the first place and took perfect positioning).

For quality of life fixes, it really needs to be set so that when a soldier is up unless you specifically click on a single target it ALWAYS needs to prioritize the soldiers attacks vs Azir switching to his own AA. I can't tell you how many times I put up a soldier, press to attack, and he starts autoing a minion nearby instead of attacking via the soldier only two steps away.

Thank you, from an Azir main.

WallaboomNov 7, 20141 votes

Yep, my bro just said to roll other champs for the time being- but I like to focus on one champ at a time and master mechanics. When you land the perfect Ori combo or nail a whole enemy team with a W-E-R combo on viktor+yasuo- that's what keeps me playing this game.

UlltimaNov 7, 20143 votes

Honestly. I was just beginning to notice some of these. My friend who doesn't play very much, mains his Azir. And when you play support/are on skype, you see some weird stuff/hear some strange insults.

One of the ones he complains the most about is I will be on my way to gank his lane and he will use his Ult to pin them and basically guarantee a kill. Except it will completely miss, deal no damage, or have champions straight up walk through it like it isn't there.

Very frustrating. Not just to Azir players, but to those who play with those Azir players.

WallaboomNov 7, 20141 votes

Haha, my friends and I team builder a ton- and I got a lot of "i thought you were going to..." until my buddy tried him top lane for kicks and experienced a few himself!

whizzingfireNov 7, 20142 votes

Just had a game with Azir where I ulted and it dealt damage to an enemy Udyr, but it didn't knock him backwards. I have a friend with in-game video of this moment. I love playing this champ mid, but the bugs get extremely frustrating in game especially if it causes you to die.

AbodyHUN666Nov 8, 20142 votes

They really need to fix him, he would be so good in the good hands, but the good hands won't work with a broken tool.

Quality BroccoliNov 9, 20142 votes

going to bump this cause it is much better organized then the one i made

OrangesilkNov 9, 20142 votes

Instead of bugfixes on the PBE, there's nerfs for Azir incoming, brace yourselves.

FivespotNov 8, 20141 votes

Obligatory second.... I played this champ to exhaustion during hexakill with positive results and brought it to Ranked matches expecting similar results after the patch. I've been baited by my own Ult several times before figuring things out and barely scraping by or outright losing matches because I was depending on the ult to save myself and others only to have the enemy pass through unharmed or hindered for the kill. Of course I take responsibility for putting myself in bad positions for not noticing sooner.

Urdnot EntarNov 8, 20141 votes

Riot fixes things at a snail's pace, if they ever do. Chances are you may see fixes for these in a year and a half or so.

Not sure why more people haven't picked up on this pattern yet.

tistNov 8, 20141 votes

Biggest issues I have noticed is the ult doing no damage or pushing people. Sometimes his soldiers will not attack or do no damage after using a Q as well.